I've got a road trip for this weekend heading south from SD. Temps supposed to be in the 30's for Friday but falling to a high of -8 for Sunday when I return. I have blended fuel that is supposed to be good for -30 in the Dodge Cummins now and usually just burn that with out anything added. Not knowing what kind of fuel I will be getting along the way I am concerned about heading back north to the cold. What are you guys running for anti gel additives?
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fixerupper
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Howes seems to be the legend in these parts (NWIA). I'm sure there are other brands out there that work well too. Jim
truckstops usually have unblended fuel. sapp bros has no. 1 pumps at some of it's truckstops to blend your own. otherwise most small town coop's have blended fuel. leave the high priced additives on the shelf. if you over treat, the gel point goes back up again and if you under treat the gel point doesn't get where you want it to. don't forget to ask if fuel in the pump your buying from has been treated at the terminal, it's matters bigtime on the amount of additive you need. todays low sulpur diesel isn't like your dad's diesel. total different ballgame.
Anonymous-0
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the Stanadyne performance additive is one of the best (blue bottle) Howes is also ok. Use Power Service if you like buying injection pumps. A VP44 pump for a Cummins is over $1400 my cost.Fot those of you don't think PS is bad call DK Dsl. in Watertown, SD and tell Rex or Monte that they don't know what they are talking about. Ph.# is 605-886-2750
Anonymous-0
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you are braver than me, I have 30% #1 and Stanadyne in my Dodge
I run Howes, pretty much tear round. I screwed up early this winter, and didn't have enough in my 06 Cummins. Plugged the fuel filter up, but at -26 and not letting the motor warm up real well, it was kinda my fault. Of course it also helps if you change the fuel filter more then once every 3 years. 
showcrop
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Here in the Northeast everyone runs Power Service. Stay away from Howes, it is for south of South Dakota only. You don't say how far south you are going , but if I were headed very far south and returning I would be checking ahead with 2-3 oil companies to see how far south their fuel is blended and be sure to not purchase any that would still be in my tank when I get back north again.
johndeere720diesel
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I run power service never had a problem. Also seeing as a truck at work gelled in north or south Dakota don't remember which yesterday with Howes and some cheap crap the company buys and was a very heavy dose of both. Also the tow truck driver says he has seen Howes freeze solid and blow the cap off of the bottle so run whatever you'd like but I wouldn't count on Howes
4020deereboy
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I run straight number 2 we get temps as low as 40 below and I've never gelled up I run a double dose of power service . But don't ya know there is no need for additives after all the fuel companies add everything youll ever need in your fuel
I've used power service for a long time, we never had any problems with it in a Ford 4600, 4610, 1720 and my Ford power stroke 7.3. I've also used napa diesel fuel conditioner, no problems, and never a Injector pump problem with power service, I have no idea what the guy below is blowing off about.
Mark - IN.
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There was a fella here a couple of weeks ago that ripped everyone and anyone that puts additive in our diesel. I use either PowerSource or Howes all year long in my trucks and tractors. Nothing like limping into a truck stop to toss in some "PowerSource 911" because didn't treat ahead of time and had the temps nose dive to about 0 or below, and an engine that is barely running puts out no heat as well. That makes for a slow, painful ride where someone bigger might run up and over you before they know it. Been there, done that, will never do again. Never again, ever. PS or Howes ALL year long, every tank in the trucks or tractors on the hottest and coldest days, period.
Good luck. Have a safe, enjoyable trip.
Mark
Good luck. Have a safe, enjoyable trip.
Mark
Mark - IN.
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I'm sorry, PowerService not PowerSource. My brain is frozen.
BushogPapa
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It makes a big difference if you can close it up with a full "Winter-front"..
Anything to trap engine heat in will help..
I never like to see those white flakes forming in the fueltank..!!
Ron..
T in NE
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What area are you going through? If you're getting as far south as McCook, fuel at the Sinclair, not the co-op. The co-ops distributor will only allow them to blend 70/30. Sinclair blends 50/50. The Co-op in Maywood also blends 50/50 and is only about 3/4 mile off the highway.
Straw Boss
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Howes is supposedly ok IF and I mean IF you are running #2 fuel. If you dump it in a tank of #1 it will turn to snot at the bottom of the tank and plug your filters over and over again. DO NOT DO IT! A few years ago the route driver put it in the bulk tanks all summer as he filled as a service to the customer. Come winter and #1 fuel, EVERYONE had trouble. Bad batch everyone thought. Come to find out the molecular bond it uses to condition your fuel is not possible in #1 as the molecules its looking for is absent in #1. Therefore, it just turns to snot and settles to the bottom. The more trouble guys had with tractors gelling, the more they were putting in, making it worse. What a mess. No fun changing fuel filters on a loader tractor all winter long. Never again! I still have a whole case of the stuff and still can't get the nerve to put it in my summer fuel even though it should be fine in #2. Bad memories.
rodgernbama
Member
I use Howes. Good stuff.
TGP
Member
Power Service "Suplement"(white bottle) for over 40 years No Problem.
When below 10 Deg. F. double dose.
Or use Power Service "Artic Express" (Blue Bottle)
Power Service "911"(Red Bottle) No Good for general treatment.
It's only used after the Fuel has gelled.
Yes newer diesel have fuel filter heaters.
Fuel still needs to be treated after 10 deg. to stay safe.
Tom
T in NE
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- Location
- Cambridge, Nebraska
About how it goes. I've seen Power Service freeze. When I spilled it. Yet it was still liquid in the bottle, that I had just picked up out of the back of the pick-up.
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