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OT: Trying to paint over Crayon, magic marker,etc?

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Greg1959

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Just evicted a really bad renter. Seems they turned their kids loose with all kinds of drawings implements. You name it, the walls are covered with it.

Killz, speedy-hide, even skim coating with drywall mud seems to have no effect in getting it covered.

I don't really want to strip out all the drywall and re-drywall the house.

Any suggestions?????

At least the feces was pretty easy to clean off the walls and covered okay. :)
 
I think you would need to remove the wax, I don't think you will find anything that will acceptably paint over it. You have the pores the paint would stick to covered with a wax.....

I don't know if tsp or the other cleaners would be up to the task.

Paul
 
The wax (crayon) has to be removed completely. Light sanding until all traces are gone. Several coats of primer might cover the marker.


HTH

Areo
 
It is the wax that Crayons are made of giving you the trouble. You need to wash/strip the wax off and get back to the drywall under it. Nothing will stick long term to the wax.

I have had the best luck with "Klean Strip" on this type of stuff. It will clean the wall down to where you have a surface that will hold primer/paint.

I then usually paint it with a sealer/primer. 1-2-3 Primer usually is good for the base coat.
 
Five Star No. 5900. Most autobody jobbers sell it by the quart or gallon. It has a VERY strong paint thinner smell, but, it will strip everything from latex paint. If you already put a coat of kilz overtop of it, it is probably imbedded into the kilz. I hope you didn't do the whole place already. If it is embedded, then you need to get the cheapest rubbing alcohol you can buy and soak rags with it, then scrub the portions of the wall with the marks. it will take the kilz down, too. They do make a liquid TSP solution but it isn't as strong as it used to be. Going to an old hardware store that has some on the shelf from the 1990's is your best bet.

I have had my share of tenants who passed background checks and seemed angelic.


I came to find out on more than one occasion that the references lied, because they wanted them out of their building because they were so bad. Had a dainty 350 lb mother of 3, throw her 12 year old daughter through 1/2 drywall between the studs, and bulge the wall on the backside. She also tried to hide a hole in the shower by covering it with a piece of cut up pizza box and masking tape.

Good luck
 
hairspray in this case is your best friend. we ve had your dilema a few times. at least your not dealing with thousands of hiv+ needles etc.
 
Thanks for all the suggestions! I'll try them until I get this stuff covered. I wasn't looking forward to stripping and re-hanging drywall.

Thanks again

Greg1959
 
thats what i like to give my nieces and nephew for christmas i think i know why my sister wont talk to me !!!
i agree you get the best recomandations from people that are trying to get rid of somebody
 
The house my parents bought when they left the farm had the same problem. I sanded the crayon
and used Montgomery Ward's best paint this was in the 1950's. My nephew inherited the home when my sister died in 2008. None of the paint pealed. My nephew turn down $500000.00 for the house. The land is worth more than the house being in a commercial area. I think my parents paid $11000.00 for it. Hal
 

A couple of coats of white shellack should do the trick.

Worked for me on crayon drawings on the wall.

It will show thru the white shellack but paint over it and it will vanish.
 
Since it is the wax causing trouble, what if you spray carb cleaner or brake cleaner on a rag and scrub it? That should do it. They say those Magic Erasers will take off crayon. They do a stellar job with everything I have ever used them for.
 
Am trying to do the same with the bedroom the grand kids decorated. Washed what I could. Was actually peeling off the latex paint, down to oil based previous coat. GOOF-OFF and other grafiti removers really peeled the paint. Have just painted the room with ZINSSER primer. Seems to adhere to both base coat, latex coat, and has covered most of the marker/crayon/pencil. Think a coat of color, and I"ll be good. Check with your ACE hardware for that primer.
 
greg, i run 16 rental units. couple things to try. first....wd 40. get some rolls of paper towels from sams club. spray the wd-40 on the crayon, it will dissolve and scrub it off. or you can try a hair blow dryer and dawn dish soap. heat the crayon up with the blow dryer till the wax starts to melt, the scrub with dawn on a scotchbrite sponge. last, get some mr clean magic erasers from the grocery store or hardware store. they work pretty good to. after you get it off, go over the walls with a de-glosser, then a strong solution of t.s.p. (tri sodium phosphate) wear rubber gloves) and hot water. its a lot of work, but it gets the job done. i evicted a couple last year just like yours. what a mess. i run credit and criminal background checks and check references. ya cant weed em all out. my worst was a hoarder.......oh my Gosh!!! was that a mess.
 
(quoted from post at 17:46:35 02/09/14) The wax (crayon) has to be removed completely. Light sanding until all traces are gone. Several coats of primer might cover the marker.


HTH

Areo
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This is the correct answer, because the crayon is on such a large surface. If it was a smaller area trying to chemically remove the crayon would be OK but at this point, redoing the whole house is the way to go (remember, time is money even if its your own time).

Sand everything, skim coat everything, texture everything and paint everything. Assuming 1000 sq foot house: First day 4-6 hours sanding everything down and start mudding. Second day: finish mudding... and start drinking (it is a short day anyway, 4 hours tops). Third day: wake up hungover, realize it dont pay to get mad and drunk... move on with life and fixing things. Spray tex the house and paint. 3 days (2 1/2 but you got drunk) and about a grand to fix things. Just remember, it could be worse. And when you are done, its all the same eggshell color and the texture is all the same that you did yourself so future repairs will easily match (thats worth something).

*Walk away mumbling "It could be worse.... it could be worse"*
 
Agree about the hair spary make sure its the cheap kind in can use it on the areas even if you have aready painted. Then follow up with the shellac primer like bins by zinner the longer your let It dry the better my need many coats like a day min.
 
Who do you use for your back ground checks? Everyone I have tried doesn't seem to have good or current information.
Bill
 
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