I need advise on purchase of new tractor.

jimwaldhaus

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I have a White 2-30 four wheel drive tractor . I believe it is to
small for what I am asking it to do .It is rated at approximately
27.5 Hp. I was told by a guy selling some tractors who seemed to know what he was talking about that I was having problems with
my front differential because the amount of dirt / weight I was
moving on a regular basis was more than this tractor was engineered to handle .He asked if the dirt I was moving was on flat ground or on hillsides. I answered that I was moving a hill on
a parcel . He said that Ford 545d had a low center of gravity and
had the tendency not to lift one or more wheels off the ground when fully loaded . I need 4 wheel drive and 60 or so horse may be adequate to handle the weight I am moving . Any advise and or tractor models you might suggest looking into would be very helpful. I do not have a lot of experience as the White is my first tractor.Getting the right tractor to handle the job is extremely
important .I do not want to have to fix a tractor over and over.
 
Some are OK with that 2-30,I'm not all that fond of them. This 1365 Oliver was available as an Oliver or Cockshutt,a White 1370 or a Moline G450. They're 56 horse. They really were the Cadillac of the Oliver/White utility 4x4s.
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I've spent alot of time on a 545D and 545A(no reverser) scrapping dairy manure with a box blade and using the loader to fill the spreader. They are real handy for that type of thing, ours was 2wd so I cant speak for the 4x4 models. Ours didn't like to be run wide open in road gear, it would get hot. Other than the hydraulics freezing up when it was really cold, they were trouble free. They are a HEAVY beast.
 
What exactly are you doing? Maybe a tractor isn't
the best machine for the job. Maybe a skid steer
for example would be a better choice. If you have a
lot of dirt to move an industrial tractor/loader
would be a much better choice than an AG tractor.
 
(quoted from post at 06:45:15 03/29/14) What exactly are you doing? Maybe a tractor isn't
the best machine for the job. Maybe a skid steer
for example would be a better choice. If you have a
lot of dirt to move an industrial tractor/loader
would be a much better choice than an AG tractor.
agree it is hard to recommend anything until we really know what you want to do. it almost sounds like a small dozer would be be your best bet if you are just moving dirt "soley".
 
(quoted from post at 00:24:04 03/29/14) Some are OK with that 2-30,I'm not all that fond of them. This 1365 Oliver was available as an Oliver or Cockshutt,a White 1370 or a Moline G450. They're 56 horse. They really were the Cadillac of the Oliver/White utility 4x4s.
You might check the link for some help.
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f you are looking for a utility tractor these are very hard to beat.Very good parts availability,fuel efficient, tough and,powerful for their size, very versatile,one of the best utility tractors ever built. And I've owned one for going on 15yrs. with no complaints!And I don't baby it,earns it's keep on my farm.
 
OK a farm tractor is designed to till dirt and construction equipment is designed to move dirt. That's not saying you can't move dirt with a farm tractor but you cannot move dirt at the rate construction equipment can. An old D2 Cat will move as much dirt as a modern D8 will, it just takes a lot longer. Sounds to me like you are expecting to much from your equipment. Slow down, more trips with smaller loads may be your answer.

Rick
 
I appreciate your responses to my inquiry on suggestions for a
larger, better suited tractor for moving dirt. What I would like to
accomplish is to move a hill about 10' tall x75' wide and 300'long.
I am moving this to another property in a dump trailer that is about 4 miles away . The property where it is being moved is
an island with a levee and anything done to raise the ground level
is beneficial . So the dirt on first property is being cleared to plant grapes and grow vegetables . I am retired and even though
I have owned first property for many years I have never utilized
this plot .After a fire in August of 2007 I have had to rethink
my priorities .The fire was an uninsured total loss that really cut deep into my soul now I find myself changing what I thought was important and significant to a different dream of who this person
is that I am.
 
That's a lot of material to move! Your best bet is to hire someone with the equipment and trucks capable of handling a project like that.
If you're set on doing it yourself a crawler loader would be a good type of machine to get as you could also use it to grade the fill after you're done trucking it. Something about the size of a Case 850 or bigger would work. You may want to consider getting a tandem axle dump truck too.
I have a nice dump trailer and I wouldn't consider using it for a project like you describe.
Once you remove the hill will the soil be suitable for growing anything?
 

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