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How many of you guys are loyal to a color or brand. Persona I
like all colors but you are which are you loyal to?
 
I am partial to Farmall and Case. I like others too, just not Green! never understood why they are so much more expensive! You can get 2 or 3 of the others for the price of 1 Green. Well, I just probably opened up a huge can of worms, but that's my 2 cents worth.
 
had fords and a massey ferguson, all great tractors. currently have a kubota grand L3240. great tractor also.
 
I grew up around Oliver. When I really got going on my own White was in deep trouble and dealers were dropping like flies. We had four Deere dealers around here,two were excellent dealers,so I went all Deere. After Mother Deere "positioned herself for the future" and closed all the dealers,then made it real clear that they had no interest in serving anybody but BTO's and weekend "lawn and leisure" types,I found an old Agco/White dealer that survived all the upheaval and got rid of everything Deere I ever had. I have 9 Olivers and a White now. All because of the dealer.

If I was a younger man and somebody opened a dealership closer to me,I'd switch to that brand no matter what it was just for the convenience. I'm not getting any younger though and I don't see a chance that any new dealer will open up close to home.
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I've got no interest in getting in to that can of worms either,but they seem to be showing some weakness around here. You can click the link and see some results yourself.
I was at that auction a few weeks ago where there was as nice a 4430 as you'll ever see,had 6660 hours,sold for the same as a 1570 Case.
Just click on price results.
Sykora Auctions
 
I grew up around the Deere's mostly the 2 cyls. so that's what one usually tends to stick with.

I do agree with you that the Deere dealers today are nothing like what I grew up with and I also don't think the tractors now are holding up anywhere near as well either. At least the smaller stuff I deal with.

You sound kind of like my friends from school who were diehard Oliver and we used to kid each other all the time. Well when the local White dealer closed up and bought the John Deere dealer ( Shearer equip in Wooster Ohio )then I started seeing John Deere's show up at their place and Then I could kid them even more ! LOL.
 
Mine are all IH. I guess it has a lot to do with my Dad liking them the best even though we owned what ever we could afford. If I had lots of money I would probably have some others but since I haven't bought all the IH tractors I'd like I can't spend the money on another color.
 
NOT to start a brand war, but if anything you own was made past about 1985, there could be loyalty only to ONE brand, which has not been taken over in 177 years.

For example, there's not much left of Case or IH or Ford or McCormick in CIH or CNH!
 
I'm partial to the older green because that's what I grew up with. Did most of my farming with a red tractor because at the time I bought it I could get a red one cheaper than green with the trade in I had and the IH dealer was closer. I REALLY wanted a green one but money talks.

Today my major farm equipment that makes a living for me is green only because of the dealer. For putzing around the yard I use a red, flambeu and one that's the other green. The ones I grew up with, the two bangers sit in the shed most of the time. Jim
 
I like all kinds of tractors, for all different reasons! I have two or three of each, and that is the way I like it!!

Bryce



*cough* Farmalls are the best.
 
Growing up dad had a Ford 345, IH 1468, then on to a IH 544, then Ford 6610. Now everything he has are Ford 6610, 7710, 2600, 4000.

My tractors were always Farmall until this year. I still have them A (sold), C, H (sold), M, SM, 350 LP, 450 LP, 460.
This year I added a MM UB and a Oliver 77 diesel.
 
We had nothing but Massey Ferguson around our part of the country even though the ford dealer was only about 3 miles away.....My family actually had a David brown all through the 50s, but my Dad hated it. So after his older brother married and he got enough money gathered up he bought his first Massey 65 and it has been wall to wall Massey Fergusons here since.....Over the years since 1964 we have owned 38 new Masseys and many secondhand machines. I must say they have been very reliable hard working machines......I was at the Ford dealers place when I was about 20....another customer at the counter said to the owner"You'll have to get Sam fitted out with a blue tractor!" The owner retorted...." No blue blood in his veins....he bleeds bright red!"............Sam
 
Whatever nobody else wants. Can't afford the special editions, or fancy. I have two Allis Chalmers WD's (not 45's) and a bunch of snap-coupler equipment, because nobody else wants it, and it was dirt cheap when I got it.

In addition, I don't use the snap-couplers, I use the older pin hitch and bolt everything on. Can't trust the "snap" to stay snapped in the old AC equipment.
 
Oh yea! We had those brand wars constantly. To the point that we would count tractors if there were even two of us in the same car going somewhere.
 
I like just about any good working dependable
tractor, but I REALLY like the green one"s
trimmed with yellow...
 
My father was kinda funny in his brand loyalty. He bought and Oliver 88 in 1954 and became a diehard Oliver tractor guy. When it came to balers, it was NH or nothing. Windrowers was Heston or nothing, manure spreaders was NI or nothing.

I'm a bit more pragmatic about it, although at this moment we own mostly Olivers.
 

New at the dealership the prices are on par.
It's not that the used Deere is expensive. In the comparison, it's the brand X that has lost more of it's retained value.
 
I'm loyal to the oliver/cockshutt/MM and whites, but will say I do like a few other models of other brands, d19 or 220 allis, 1150 Massey, 8600, 9000 and 9600 ford, case 1470tk 1030 and others but that's a few
 
I have several old IHC's. Lean towards those for the era of the letter series and before. Have a massey ferguson from the 70's. Its an OK tractor to drive but to work on it, I swear I'll never own another one when it comes to that. New tractors, I really don't have a preferance. I do not like the older John Deere's because of the hand clutch. I refuse to deal with a hand clutch. Especially if you got other hand controls to deal with on your equipment. My 2 cents.
 
I have NO brand loyalty. I collect and use antique tractors. I enjoy all of them. If you can't find the good in each machine just take your blinders off....

Stumpy
 
Those were mine in the background. I don't HATE Deere tractors or equipment. I got the message when Deere "positioned themselves for the future" though. It's only those who worship the brand like a religion who can't accept reality. The new Deere is there to serve two types of customers and they've pretty much come right out and told me so. The super stores have no interest in keeping older equipment going. I accept that. Not many can. Would I like to still be running Deere tractors and equipment and getting good service from a local dealer? You bet your backside I would,but I accept Deere's business decision.
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Old or new? Old, am color blind. New, want American made. I'm not much of a globalist with my money. I want to see my family, friends, and neighbors working. Call me what you want, but screw the global economy and anyone that thinks I'm wrong.

Mark
 
I'm with you Stumpy, no brand loyalty.
But then, I don't make my living with them either.
I salvage and fix up any of the old letter series. Farmall, Allis, JD.

I can tell you though when winter comes around I store and pull
the batteries out of everything but a couple of my Fords.
They do all the snowplow work during the winter.
The Fords are also the first ones to go to work in the spring,
putting in the gardens, etc. A 3pt hitch plow on the back of a
Ford is a plowing machine. Exactly the right rig for that type of work.

My Farmalls get reduced to manure duty most of the time.
But they are good at that. No 3pt or hydraulics required.
Some just play baseball on the 4th of July. LOL

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My motto is "If it runs it's used" I really don't care what color or shade it is. It just needs to be usable.

I have MF, MH, IH, and JD. Really the most trouble has been given by the Deere's. But they have wet clutches and brakes where the others don't.

Really sucked when the brakes went out in both my big tractors JD 4430 and 4320 a few years ago. Then the quad range went out in the 4430. I'm working on it now.

Trying to beat the sunshine, as opposed to the rain for once!
 
I'm with you, Oliver's and Massey Harris's for sentemental reasons are probably my favorite but a few muscle tractors of the late 60's early 70's I like too. We must be about the same age because power wagons and mopars are right up my alley also!
 
Like some of the others, whatever will start when needed. However, I'm pretty partial to Ford, since that's what I like for no other reason than they're easy for a dumb hillbilly like me to work on and keep going, and I can get on and off of them easier. I grew up on a Super H Farmall, and I lean heavily toward IH. We had one JD machine, un-styled A, that I particularly hated because I couldn't start it without rolling it off the hill by the house. Dad had a JD 620 after I left home, and it was about then I went to the 2 Fords I have now, a 9n and a 1963 2000. Told the Mrs. the other day I wouldn't have a brand new tractor of any brand if it was given to me. I like the antiques, the oldies. I enjoy hearing these young guys gripe about their power steering is "too stiff" and their "shuttles are going out". Never owned one. Don't want one. Only power steering around here is "Armstrong" type, and I couldn't begin to operate any of this new stuff. But that's what I like. And those two Fords and a '50 Cub keep my truck patch and small farm going, and I don't feel like I need anything else

Mac
 
I grew up with IH, it is what dad had, Ms and Hs. He went to Case when he wanted a diesel, a 400 in 1959, later a Case DC traded the H. I farmed with mostly JD, 20, 30, 40 series. Don't know what I would be farming with IF I was still farming. Probably 40 series JDs....James
 
Yeah we might be, I love mopars for sure, only brand I think I will ever own from here on out, but if I buy an odd ball it would be a 1970 chevelle ss454 or guess anything if price was right but I would just sell it for a mopar. Just curious how old are you, if you don't say that's fine just wondering
 
(quoted from post at 20:54:29 04/28/14) Yeah we might be, I love mopars for sure, only brand I think I will ever own from here on out, but if I buy an odd ball it would be a 1970 chevelle ss454 or guess anything if price was right but I would just sell it for a mopar. Just curious how old are you, if you don't say that's fine just wondering
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Can't buy a new MOPAR anymore, it's Chrysler FIAT..... :lol:

Just had to give you a hard time.

Rick
 
Yeah we are pretty close on age, I haven't quiet hit 30 yet but its right around the corner.
 
I will be honest with you I went to dealer the other day and
bought a few dodge truck accessorys, and they came in a
brown paper wrapper and had all the logos on it, jeep,
Chrysler, fiat, dodge, ram and in the middle it had the big
mopar M and said mopar on it, and the tag which said what
the parts were, said genuine mopar parts, not to mention the
new vehicles still say mopar on the windows.
 
I agree with you on Deeres idea to an extent,but in our area-district,Agco was the one in the late 80s-early 90s that started closing dealers out-down because they weren't meeting Agco's sales numbers.We only have 1 Agco dealer(former AC)who is not the best parts place for anything else for any of the old brands.We stuck with them until 2000 and had to change over to every thing JD and CIH.
 
I believe it's a local thing,depending on where you live and what kind of farming you do. If you've got a Deere tractor,combine or planter here that's less than 10 years old,you're in seventh heaven. Anything other Deere equipment or anything older,good luck. It was a Deere grinder mixer that brought about the beginning of the end for me. That thing might as well have been a Belarus for the attitude they gave me when I wanted parts for it.
 
First tractor I ever drove was a 21-32 TC Minneapolis-Moline. Favorite is a 1355 LP open station, nothing sounds better. For modern power we have Versatile but my loyalty is with Minneapolis-Moline.

One fact in stone is there will NEVER be a Deere John on this farm!
 
I'm pretty color blind but if I had to have a favorite it would be Case/DB. I like MF, JD and Ollie too. If I have a particular dislike for anything it's older Fords, pre-thousand series. Not real fond of some of the foreign stuff, but I'll use it if it's what I have. I'm pretty much in the "do with whatcha got" school.
 
I have all John Deere except for a Ford 2n. This was the first tractors I operated while growing up. All our neighbors had other colors/brands which I knew were reliable. Just my preference because that is what dad had.
 
You are forgetting Deere had a model of tractor before purchasing Waterloo Boy. Deere's All Wheel drive model was not a big seller and is impossible to find today, with just one or two known examples surviving.
 
I actually don't HATE Deere! I own a 336 baler, JD disk, JD plow. I use whatever is being sold around me that is in good shape. Deere makes a good machine, no denying that. My only point is that any person could buy 2 or 3 Case 930's or 2 Farmall 806's for the same price as 1 JD 4020! I would love to have a 4020 too, but NO 4020 will out work or last any longer than 2 930's or 2 806's and that's a fact!
 
(quoted from post at 05:15:34 04/29/14) I will be honest with you I went to dealer the other day and
bought a few dodge truck accessorys, and they came in a
brown paper wrapper and had all the logos on it, jeep,
Chrysler, fiat, dodge, ram and in the middle it had the big
mopar M and said mopar on it, and the tag which said what
the parts were, said genuine mopar parts, not to mention the
new vehicles still say mopar on the windows.
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That's because FIAT owns the Mopar (My Old Plymouth Ain't Running) name just like they own the Chrysler, Plymouth, Dodge, Ram and Jeep names. It's all under one roof, Fiat's roof. They can put what ever name they want on it. Heck they can take the POS car they are selling with the FIAT badge on it and call it a CIH or a Ram if they want to.

Rick
 
Doesn't matter its still a mopar, whether its fiat owned or not,
and fiat doesn't own chrysler 100% they own 51% which yes
it's majority but there still a mopar and I'm gonna continue
buying new and restoring old.
 
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