Another Tractor Death

Bonnan · Mar 18, 2014

We had another tractor "flip-over" Sunday here in Western Pa. 36 year old fellow was pulling out logs. What a shame; our local Penn State Extension offices do extensive safety courses but we just don't reach enough people.

CGID · Mar 18, 2014

A while back, for my own saftey and education, I inquired on this forum about this very thing. Do you know any details about how the logs were rigged to the tracor? Were the logs being pulled on a side hill?

rustred · Mar 18, 2014

ya its too bad. I think some people are just blind to dangers at hand. you gotta have a plan up front.
and keep them damm earphones off so you can listen to machine talking, and pay attention to your surroundings.

jennifer408 · Mar 18, 2014

if enough folks got together and came up with " march is national tractor safety awareness month " it might help reach more folks. we would need a website that covers tractor safety to refer them to. we could ask news stations to mention it. just an idea.

farmerwithmutt · Mar 19, 2014

I about did it narrow front end and going through snow hit a spot that had been pushed in earlier then froze it was a lot harder and tractor went over top instead of in .theres a lot of stuff under that snow and at the right angle things happen quick i was going slow and thankfully not trying to take a run at it. had a neighbor 4010 with loader and round bale he would put bale way up in air and take a run at things seen him slide off a few times

Anonymous-0 · Mar 19, 2014

Probably the same old thing, hitching the chain to the toplink bracket...

Traditional Farmer · Mar 19, 2014

Hope the guy that was on here awhile back and had never driven a tractor was going to buy a MF 35 to pull logs reads this and takes heed.Most posters thought pulling logs with a tractor was no big deal.All it takes is for the log to hang up on something like a hidden stump and it'll flip backwards in about 1/2 a second.

Dieselrider · Mar 19, 2014

I have skidded alot of logs with a tractor. Had some hang up but, I wasn't trying to hurry and kept the foot ready on the clutch.

The old adage that "haste makes waste" applies to running tractors. Taking ones time is important when doing things that could get you hurt.

I am sorry to hear about this young fella getting killed. My condolences to the family.

keh · Mar 19, 2014

General rules for pulling logs with tractor:

1. Pull slowly
2. Pull slowly
3. Pull from drawbar
4. Alternative to #3, lower 3ph with tool bar over the end of log, chain to tool bar tightly, raise tool bar enough to get end of log off ground so it wont catch on something and to reduce friction, still pull slowly.
5. Don't use a small tractor.

KEH

IH2444 · Mar 19, 2014

There will always be those who believe themselves invincible,
It has not got me yet.
Just do not listen or think they already know it all.

Just like there will always be those who drive drunk, etc

imho If you are going to be moving many logs with a tractor get A skidding rig or make one.
A tractor is not a do everything machine.
You would not cultivate your beans with a skid steer now would you?

caterpillar guy · Mar 19, 2014

Yup and then we could fall getting out of bed and get killed too.

GeneMO · Mar 19, 2014

I pull mine out with a D-2 Cat. No problems.

Gene

jerrybigrig · Mar 19, 2014

Just wondering wouldnt be better if you hooked your tow chain close to front axle ?? That way it wouldnt rear up ??

IH2444 · Mar 19, 2014

Yep but few younger people die that way.
Nothing is totally safe just take as few chances as you can.
Think about you wife and children without you.

Lazy WP · Mar 19, 2014

Just what we need. More regulation. I say that we keep allowing nature to take its course. Eventually we will have a safer America.

dr sportster · Mar 19, 2014

The thinking is you will have time to push in the clutch. The amount of fatalities says otherwise . 1/2 second agreed.

randallinMo · Mar 19, 2014

If a skid steer was all I had.......I'd figure out a way to do it.

INCase · Mar 19, 2014

when i was in the AgE dept in state college we had a remote controled tractor with a full cage they would run up a hill to show how tractors can roll over.

IH2444 · Mar 19, 2014

(quoted from post at 11:53:20 03/19/14) when i was in the AgE dept in state college we had a remote controled tractor with a full cage they would run up a hill to show how tractors can roll over.

They were not dumb enough to let anyone ride in it were they?

full cage does not help if you do not have a good seat belt on.
Now how many of us actually wear those?

IH2444 · Mar 19, 2014

(quoted from post at 11:31:44 03/19/14) If a skid steer was all I had.......I'd figure out a way to do it.

Yeah most of us would..

buickanddeere · Mar 19, 2014

(quoted from post at 07:58:44 03/19/14) I have skidded alot of logs with a tractor. Had some hang up but, I wasn't trying to hurry and kept the foot ready on the clutch.

The old adage that "haste makes waste" .

Many times speed becomes a hazard when the operator has too much load, too little tractor or not enough traction. They gear up and "take a run at it".

Anonymous-0 · Mar 19, 2014

I pull monster oaks with a 1937 jd a .no problem,just don't be an idiot and take your time and think about what your doing,I'm never in a rush when it comes to tractors pulling or just driving,I put a kill switch on mine real easy to hit sometimes I hit it buy accident

rick1 · Mar 19, 2014

when i skid logs i pull off the back of a 3-point back blade.helps keep the front end down.
RICK

shinnery · Mar 20, 2014

I went to pull up a 3/4" mesquite with my UB Moline once and didn't pay attention to where my brother hooked the chain on the UB. That front end got about 4' in the air in a HURRY. The idiot had tied it above the rear axles. Never again.
Bryce

IH2444 · Mar 20, 2014

(quoted from post at 20:21:51 03/19/14) when i skid logs i pull off the back of a 3-point back blade.helps keep the front end down.
RICK

Umm seems like that would add more leverage t pull the front up more?
If you run the backblade just above the gouund I can see how that would help a bunch about front rise.

Bret4207 · Mar 20, 2014

I have been and will continue to pull logs with an 800 Ford off of a drawbar on the 3 pt arms. You can tell me I'm facing certain death or that I'm foolish if you want, but I've never had a problem. The caveat in this is that I don't go fast, I know the tractor, the hydraulics are so weak that I get only a little lift and that I'm not an idiot in the first place. I prefer to use my JD40C for the big stuff, or better yet the horses. Time is the factor making the decision.

RGMartin · Mar 20, 2014

It will only allow the front end to come up a little before the blade hits the ground and stops you. I use a box blade for the same purpose sometimes. If you chain it right it allows for a certain amount of weight transfer.

NNP · Mar 20, 2014

whatever model tractor,
pull from 'as designed' spots
underbelly drawbar is best.
when I'm pulling something that is way too heavy or might get hung up, I chain it to a blade or box blade just off the ground.
Gets hung up and the blade whacks the ground and I spin the tires.
Or the front comes up just the amount the blade was off the ground and I keep dragging the whole mess, steering with the brakes.

pulling from the under belly drawbar or an implement as the tractor is designed makes that log that dug in, just like a bottom plow or subsoiler that hooks a root or rock. stops you cold and spins the tires or breaks stuff.
watch some tractor pull videos where the weight skid is designed to dig in and stop you. tractors come up till the centerline-chain-hook point are in a straight line...that's it, when properly hooked.

disclaimer....really dumb or crazy operators can still find a way.. usually trying to 'jerk' an immovable object...

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