New Holland or Massey Ferguson?

daverh · Apr 30, 2014

Hey Guys,
I am going to buy either a NH Workmaster35 or a MF 1529 (28hp). Light chores will be done for the most part...firewood, moving stone, plowing drive. Any suggestions concerning which might be the better choice?
Regards,
daverh

W_B · Apr 30, 2014

Have you already ruled out brands like LS, Mahindra, Kioti, etc.? Might check them too, seems to be better value in some of them.

daverh · Apr 30, 2014

I read you loud and clear on the value concept. It's just that "okay" is carried by the dealers within easy reach, so I'm trying to get a handle on which tractor is okay-er.

colekicker · Apr 30, 2014

You can get a good deal if you have horses with
Massey. got to www.equinesavings.com

daverh · Apr 30, 2014

(quoted from post at 10:57:33 04/30/14) You can get a good deal if you have horses with
Massey. got to www.equinesavings.com

Thanks, but our girls will never see The Kentucky Derby

[/img]We're going to buy one of the tractors this afternoon.

Regards,
Dave

Stan - Florida · Apr 30, 2014

I'd be leery about an LS - I think they were designed for short people with small feet.

Stan

daverh · Apr 30, 2014

I have not seen an LS around here, Upstate NY. I think I'm leaning toward the MF.
Dave

Chip812 · Apr 30, 2014

If it were me, I would probably go with Massey Ferguson 2605 or 2615. Just a little bigger than what you said, but I think the excess horsepower would be more useful than you realize. But, my opinion. And worth every cent you paid for it.

Chuck (CA) · Apr 30, 2014

I have NH T1510, 30hp and suits me well. It has a loader and a hydrostatic transmission. If you get a loader, the hydrostatic is so nice when you're loading and unloading a lot. Just step on the front of the pedal to go forward and the back of the pedal to go back; hands free and no clutch. Like has been said before, get one with good dealer support.

daverh · Apr 30, 2014

(quoted from post at 11:23:37 04/30/14) If it were me, I would probably go with Massey Ferguson 2605 or 2615. Just a little bigger than what you said, but I think the excess horsepower would be more useful than you realize. But, my opinion. And worth every cent you paid for it.

Thanks Chip812. Value is not always measured in dollars, but sense.

daverh · Apr 30, 2014

(quoted from post at 11:25:09 04/30/14) I have NH T1510, 30hp and suits me well. It has a loader and a hydrostatic transmission. If you get a loader, the hydrostatic is so nice when you're loading and unloading a lot. Just step on the front of the pedal to go forward and the back of the pedal to go back; hands free and no clutch. Like has been said before, get one with good dealer support.

Thanks Chuck. The thing that the Workmaster (new) has that the MF(used 113hrs) does not is a 5yr powertrain warranty.

Wile E · Apr 30, 2014

That workmaster is $24 new I think that MF 1528 is probably $10k less. Tell us what you bought and how much it was and what it has.

daverh · Apr 30, 2014

Will do Mr. Wile E.

The offer so far has the MF at $3100 less. All we're getting is a bucket for now. If the MF were another G lower, it would be done already. Will let you know in a couple of hours.

Mike M · Apr 30, 2014

I guess as long as you are comparing similar
machines( sometimes hard to do with all the
overlapping models made today )then it boils down to
if you prefer blue or red ?
If you have a good dealer near by both NH and MF
build good units for the most part and have been
doing it for a long time.

daverh · Apr 30, 2014

Well, Mike, now I'm hearing that the Workmaster, being an economy class tractor, has a weaker tranny than the Boomer series. The Massey is not in the economy class, so I'm still leaning toward red. And guess what? Massey came down that "G" I mentioned earlier, so it's pretty much a done deal---I think...

55a · Apr 30, 2014

MF"s are good tractors. A friend of mine has a MF 1240
compact and it is a nice tractor. But is this part of the country
(east TN) the saying is "AGCO is not your friend"
Parts are pricey and availability can be a problem

daverh · Apr 30, 2014

We went with the 2012 Massey Ferguson 1529 113hrs
$14k

Production:
Distributor: Massey Ferguson
Manufacturer: Iseki
Factory: Matsuyama, Japan

Massey Ferguson 1529 Engine: 1.5L 3-cyl diesel
3-Point Hitch:
Rear Type: I
Rear lift (at ends): 2,425 lbs [1099 kg]
Capacity: Fuel: 8.3 gal [31.4 L]

Power Take-off (PTO):
Rear PTO: independent
Rear RPMs: 540
Mid RPMs: 2000

Dimensions & Tires:
Wheelbase: 66.7 inches [169 cm]
Weight: 2,579 lbs [1169 kg]
full dimensions and tires ...

front-end loader
Power:
Engine: 28.4 hp [21.2 kW]
PTO (claimed): 23.2 hp [17.3 kW]

Mechanical:
Chassis: 4x4 MFWD 4WD
Brakes: wet disc
Cab: platform with folding ROPS

Hydraulics:
Type: open center
Valves: 1 or 2
Pump flow: 7.4 gpm [28.0 lpm]
Total flow: 10.8 gpm [40.9 lpm]
Steering flow: 3.4 gpm [12.9 lpm]

Electrical:
Charging system: alternator
Charging amps: 40

Loader type: Massey Ferguson L100
Height (to pin): 98.6 inches [250 cm]
Dump angle: 32.5
Rollback angle: 14.5
Breakout force (bucket): 1,401 lbs [635 kg]
Lift to full height (at pin): 1,282 lbs [581 kg]
Lift to full height (at 500mm): 876 lbs [397 kg]
Bucket width: 60 inches [152 cm]

Wile E · Apr 30, 2014

$14k for that Massey F is a good price, with loader too. You would have paid $24 or more for the NH workmaster, the workmaster is a 1.9 liter engine, but.......ten thousand bux is ten thousand bux.

rrlund · Apr 30, 2014

Don't discourage him. I own stock in the company. lol

Chuck (CA) · Apr 30, 2014

Dave, I would double check the warranty. I believe that's if it's under 240 hours, Manufacturer's warranty should still apply. When I bought mine, it was a lease return with just over 200 hours and I got full warranty.

oldtanker · Apr 30, 2014

I just hope your AGCO dealer is good. The one here isn't.

Rick

2 Old 2 care · May 1, 2014

Parts are "pricey" on EVERYTHING....I've got Massey's AND Ford/NH....NH parts are flat RIDICULOUS....MAkes AGCO parts look cheap by comparison.

GRAPE-DRANK · May 1, 2014

(quoted from post at 10:36:08 04/30/14)
Have you already ruled out brands like LS, Mahindra, Kioti, etc.? Might check them too, seems to be better value in some of them.

+1 for Kioti

I sat in a work master 35, very uncomfortable. I love the Workmaster/Farmall A 45, but the new holland style you're looking at is my least favorite. Given the choice though I guess I'd go Massey.

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