DH in Carolina
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Today is Vietnam Veterans Day 2014
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ShadetreeRet
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Touching, to say the least.
Billy Shafer
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I remember what they told us about Agent Orange. It will kill bugs plants and trees. But it won't hurt you. But they were wrong. I know.
The one's I killed visit me about once a week when I try to sleep.
Worst part was being treated like trash when I came home.
The one's I killed visit me about once a week when I try to sleep.
Worst part was being treated like trash when I came home.
DH in Carolina
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I have the same problems and fighting the VA now for ptsd. And its only been 45 years ago.
dick1234
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Thank you for sharing this. I'm sure every Vietnam Vet would appreciate reading it, as I did.
Billy Shafer
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I have been fighting the VA since 1972. Getting real tired of being told. I couldn't have been exposed to AO. Because I was on a ship in the gulf.But they can't explain why everyone that I have talked to. From my ship has AO related problems. Plus I was in and out of Da Nang many times.
DH in Carolina
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I thought that if you set foot on ground in Vietnam you were eligible for agent orange screening for its side effects and possible compensation. Also people on ships, and aircraft that transported or sprayed agent orange are now eligible for screenings.
larry@stinescorner
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thanks for posting that,im 58,but do have some older friends that went there
Billy Shafer
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That is the way it is supposed to work. Buy you know the VA. Lie and Denie.
Badger bob
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thank you guys and may god bless ya. bob
Fergienewbee
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Thank you to all of you who protected me out in the bush while I slept on a cot, had three hots and a shower every day. God bless you all.
Larry
Larry
Me being a little older, served my three years before Viet Nam and after Korea. I have no idea what it would be like to be over there. Don't know if I could have handled it. My dad was WW1 and although us kids were always shooting shot guns and rifles, you never ever did it in such a way that it would startle him. He was fine with us shooting and he even shot some but never completely got over the war. Didn't want a gun salute at his funeral either. Greatest respect for any who served and are still serving.
billy foremost dairy had exclusive contract to supply milk to the military all of them.....
foremost would reduce the moisture content by half and of course when it got in country they added the moisture back to it of course the water was contaminated.... i got this info 5 years ago.
foremost would reduce the moisture content by half and of course when it got in country they added the moisture back to it of course the water was contaminated.... i got this info 5 years ago.
smoking Minnie
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I am only 37. My father and two uncles were in country. I have seen first hand what you gentlemen live with. I am thankful for your service to god and country. I am proud to have known many Vietnam vets. I will forever be in your debt . You are true heroes I know in your eyes you were just doing your duty You all left a sacrifice on the alter of freedom. May God bless you and watch over you. Thank You for your service. If I could I would shake every one of your hands and tell you in person.
Indiana George
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Hey billy, have you started a claim with the v a?
Don't give up , keep on fighting them. They want you to give up.I was there in 1966 with an infantry co.So far, 5 of my friends from my platoon have died from agent orage.One just passed away this past Christmas.Welcome home brother.
Don't give up , keep on fighting them. They want you to give up.I was there in 1966 with an infantry co.So far, 5 of my friends from my platoon have died from agent orage.One just passed away this past Christmas.Welcome home brother.
Billy, I don't know what ship(s) you were on, but if it was one of these, or if you had even short shore visits, there should be little or no fight.
you may already be aware of this, but I though I would throw it out there.
I know the VA system. My Dad was treated at the VA for 20 years before he died of service related mesothelioma
List of navy and coast guard ships serving in vietnam
you may already be aware of this, but I though I would throw it out there.
I know the VA system. My Dad was treated at the VA for 20 years before he died of service related mesothelioma
List of navy and coast guard ships serving in vietnam
Goose
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I was in the Marine Corps during the Vietnam War, but the Corps saw fit to occupy me elsewhere. Does it make sense to say I've always felt I've missed out on something?
That being said, when I had an office job with an insurance company, I got to BSing one day with an Army vet of 'Nam from New York. He said he had been wounded in action and came home on convalescent leave. Said he got off a plane at La Guardia in uniform and walked right into an anti-war protest.
When one of the protestors spit on him, he flat out lost it and decked the guy. Believe it or not, a nearby cop cited him for assault. When he appeared in court, the judge had sense enough to throw the whole thing out and apologize.
That being said, when I had an office job with an insurance company, I got to BSing one day with an Army vet of 'Nam from New York. He said he had been wounded in action and came home on convalescent leave. Said he got off a plane at La Guardia in uniform and walked right into an anti-war protest.
When one of the protestors spit on him, he flat out lost it and decked the guy. Believe it or not, a nearby cop cited him for assault. When he appeared in court, the judge had sense enough to throw the whole thing out and apologize.
DH THANKS for the post.
I have not had too many BAD effects from the war other than injuries/wounds. They have been an issue since then.
I was lucky in that I did not run into any of the hard core anti-war crowd at that time. I would not have reacted very well to any of them.
The thing that was hard to get your head around was the speed in which you could go from full combat to being in your home back states side. Sometimes in as little as 3-4 days. I had to really watch how I reacted when back home for the first few days.
Billy Shafer. You need to get an advocate to look into your case if you are having trouble with the VA. I have several friends that had trouble until they got an advocate involved. If your a member of the Legion or VFW they have advocates available to help you.
You need to prove you where exposed to Agent Orange. You either had to have be in country or been around it at any time it was being transported.
I have not had too many BAD effects from the war other than injuries/wounds. They have been an issue since then.
I was lucky in that I did not run into any of the hard core anti-war crowd at that time. I would not have reacted very well to any of them.
The thing that was hard to get your head around was the speed in which you could go from full combat to being in your home back states side. Sometimes in as little as 3-4 days. I had to really watch how I reacted when back home for the first few days.
Billy Shafer. You need to get an advocate to look into your case if you are having trouble with the VA. I have several friends that had trouble until they got an advocate involved. If your a member of the Legion or VFW they have advocates available to help you.
You need to prove you where exposed to Agent Orange. You either had to have be in country or been around it at any time it was being transported.
BushogPapa
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Yep...that about sums it up...
Ron.
BushogPapa
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Would have been great..we were stuck with "Hamms and Balentine" beer..unless we could get some "33" beer..(Bam-e-bam)..(Pick the light colored bottles, they have less Formaldehyde in them)!
Ron.
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I truly realize how fortunate I was compared to many, many other shipmates, Marines, soldiers and airmen. I was in the Navy from 1970 to 1974.
I too got spit on while changing gates at san francisco international on a flight home to propose to my wife of now 43 years. It sure knocked the wind out of my sails but I never told my wife about it until after we were married as I didn't want to put a negative spin on our engagement. I am glad to see our young people welcomed home now days and are appreciated along with the remaining WWII vets. I admit that sometimes I feel a bit resentful, though . . .
I too got spit on while changing gates at san francisco international on a flight home to propose to my wife of now 43 years. It sure knocked the wind out of my sails but I never told my wife about it until after we were married as I didn't want to put a negative spin on our engagement. I am glad to see our young people welcomed home now days and are appreciated along with the remaining WWII vets. I admit that sometimes I feel a bit resentful, though . . .
Billy Shafer
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I was on the USS Saratoga CVA 60. We went over in 1972.When our planes came back from a strike. The ones that needed repairs. Were parked in hanger bay three. Right outside our shop door.I told the guys they smelled like the cotton spray from back home.Sometimes they had a slight film on them.The smell would fill our shop.
Pilot told me one time. That sometimes they would fly at tree top level. So I would guess that is where they picked it up at.I was flying from the ship to Da Nang to Subic. To check on and help with repairs. To our liberty boats we would some times leave behind.But of course the VA says I could not have been exposed.
Had an appointment in June for an AO exam.But the VA now says. They have no record of me ever applying.Even after I gave them my case number.I am done with them. Just another branch of the Gov't you can't trust.
Pilot told me one time. That sometimes they would fly at tree top level. So I would guess that is where they picked it up at.I was flying from the ship to Da Nang to Subic. To check on and help with repairs. To our liberty boats we would some times leave behind.But of course the VA says I could not have been exposed.
Had an appointment in June for an AO exam.But the VA now says. They have no record of me ever applying.Even after I gave them my case number.I am done with them. Just another branch of the Gov't you can't trust.
Billy Shafer
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Yes I have . But the VA now tells me they have no record of me. Even after I gave them my case number.Out of our shop of 15. Six are dead and the rest of us have health problems we shouldn't have.
Billy Shafer
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JD I wouldn't go near a Legion or VFW club. I was told when I came back home. My kind were not wanted.
Not trying to sound like this is all about me. Because I know there are thousands of us Nam vets. Suffering with problems and not getting the help we need.
High school buddy of mine. Was a door gunner on a slick. Got hit on landing one day. He was blown out the other door. Lost half his left leg. Lost his left arm,eye and most of his face. Took him 15 years for the VA. To give him full disability. Because they said he was not injured enough.
Not trying to sound like this is all about me. Because I know there are thousands of us Nam vets. Suffering with problems and not getting the help we need.
High school buddy of mine. Was a door gunner on a slick. Got hit on landing one day. He was blown out the other door. Lost half his left leg. Lost his left arm,eye and most of his face. Took him 15 years for the VA. To give him full disability. Because they said he was not injured enough.
Billy Shafer
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That Carlin was hard to get down. Ever get some San Miguel or White Horse Scotch
super99
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Thank you to all who served. When I was 18, I was in the draft lottery, my birthday came up #361. Figured that was a sign that I wasn't supposed to go. Thanks to all that did. My wife's 2 brothers were in country. Younger of the 2 has cancer from Agent Orange. He said he had no luck with the VA. Billy, contact DAV, he says they will fight for you and get you what you deserve from the VA. Thanks again to all who served. Chris
Tx Jim
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Thanks to all the ones that served and protected the USA.
Tim Barnes
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I remember Carlings Black Label, the steel cans often had a bit of rust on the top from setting at some depot level place in the rain. I worked on the deHavilland C7a's 'Caribous', a STOL (Short Take Off or Landing) small transport. Payload could handle 32 troops & their gear or a couple of jeeps. We supplied the FOB's that had a 1200 foot landing strip. I recall breaking open skids of C rations and stashing a few cases of beer inside the load for the Special Forces FOB's. The SF guys would always compensate us but it's still a secret so I can't say how.
March 29th is now Vietnam Veterans Day, so a belated Welcome Home to all vets everywhere.
Tim Barnes
USAF '65-68
Republic of Viet Nam Aug. 67- Aug. 68
Billy Shafer
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I had my first taste of chopped Ham and Eggs. From the C ration pack. One morning in Da Nang. Worst meal I ever had to choke down.
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