Was driving through Wysox, Pa for work yesterday, went by a dealer selling some red compacts (didn"t bother to look to see what brand for two reasons: 1)The only compact I"ll own is Orange, and 2)not looking for another compact,) but I noticed a pretty straight old IH M out front with a sign that said "450" for the price. Well I slammed on the brakes, jumped out and saw the "3" kinda hanging" off the side which made it $3450!!!! Started laughing, continued to do so as the guy cam out and I climbed back in the truck...didn"t have the heart to tell him I just got one in just about the same condition from just a quick look over ("cept my tires aren"t as good) for exactly $3350 less! LOL I know that"s really one extreme to the other but...$3450???? haha
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Owen Aaland
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Lots of room for negotiation in that price.
jennifer408
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everyone around here is very proud of their stuff. i ain't seen any reasonable cl adds since january.
Goose
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I bought an H on a consignment auction in February for $450. Found out it has a serious growl in the transmission. Haven't figured out yet what I'm going to do with it.
But-indications are the engine is a whole lot better than in the H I already have, so I at least got my money's worth in parts if nothing else.
There's an auction next week that has an Allis D19 gasser on it. I'm going to have to go to that since I have a D19 diesel.
But-indications are the engine is a whole lot better than in the H I already have, so I at least got my money's worth in parts if nothing else.
There's an auction next week that has an Allis D19 gasser on it. I'm going to have to go to that since I have a D19 diesel.
Tom in TN
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Within shouting distance of where I live in the southern part of Middle Tennessee, there are almost no Farmalls, Cases, Olivers, Allis Chalmers, etc. Almost everything is John Deere, Kubota, or old Fords.
I need to buy another tractor, but the present owners are not at all interested in selling to me at the prices I can afford. The present owners value them very highly.
Tom in TN
I need to buy another tractor, but the present owners are not at all interested in selling to me at the prices I can afford. The present owners value them very highly.
Tom in TN
Goose
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That's what I'm thinking. The engine in the one I just bought has far better oil pressure than the one I already had. I'll have to compare compression between the two.
I'd just split them both and swap front halves, but the one I just bought is a 1941 and the one I already owned is a 1952. Plus the one I already owned has been in the family for 50 years and if I restore it I'd like to keep it as original as possible.
I'd just split them both and swap front halves, but the one I just bought is a 1941 and the one I already owned is a 1952. Plus the one I already owned has been in the family for 50 years and if I restore it I'd like to keep it as original as possible.
Anonymous-0
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Tom,don't know what you might like , but here in my part of middle Pa there has been some cheap decent tractors sold. Check out Nixon auction{google].Then auction results, Darrow sale. About 50 pc's
redforlife
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Ya know, 3,450 might sound high and probly is. A run of the mill M (a good one with good tires) is probly in the 1500 to 2500 dollar range. The guy might actually get it sold for an over price. For what its worth, I seen a 400 sell at auction recently for 5,200. It was a nice one. Well cared for and always sheded. But 5,200? Seemed a little high to me.
Tom in TN
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acrcpa,
Thanks for the tip. I've tried googling Nixon and Nixon Auction without any luck. The only Nixon Auction my google finds is in Kansas.
Do you have any other details that I could add to my search parameters to find the right auction house?
Thanks again,
Tom in TN
Thanks for the tip. I've tried googling Nixon and Nixon Auction without any luck. The only Nixon Auction my google finds is in Kansas.
Do you have any other details that I could add to my search parameters to find the right auction house?
Thanks again,
Tom in TN
Anonymous-0
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Tom, that is the Nixon from Ks. They came to Pa for the sale. Click on sold prics's Then the William Darrow sale. The one's that sold low were the some of the Farmalls Oliver Case and MM. Not bad for decent running tractors that you could drive on your trailer and take home. Some of the rare stuff got a little price'y. Enjoy.
There have been a couple dealers around me that had ridiculous prices on run of the mill tractors. I don't recall the specifics, but it seems one was a Case 30 series, maybe a 730, for $6500.00. Right out of the field with fair tires, torn seat, fluids leaking, one front flat. Another dealer had an AC, a 170 or 175 maybe, beat to death and he wanted somewhere around $7K. I've seen a lot of $1k-1.5K tractors going for over $3, and sitting forever.
All I can figure is they paid too much and have to try to get that out of them because no one seems willing to dicker.
All I can figure is they paid too much and have to try to get that out of them because no one seems willing to dicker.
I know some local new tractor dealers that do it on purpose.
They'll have (for example) a mid 70's thousand series Ford on the lot that's worth probably $3000-3500.
They will price it at least $7k.
That Ford will bring people in, but when the buyer hears the price, that Brand New similar size orange/red/blue tractor sitting next to it at $15k at 0%.....starts looking really good.....
And, They won't haggle much on the Ford, because that's not the point. They aren't really trying to sell it anyway. It's just to get us old tractor guys onto the lot.
Then after a few months they wholesale the Ford to a small dealer who will actually sell it at a fair price.
They'll have (for example) a mid 70's thousand series Ford on the lot that's worth probably $3000-3500.
They will price it at least $7k.
That Ford will bring people in, but when the buyer hears the price, that Brand New similar size orange/red/blue tractor sitting next to it at $15k at 0%.....starts looking really good.....
And, They won't haggle much on the Ford, because that's not the point. They aren't really trying to sell it anyway. It's just to get us old tractor guys onto the lot.
Then after a few months they wholesale the Ford to a small dealer who will actually sell it at a fair price.
Brokenwrench
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I think there is something to what you are saying. 4 years ago I tried dealing with a bigger dealership in our area. They had a fair shape, 6500hr 5450 CIH on their lot. The price they shot me seemed way high compared to what similar tractors were going for. When I went home I looked on their site and found it listed on there for a grand more than they had told me.
I ended up buying a nicer shape MX135 for less money. I would check in every once in a while on their site for fun and that tractor stayed on there for 3 yrs. Those 5450s have a great reputation, are popular in this area, and I understand the price bracket they are in. This one was for some reason priced not to sell.
So, I think you are right even with the more modern stuff. Get a guy in wanting it, then sell him on the fact that the jump to a new one isn"t that bad... BW
I ended up buying a nicer shape MX135 for less money. I would check in every once in a while on their site for fun and that tractor stayed on there for 3 yrs. Those 5450s have a great reputation, are popular in this area, and I understand the price bracket they are in. This one was for some reason priced not to sell.
So, I think you are right even with the more modern stuff. Get a guy in wanting it, then sell him on the fact that the jump to a new one isn"t that bad... BW
Where are these small dealers who sell for a fair price?
The only thing I ever see big dealers do is have an annual clearance auction where they sell all their junk for whatever it brings. If you see something you want, you wait for the auction.
Around here the small dealers are just as nuts as the big dealers. The only difference is that the same tractor will sit on the small dealer lot for a decade. Their idea of cutting you a deal is to knock $50 off the price. The small dealers don't have anything new to sell, so all they're out to do is make one big score.
The only thing I ever see big dealers do is have an annual clearance auction where they sell all their junk for whatever it brings. If you see something you want, you wait for the auction.
Around here the small dealers are just as nuts as the big dealers. The only difference is that the same tractor will sit on the small dealer lot for a decade. Their idea of cutting you a deal is to knock $50 off the price. The small dealers don't have anything new to sell, so all they're out to do is make one big score.
redforlife
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I hear ya. I worked at a small ford dealer (not in business now) that also had a used car lot for the trade ins. This is what the owner would do. He would price the vehicles considerably high. Would not hardly budge a dime on the price to speak of. His angle was, he would offer you more than what your vehicle was worth for your trade in. Alot of people would pass on the deal, then shop around only to find out that nobody else would offer them as much for their trade in. Supprizingly, alot of people would be back in a week or 2 to go ahead and make the trade. Once in awhile someone would just buy an overpriced one outright because it was just what they were looking for. Alot of money made on those deals. And yes, alot of vehicles set on the lot for along time. Extra money was made when they did move though.
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