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Bryce Frazier · Mar 22, 2014

Well, I spent the better part of the day working on the baler. I powerwashed the entire thing, then I did it again. I took the old engine off (TFD) and put the new "good running" one I have on it (TJD). Got the belts back on, greased every zerk I could find, and started piddling around with the engine (which attracted dad).

We managed to get it fired up and I deceded to FLOOR it on the engine and see if it would turn the baler while Barry stood at the back and "watched" everything, so thats what we did. It took about 10 tries of nearly choking the engine out to get it going, but we did!

Now you can walk up to it, light up the engine, floor it, and lock up the belts, and it goes right to working! TOO COOL!!!!!

Here are before and after shots. The engine isn't running perfectly, it bogs down pretty badly when the baler is engaged, but I think that cleaning out the carb and checking the Dist. should fix all the problems! Now I can't wait to bale! Thanks, Bryce

dmiller · Mar 22, 2014

Congratulations. I think we should start a "Lance award" and give the first one to you.

Janicholson · Mar 22, 2014

I think an award is appropriate. I think lance is different enough from Bryce, that the Award should be call Youthful Enthusiasm and Success (YES). I can make them with a laser engraver if we (collectively) think it is a good idea. Jim

Brian Dan · Mar 22, 2014

What is that a New Holland 66?
You are going to learn to hate that thing. Don't ever shut it off because you will never get it started when hot. The engine is good but they love to vapor lock.
My dad had one and the happiest day was when we traded it off.
Good luck!
Brian

TomH in PA · Mar 22, 2014

Good job Bryce. A machine can always be repaired - just some are easier (and cheaper) than others.

MTC · Mar 22, 2014

Bryce--I do not know you but I can tell by what you did to that baler you are a get it done person.I would like to meet your folks.They did a great job raising you.You look at a challange and do it.That will carry you though life.So many people look at something and decide it is to much of a hassle and walk away.You just get it done.Good for you. Keep that attitude and it will take you far!!

JMS/.MN · Mar 22, 2014

In case you didn"t find it- find the zerk for the plunger stop pivot. If that doesn"t work when needed, all your good work will be for naught (knot?).

Bryce Frazier · Mar 22, 2014

I'm not so sure an Award is in order! This is just how I do things, every day I have a project, yesterday I stripped my JD No. 5 mower down to nothing but the frame out in the meadow, and lubed/cleaned everything and put it back together. Now all I have to do to it is buy a Square PTO shaft (have the U joints for the end) and sharpen the sickles. They have the notches on the bottom, so I should be okay to run the hand file across each one. Bryce

Bryce Frazier · Mar 22, 2014

Do you mean inside the baler where the plunger rod is on the arm that makes it go forward and backward? I found two on the Flywheel, a whole mess of them around the knotters, two on the needles a few by the pickup side wheel, and few by the plunger wheel, and a few kind of inside/below where the engine is. Sound right? Bryce

Bryce Frazier · Mar 22, 2014

Every kid can say that their parents are "the best". I personally won't say that, but BOTH of them are pretty damned good! Mom seems to not have a lot of faith in me when I start on of these "5 min" projects at 8 in the morning, but lunch is ALWAYS provided at 12 if I am not in by 11:30.

Dad on the other hand usually ends up costing me money by try to "fix that real quick", but he can make anything work, and I am FAST on the same track as him!

Bryce

Super-H-Mike · Mar 22, 2014

Nice work ! Keep it up and don t let anybody discourage you from doing things you like to do ! You are building memories and character.

G1355 · Mar 22, 2014

How many horse is that motor, always thought of doing that but have always ran one with the pto.

Bryce Frazier · Mar 22, 2014

I know that the TFD's are 15, this is a TJD off of a 276 New Holland baler, so I think it is 20 ish, but it sure didn't act like it!
In all honesty I am not all that sure, come to think of it, I might have to look it up! Bryce

Paul from MI · Mar 22, 2014

On an old baler like that check to be sure the safety catch that prevents the plunger from shearing off the needles if the needles don't retract all the way is working right. Don't ask me how I know to check this.

DENNIS MIN · Mar 22, 2014

Bryce,

I commend your endeavor(s). I will speak for me only, your adventure is what keeps me at this site.

Make your mistakes, learn, listen to those that walked similar paths, humbly accept my/our collective congratulations.

D.

DWF · Mar 22, 2014

My Uncle had one of those balers back in the late 50's and 60's. He baled a lot with it even did custom work when it was new. He put dual wheels on the left side under the bales. This helped the baler stay up when the ground was wet.
You did a good job.
DWF

JMS/.MN · Mar 22, 2014

No, it"s under the baler (on a 268, etc). Just fwd of where the needles come up is a wedge that rises to block contact with the plunger head. Follow that linkage fwd under the bale chamber to find the pivot. Maybe your baler is slightly different but it should have some kind of plunger protection. paul is referring to the same thing. 268 has 2 zerks on the pivot.

Anonymous-0 · Mar 22, 2014

If you make a trophy up, he spelled it "Lanse"

GordoSD · Mar 22, 2014

Great job. You can bale with your Mom's Impala. LOL I did a lot of raking with a Suzuki Samurai.

Leroy · Mar 22, 2014

They were not as temperamental as a lot think. A lot of the problems are from not keeping all the air passages clean and engine getting too hot. Then the diaphram? in fuel pump will get a pin hole you cannot even see that will be the cause of hard starting. If I was still farming that would be my baler of choise. Grew up with one.

GarryinNC · Mar 22, 2014

Is that a Ford 250 baler. I might have missed a previous post. Good for you for working on it. You will learn a lot. Roger Penske says:'Effort Equals Results'.

Garry

larry@stinescorner · Mar 22, 2014

nice job! keep us posted!

RusselAZ · Mar 22, 2014

Road many a mile behind my Dad's like it on a 9 bale sled. Dad finally got tired of cranking the engine so he put a PTO shaft on it. Saved untold grief.

Bryce Frazier · Mar 22, 2014

Well, funny you should say that, because there is a 72 ElCamino, and a 73 Camaro on the property! The ElCamino is "restored" but my dad has modified it to suit his liking...

The Camaro is all original restored, and as many classic cars go, this one is allergic to our gravel drive way, so I don't think it will be bailing hay anytime soon!
Bryce

Bret4207 · Mar 23, 2014

I started off with on of those engines on a 68 NH and still have one on a 14T JD. Things to check- crap in the fuel tank plugging the line, plugged fuel filter at the sediment bowl, bad fuel pump diaphragm, crap in carb, bad plugs, plug wires, garbage in the cooling fins. Keep up with that stuff and she'll do a lot better. There is no distributor on a TH series Wisconsin. You have a mag that needs good points, a good condenser and a good cap to keep the moisture out. Those things should run all day baling, idle down fine for break time and break downs and keep going all day long as long as you keep fuel in it. Don't try baling until you get the thing running at full speed. Running a baler slow makes things real hard on baler and engine. That flywheel is big and heavy for a reason. Get you plunger knife nice and sharp and set right. Get some oil into the plunger chamber, even used oil work good.

If you have to, take the fuel tank off and have it boiled out and coated inside or put a hand full or clean gravel in there and shake it back and forth for an hour, then rinse it real good and coat the inside yourself. There is no filter on the end of the fuel line in the tank that I've ever found, so if it's not clean in there you WILL have problems.

The old baler are slow and small but they can be made to do good work.

VicS · Mar 23, 2014

Ran one of those engines on a Hahn Sprayer. Ours
would not start hot. Came to find out it was the
intake gasket leaking when got hot also intake
valves not having enough clearance.

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