Paint Hardener Update

Bryce Frazier · Apr 8, 2014

Alright, so I got the hardener... Here is a link to the page, scroll all the way to the bottom...

It shows two different kinds, one of which appears to be the "safer alternative". What does it look like to you guys? I looked at the MSDS sheet for the safer one, and it still said that it can be deadly, but it also said that a painting respirator would be fine??

Bryce

Bryce Frazier · Apr 8, 2014

Ugh, forgot the link.... Time for a nice shower and bed.... Bryce
VanSickle

bill mart · Apr 8, 2014

according to the second ones msds you could use a cartridge respirator.

bill mart · Apr 8, 2014

really didn't see iso in either one. Bill

MarkB_MI · Apr 9, 2014

Regardless of whether or not the hardener contains isocyanates, you'll be relatively safe if you're painting outdoors. If you'll be working indoors, then you really do need to be concerned.

jimg.allentown · Apr 9, 2014

Best recommendation is to follow what the MSDS calls for as to protective equipment. Would you rather be overprotected or find out at age 25 that you have an incurable cancer or other dread terminal disease??
When I thing of some of the things that we "old timers" did as children and even as young men, it is a wonder that many of us are still around to tell about it.
Be careful! And don't try to work around safety recommendations. They are for your own personal safety.

old-9 · Apr 9, 2014

The 7019 gives a better shine. Also at the top of their page click on " tractor hall of fame" I have one on there. joe

David G · Apr 9, 2014

I agree with Jim, just get a breathing air kit, it will last you the rest of your life.

Dave H (MI) · Apr 9, 2014

You are completely and certifiably out of your mind if you cheap out on this and do not buy one of the relatively inexpensive supplied air respirators and a paint suit. Even outdoors a change in the breeze can give you a snootful. You don't get to spit it back out. I even use mine to clean out buildings now. You only get one set of lungs.

JMS/.MN · Apr 9, 2014

I"d say you"re dead wrong with that assessment.

Pops1532 · Apr 9, 2014

Yes. Very irresponsible advice.

Pops1532 · Apr 9, 2014

Good advice on the suit. You can absorb the solvents through your skin as well.

David G · Apr 9, 2014

I will wheeze up just walking past the freshly painted parts, or cleaning the gun out after painting.

I leave my gear on until everything is cleaned up and the parts get dried over, and area is aired out good.

I have a breathe cool.

Bryce Frazier · Apr 9, 2014

Well, I talked to the guys at NAPA, and they sold me a top of the line respirator that is Paint Booth Certified for 50 hours, then you just throw it away and buy a new one. I am going to call VanSickle this afternoon and see what they have to say, but even on the can, it didn't say anything more than that it might cause "minor skin and throat irritation" ???

Don't worry guys, I am looking into what my options are, and I PROMISE I won't do anything until I am sure I am safe....

Bryce

Duner Wi · Apr 9, 2014

I seal my respirator up in an air tight container when not in use. Mine has replacement cartridges and is 3M I think.

Bryce Frazier · Apr 9, 2014

Ya, a buddy of mine that paints cars for a living puts his in a Folgers Coffee Pot, one of those plastic ones with the seal able lid... I think thats probably what I will do.... Bryce

2 Old 2 care · Apr 9, 2014

Worst advice I've ever read on this site...^^^^^^

I've painted a grand total of ONE tractor....Did it outside. Used hardener and a cheap "respirator" mask.

Now I have symptoms similar to asthma as a direct result. Never had a breathing issue in my life until the day after I sprayed that one tractor.

GordoSD · Apr 9, 2014

Have you looked at the advantages of a quality, automobile urethane paint? No hardener needed and many advantages over that VanSickle barn paint.

MarkB_MI · Apr 9, 2014

2 Old, thanks for posting your experience. It's enough to stop me from doing that...again.

I did it once, but I did use a good respirator with carbon filters. I realize I took a risk, and I also realize that some folks are more sensitive to isocyanates than others.

Worst advise ever? On this site, that's saying something.

Stephen Newell · Apr 9, 2014

I'm never going to spray another paint with an isocyonate hardener without an air supplied respirator again. I painted one tractor using a standard paint respirator trying to stay upwind from the paint and holding my breath when down wind. After I got done I coughed for six months.

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