Is This Really That RARE???

Bryce Frazier

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Saw this in CL just a few minutes ago, looks kind of fake to me, but I don't know that much about this series of Ford, 860, I think that is the biggest and baddest of the 800's isn't it? Bryce
Plane Tug
 
The 800 series all had the same engine, just different transmission, PTO, and hydraulic options. None were 'bigger' than any others, unless you put bigger tires on it. :) As this one has a 4-speed, it is not an 860. It may have a torque converter transmission - some of the tugs did. Rare? Maybe, yes, if it is a genuine Air Force tug. Wrong nose medallion for an 800 series - it has the one for a '54 NAA.
 
Ad says it was used at airport. Airport tractors didn"t have a 3 pt. From the pic it looks like there is no 3 pt. It might be rare, but IMHO near worthless without 3 pt.
george
 
If it was a military tractor bought by the US gov., it would have a seperate id plate fasened on it which gave it a gov tracking number, the branch of military it was assigned to, etc. and it would have also been painted military colors
That is how the Case military tractors were shipped.
Loren, the Acg.
 
Yes" indeed its rare, its rare that it could pull an airplane or pull itself.

People will try anything to fool people into believing sumthings rare, so they can sock it to the unspecting buyer.
 
We had one once.It came from an underground coal mine.It was beat to holy crap.....!!!!!Used it for a coulpe years on a hay rake.When it quit,we hauled it to a consignment sale.It brought $1300 as a nonrunner in the 'dead row'.We pd much less than that we we first bought it!
 
No pto lever either. I think he tried real hard to choose photos that don't show the missing parts so much.

Would it be an 820 with 4 speed, no hydraulics, no pto, no 3pt?

Can still tug a float through a parade, is about all its good for with that configuration, guess that is good enough for some.

Paul
 
George,
I have a Case 440 tractor that had no hydraulics, pto, or 3pt. It was sold and built as a highway mower tractor, fitted with a front crank driven pump, and a Triumph all hyd belly mower.
The Triumph mower was removed from it before I got it, but I recently aquired a factory hyd system and bolted it into the torque tube for remote hydraulics and it gets used all the time around here. Lots of uses for a tractor without pto and 3pt. It will work great this spring on the hyd dump trailer while picking rock, and later when I am bringing home next years firewood.
The pic was taken last week in our sugar bush pulling one of our sap gathering buggies.
Loren, the Acg.
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case guy.
I have an IH C with no 3 pt. I bought a Jubilee because I wanted a 3 pt for snow blade, rear finish mower, rock rake, disk. My IH C has a 2 inch receiver so I can pull my 10K dump trailer.

I definately wouldn't want to buy another tractor without 3 pt. So for me, a tug tractor is near worthless. I wonder if it has a PTO?
George
 
An 860 would have a 5 speed transmission and 2 stage clutch. The tractor in the picture appears to be a 4 speed which would be an 840.
 

A friend has a retired 600 hundred tug. It has a very visible torque converter that goes between the transmission and motor in place of the bell housing if I remember correctly. It has some very prominent hoses too. The converter adds about 300 lbs. to it.
 
The old tug/mine tractor we had had no pto or any hydralics.It pulled a gooseneck ore cart from a gooseneck ball up on top of the differencial..
 
An 860 has a different gearshift.If it was military it would have a brass tag saying so.
 
Sounds like an auction near here a few years ago that had a Farmall Super HTA. The auctioneer talked it up as "extremely rare".

It was rare. Farmall never made a Super HTA. The only way it could have come about was for someone to mate a 300 rear with a Super H front. Dang thing brought $8,000.

Have no idea if the buyer knew what he was getting.
 
Took a few pictures of this tug a couple years ago for sale on the side of the road. I never did find out what they where asking for it.

Dan
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Even if it is "original" it didn't come with a Delco alternator. I'd be crossing that "rare" tractor off my shopping list.
 
He put the front fenders off of a military tug (like the yellow one in another response) on an 840 and he's trying to pawn it off on some poor sucker.
Ford sold modified 9N's to the military as the BNO tugs and then they sold the 601 and 2000 series tractors with the enclosed cab to the military. The tractor that's for sale is in no way a military tug.
 
23 years in service. I have never seen a aircraft tug like that.If it was real it would have a military tag. With a model number and an NSN number. Plus branch that it was sold to.Looks nice but it is not military.
 

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