Chipotle ad Farmed and Dangerous

dcarp

Well-known Member

I am outraged by Chipotle's latest attack on American Farmers and Ranchers, "Farmed and Dangerous." This crassly self serving commercial series portrays the American agricultural community as mad scientists producing a dangerous product. As any of you familiar with American agriculture know, nothing could be further from the truth. American Farmers and Ranchers take great pride in producing a safe, healthy and affordable product. Agriculture is the way of life this country was founded upon and to allow Chipotle to besmirch this way of life is unthinkable. If the American Farmer and Rancher go out of business, millions, if not billions, of people world wide would perish from hunger. Furthermore, this country would collapse without the agriculture business.
I urge you to boycott Chipotle and make known to them that you greatly resent their repeated attacks on the American Farmer and Rancher.

Sorry, guys I don't get on the soapbox often but those Chipotle ads made me do it.
 
(quoted from post at 11:04:49 01/31/14)
I am outraged by Chipotle's latest attack on American Farmers and Ranchers, "Farmed and Dangerous." This crassly self serving commercial series portrays the American agricultural community as mad scientists producing a dangerous product. As any of you familiar with American agriculture know, nothing could be further from the truth. American Farmers and Ranchers take great pride in producing a safe, healthy and affordable product. Agriculture is the way of life this country was founded upon and to allow Chipotle to besmirch this way of life is unthinkable. If the American Farmer and Rancher go out of business, millions, if not billions, of people world wide would perish from hunger. Furthermore, this country would collapse without the agriculture business.
I urge you to boycott Chipotle and make known to them that you greatly resent their repeated attacks on the American Farmer and Rancher.

Sorry, guys I don't get on the soapbox often but those Chipotle ads made me do it.

And they are safe? The American AG and Chemical companies? The ones pushing GMO's and all the chemicals? So without proof ONE WAY OR THE OTHER (Studies from both sides are not conclusive at this time) what does that make the farmer who believes it's safe only because of bottom line? If it isn't proven 100% safe then it's the farmer who is indeed being the mad scientist with people lives. Now I'm not taking a side here GMO/non-GMO. I'm just stating the fact that no one is 100% sure. Monsanto is 100% sure if you don't buy their stuff they go broke. Cargill is 100% sure if you don't buy their stuff they go broke. But no one is 100% sure if GMO's are dangerous or not. And lets not forget the organic people. They are 100% sure that if you don't buy their stuff they will have to get a real job.

The world would starve if the American farmer shut down? Really? You honestly believe that? Get on line and look up what countries export foods, like beef, wheat, and other staples before you start on the "we feed the world kick". In fact look up just how much meat and milk we IMPORT into the US. Yes there would be some food shortages if the American farmers shut down but the whole world would not starve. Not even close.

Rick
 
While the chain is based in Mexico they buy most of their food supply for the restaurants in the country they are in
ie: US Chipotle restaurants buy US produced food.
They buy vegetables from many of the same suppliers as McDonalds, Burger King, etc.
In short they are buying from the very people they attack in the ads all in the hope of promoting their image of "healthy"
 
If you read a little closer you would have seen I did not say the whole world would starve, just a portion. True many other country's are large producers but they certainly are not as efficient and could never make up for our production loss. The rest of the world only produces a portion of what is needed. What happens when supply goes down? Price goes up. Huge portions of the world & here in the US also, many people struggle to afford enough food for their family at today's prices.

My last words on the subject because you & B&D are just alike, the only 2 men in the world with ALL the correct facts and ALL the knowledge. Must be a terrible burden
 
Every Chipotle I ever been in was full of metrosexual urban men. They wouldn't know a farm if it was dropped on them. These are the people who pay 10x more for 100% organic food at Whole Food Stores. Not saying anything is wrong with healthy food, but they tend to take it to a whole new level. Chipotle is just speaking to their target audience.
 
Mexico? Not even close... the first one was opened in Denver, CO (that's USA to the geographically challenged) in a former Dolly Madison ice cream shop. If you want to complain, and we should, do it to the corporate HQ. I never liked boycotts, they just hurt the honest working people in those places.
 
(quoted from post at 11:53:11 01/31/14) If you read a little closer you would have seen I did not say the whole world would starve, just a portion. True many other country's are large producers but they certainly are not as efficient and could never make up for our production loss. The rest of the world only produces a portion of what is needed. What happens when supply goes down? Price goes up. Huge portions of the world & here in the US also, many people struggle to afford enough food for their family at today's prices.

My last words on the subject because you & B&D are just alike, the only 2 men in the world with ALL the correct facts and ALL the knowledge. Must be a terrible burden

Oh I don't know about that. It was you who said "millions if not billions". I could go with the millions. And the American farmer isn't going to quit anytime soon sow why even bring that up? I here I feel that you and B&D are brothers. Every time this comes up you go out of your way to justify GMO's and chemicals from what I've seen. I have a natural attitude about them and don't know for sure just how safe they really are, or are not and no one else really does. I love pointing out that we, the American farmer doesn't feed the world because we don't. I really doubt at this point in time if we could. I do know that long before GMO's the government was buying surplus to keep prices up and what they couldn't give away as aid to other nations they destroyed. So I figure that if all the farm land that was in production in the 60's and 70's were put back into production in non GMO crops we would have a surplus again.

I really hate being forced to put something in my gas tank as a back door subsidy for corn growers too. But that's a different subject.

If for a large part me using facts bothers you then so be it. I could really care less.

Rick
 
for lots of years we have heard many of these counties produce enough to feed thier people but because of politics and lack of transportation the food doesn't get to where it is needed most.
as to organic who wants to eat apple that looks like it is wormy?
 
I think we need a group hug.



I think the biggest thing to be taken away from this is that a company is using an attack campaign to negatively portray a group or industry.


I never liked the negative attacks. It always bothers me in November, and it always bothered me when X brand truck, or X brand tractor would attack Y and Z brand trucks or tractors to make themselves look better. The best way to make yourself look better is to be honest and have a good product you stand behind (manure spreaders excluded)

I'm proud of any and every farmer who says, I don't need subsidies or government mandates. You'd think I, for one, would be happy as a clam about the Renewable Fuels Standard. I am not. I wish it would go away. I don't want Uncle Sam telling me what I have to burn in my car or truck. I also don't want people to go plowing up golf courses to plant corn because the price is unnaturally high. All that does is cause grief and Bill Nye the science guy to attack farmers for polluting and causes problems for the whole industry.

Technology is a wonderful thing, and I would love to make 400 bushel per acre. I just don't want to become a marked man in order to do it. The more irresponsibility that exists only breeds more regulation, which in turn hurts everyone.
 
Not saying they don't throw me in to a fit of rage too,but it's no different than Whole Foods implying that what they sell is healthy and anything else will kill you. Same extremist B.S.. No point singling out one business when there are a bushel basket of them.
 
One should never ever bad mouth a farmer - rancher while one's mouth is full. If it was not for a farmer - rancher what would this company have to offer there customers???? You tell me !!!!!
 
Well I'm a farmer and it doesn't throw me into a rage because I agree with some of what they say.
Farmers that blindly follow the USDA/Industrial Ag
claims are just as ignorant/stupid as the folks that blindly follow the other side.Neither side really knows for sure what is safe and what isn't but I'd rather error on the safe side which is why I grow most fruits and vegetables I eat along with most of the meat I eat so I can have it to suit myself.Anyway no one is going to starve if one farmer quits or dies there are at least a dozen fighting over his/her land before the funeral.The 'farmers are gonna quit farming and everyone will starve' is about the dumbest argument I know of.
 
Thank you Tractor Vet! You seem to one of the few who grasped what I was trying to point out, the bad mouthing of Farmers and Ranchers.
As usual the self appointed fact experts came out and changed the subject to GMA & GMO.
 
(quoted from post at 17:18:13 01/31/14) Thank you Tractor Vet! You seem to one of the few who grasped what I was trying to point out, the bad mouthing of Farmers and Ranchers.
As usual the self appointed fact experts came out and changed the subject to GMA & GMO.

Who's claiming to be an expert? I said there is no proof that they are/are not safe. Until they are proven to be 100% safe I'm not going to bash anyone who thinks they may not be. They may be right. Once proven, by independent studies, to be safe I will not question them. Until then I believe that anyone growing them is [b:b55de356e7]potentially[/b:b55de356e7] playing with others lives without realizing it. All over bottom line.

I attended a lecture with my wife while she was attending college given by a science professor who claimed he had been doing a study on GMO safety at a university funded by Monsanto. He claimed that funding was pulled because Monsanto didn't like the results he was getting. Do I believe this guy? I believe he's an organic nut. I think he really believed what he was saying. But I want to see proof. Surely there are documents that he should be able to produce to prove his story. My wife believes him 100%, I'm skeptical. I think he was pushing his agenda. You know Monsanto will deny any knowledge, the college isn't going to turn anything over that could prove complicity, so all we have is this guys word? Sorry I want proof. Do I think it was [u:b55de356e7]possible[/u:b55de356e7]? Yes. I don't put anything past big business.

Rick
 
Curious about this idea you have about others being "not as efficient" as we are. If we are so efficient why do we need all these subsidies ? Are you under the impression that a farmer in East Timor or the Sudan gets any kind of price supports or disaster payments ?
 
(quoted from post at 20:32:38 01/31/14) I was just wondering how do you prove any food 100% safe?

Frank, really you don't if you add in over eating and contamination/spoilage. But if you modify a plant to where there may be long term effects then we need to be aware that there may be something there. It's one thing if something goes to market that was accidentally contaminated, it's another if the item may cause you harm without being contaminated if consumed in a normal manner.

Rick
 
In the end it doesn't matter what the suppliers(farmers) want its the consumers that will determine what is grown and eaten and whats left in the dust of history.And anyone that keeps up with consumers eating and buying habits these days
knows that they are wanting food with no GMOs,no growth hormones,no antibiotics fed on a regular basis etc etc.The customer really is always King when it come to anything.In my area farmers markets selling mostly orgainc and none chemical grown foods are packed and having to expand,several organic grocery stores do a brisk buisness and the regular grocery stores have well labeled Organic sections.You don't see any store with GMO/pesticide/herbicide grown labeled sections.The handwriting is on the wall for those that can read it.
 
Just like General Mills several weeks ago announcing they would no longer use GMO oats in Cheerios. Problem is there is no such thing as GMO oats.
 
That video is as dumb as the reaily Shows on tv but whats bad is very few people know any thing about farming any more and may belive that crap
 
Y'all completely missed the point.

First off, Chipotle is certainly not against American agriculture. It would be pretty difficult for them to take that position, given that they serve up many tons of beans, tortillas, beef, pork and chicken every year. They DO, however, make a point to get their meat and produce from small-scale, local farms whenever possible. Explain to me how this is AGAINST American Farmers? When I think of American farming and ranching, I like to think of family-owned operations, not huge corporate-owned factory farms. Now if you think big factory pig farms that dump tons of sewage into rivers are the way we ought to go, well let's just say I disagree and leave it at that.

As for the "ad", from what I can see it's not an ad for Chipotle at all, but cable TV series they made and sponsored. So they want to poke a little fun at factory farms, is that so bad? From what I've been told by friends who work in a factory pig farm, the reality is quite a bit worse than the exploding cow joke in Chipotle's film.

Now you don't have to watch the show if you don't want to. I don't expect to waste my time on it. And you don't have to dine at Chipotle, either. They make a decent burrito, but nothing special.

Take a look at what Chipotle says about farming on their web site before you pass judgement.
Food with integrity
 
Most of the orgainc grow stuff is priced way over reg stuff and there are a lot folks out there that can't pay for it. that is your chose it cost way more to grow orgainc as you need to weed by hand cost money to hire people
 
The trouble is some hippie hollywood celebrity gets onto something like that, then you have situations like Oprah and beef in the 90s, farrowing crates being banned, complete lack of management of publicly owned lands, all because people heard it's bad to do otherwise from some cluless dipwad celebrity who heard from someone like PETA or HSUS and no one with any actual science or experience behind them.
 

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