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To buy one sued I would check out arms list sort of like Craig's list but for guns. Good and sort of cheap ones are the older H&R/New England arms
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Revolver or auto has to be up to you. I have an auto that I really like that replaced a revolver that I really liked. The Auto was a gift and I didn't need 2 so I gave one to a son.
The Ruger Single Six (revolver) and Mark (auto loader) series are good guns at reasonable new pricing IMO. Some of the old High Standards are good guns and can be inexpensive to pick up used. Plus you have others from makers like Colt too.
You should look at several then ask if anyone owns them and what they think.
Gunbroker dot com is a good place to look for a used one. Keep in mind that they will be shipped from an FFL holder to an FFL holder and various state and federal laws will be adhered to, to include a NICs check.
Rick
The Ruger Single Six (revolver) and Mark (auto loader) series are good guns at reasonable new pricing IMO. Some of the old High Standards are good guns and can be inexpensive to pick up used. Plus you have others from makers like Colt too.
You should look at several then ask if anyone owns them and what they think.
Gunbroker dot com is a good place to look for a used one. Keep in mind that they will be shipped from an FFL holder to an FFL holder and various state and federal laws will be adhered to, to include a NICs check.
Rick
Want one for target and hunting? Recommend either Browning Buckmark or Ruger Mark vii. 6" Barrel. Both are autos. Will handle even the cheap 22 long rifle shells and are equally accurate. Browning fit me better so that is the one I got. Shoot kernels of corn at about 30 feet. Had it almost 20 years now. Both are about $250 new.
GeneMO
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Not to be picky, but a "pistol" is generally a semi-automatic handgun, where as a Revolver is, well, a revolver. As a group they would all be called "handguns"
No dont jump my case, I said that was being picky.
I have both, but my best, and favorite is the Ruger Single six revolver. I think it comes in two barrel lengths 5 1/2 and 6 1/2". It is a six shot revolver and will shoot shorts, longs, and long rifles. Plus, most came new with a .22 magnum cylinder. Just pop out the regular cylinder and put in the .22 mag for a more souped up, magnum round. But the .22 magnums are quite a bit more expensive. You can't beat the .22 long rifle revolver. It never fails, never jams, and is just fun to shoot.
But there are tons of other, good revolvers out there. Iver Johnson, H&R, etc. Some are 9 shot revolvers, others may be 5 shot.
A semi auto is a little more prone to jam, plus you have to be carefull, since it is always loaded after being fired, and maybe not as safe.
Gene
No dont jump my case, I said that was being picky.
I have both, but my best, and favorite is the Ruger Single six revolver. I think it comes in two barrel lengths 5 1/2 and 6 1/2". It is a six shot revolver and will shoot shorts, longs, and long rifles. Plus, most came new with a .22 magnum cylinder. Just pop out the regular cylinder and put in the .22 mag for a more souped up, magnum round. But the .22 magnums are quite a bit more expensive. You can't beat the .22 long rifle revolver. It never fails, never jams, and is just fun to shoot.
But there are tons of other, good revolvers out there. Iver Johnson, H&R, etc. Some are 9 shot revolvers, others may be 5 shot.
A semi auto is a little more prone to jam, plus you have to be carefull, since it is always loaded after being fired, and maybe not as safe.
Gene
notjustair
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I have a Ruger 357 that I really like. Bought it to carry in the tool boxes on tractors and such. However, if you haven't had a handgun before you should think about what you are going to do with it. I think I am a fair shot but it takes a few "air balls" to hit things at a distance. It's nice to carry, but you won't be hitting a coyote in the pasture with it unless it is too close anyway.
The best thing to do is shoot and handle a few. I
have a Taurus revolver and a ruger sr22 semi-auto.
Like both of them for separate reasons. There are
two dealers in my area that will let you shoot them
in their ranges as long as you buy their ammo. Semi-
autos can be picky on ammo(jam), while revolvers
will shoot anything.
have a Taurus revolver and a ruger sr22 semi-auto.
Like both of them for separate reasons. There are
two dealers in my area that will let you shoot them
in their ranges as long as you buy their ammo. Semi-
autos can be picky on ammo(jam), while revolvers
will shoot anything.
Fordfarmer
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I'd suggest a Ruger Mark II if looking for used, or
the Mark III if looking at new. They have several
variations, with different grips, barrel lengths and
contours, etc. Mine is a 10" bull barrel with target
sights. As long as I do my part, it will hit bunny-
sized targets to 50 yards or more. Very, very few
jams in many thousands of rounds.
the Mark III if looking at new. They have several
variations, with different grips, barrel lengths and
contours, etc. Mine is a 10" bull barrel with target
sights. As long as I do my part, it will hit bunny-
sized targets to 50 yards or more. Very, very few
jams in many thousands of rounds.
Walt Davies
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Want accuracy at 100 yards get T/C Contender. I have 5
different barrels for mine from 17 cal to a 30/30 which kicks
like a mule. They come in a lot of different stiles. All are single
shot but when you can shoot beer cans at 100 yards you don't
need to shoot fast. Mi 17/223 will bring down a small pig at 50
yards with one shot.
Don't shoots squirts if you want to eat them there won't be
much left. They are not cheap but are garranteed for the life of
the gun which could be forever even you buy second hand.
Try one to see if you like it, I'm sure you will be very surprised
at how accurate they are.
Walt
different barrels for mine from 17 cal to a 30/30 which kicks
like a mule. They come in a lot of different stiles. All are single
shot but when you can shoot beer cans at 100 yards you don't
need to shoot fast. Mi 17/223 will bring down a small pig at 50
yards with one shot.
Don't shoots squirts if you want to eat them there won't be
much left. They are not cheap but are garranteed for the life of
the gun which could be forever even you buy second hand.
Try one to see if you like it, I'm sure you will be very surprised
at how accurate they are.
Walt
Anonymous-0
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Make sure you can get some ammo. Very short supply , at least in our area.
Dean Olson
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I have a Ruger 10/22 carbine that I use for most all my plinking
and general varmint control. The base model can be bought
new for around $200 new. I just bought one in Sheels for $199.
These rifles are the best bang for the buck.
The pistols are going to be double that.
I know you asked about pistols. I have a Ruger Mark 2 semi
auto that I like. Also have a Ruger Single Six revolver. My
newest is a Ruger stainless Single 10 that is really nice. It's
my new favorite. They are pricey at $525.
and general varmint control. The base model can be bought
new for around $200 new. I just bought one in Sheels for $199.
These rifles are the best bang for the buck.
The pistols are going to be double that.
I know you asked about pistols. I have a Ruger Mark 2 semi
auto that I like. Also have a Ruger Single Six revolver. My
newest is a Ruger stainless Single 10 that is really nice. It's
my new favorite. They are pricey at $525.
In a pistol it's pretty hard to beat any of the Ruger autos. I have a bull barreled 22/45 that is the only gun I've seen even come close to my FILs High Standard Supermatic. You'd be best to try handling them to see what appeals to you. Browning, Walther, Colt and several other companies have made nice autos over he years, as has Smith and Wesson.
In a double action revolver Smith is the standard and hard to beat. I have the 22 Kit Gun that's been a real fine shooter. I've dispatched several coyotes at ranges out to 40ish yards on the trap line. I also have a K22 and M48 22 mag. The K framed 22's are superb shooters in good hands and the quality is...well, they're Smiths! I've also shot a few Colts in 22 that were nice, a High Standard Sentinel, one of the later models that was a really nice shooter. I've shot and owned a few Iver Johnsons and H&R's that were good shooters and few that weren't. I don;t think I've ever shot a 22 Taurus, but some folks report good success while others won't ahve anything to do with them.
In a single action Ruger is about the most readily found. I've not seen any Single Six 22's that I'd call really accurate, but that may just be my bad luck. I have shot a Colt New Frontier (IIRC) that was quite accurate and sort of regret not buying it. There are a few other makes floating around- there's one called a Rough rider that is an economy gun but has a good rep among local trappers as a decent shooter.
I'd suggest handling and shooting as many guns as you can and deciding after some reflection. I'm a died in the wool DA revolver man, but in 22's I can swing either way and be perfectly happy.
In a double action revolver Smith is the standard and hard to beat. I have the 22 Kit Gun that's been a real fine shooter. I've dispatched several coyotes at ranges out to 40ish yards on the trap line. I also have a K22 and M48 22 mag. The K framed 22's are superb shooters in good hands and the quality is...well, they're Smiths! I've also shot a few Colts in 22 that were nice, a High Standard Sentinel, one of the later models that was a really nice shooter. I've shot and owned a few Iver Johnsons and H&R's that were good shooters and few that weren't. I don;t think I've ever shot a 22 Taurus, but some folks report good success while others won't ahve anything to do with them.
In a single action Ruger is about the most readily found. I've not seen any Single Six 22's that I'd call really accurate, but that may just be my bad luck. I have shot a Colt New Frontier (IIRC) that was quite accurate and sort of regret not buying it. There are a few other makes floating around- there's one called a Rough rider that is an economy gun but has a good rep among local trappers as a decent shooter.
I'd suggest handling and shooting as many guns as you can and deciding after some reflection. I'm a died in the wool DA revolver man, but in 22's I can swing either way and be perfectly happy.
None of the Rugers I have ever purchased have said anything about a lifetime warranty. It is rare that they don't take care of a problem if one arises though. They were kind enough to print a paragraph of warning label on the barrel though.
If I was in the market for a new 22 pistol, I would be looking for the oldest Ruger I could find. I have an early 70 Ruger standard that is by far my most accurate handgun. It easily holds a 1" 10 shot group at 50 yards with good ammo(Winchester T22 or better).
If you want a revolver, just spend the money and buy a S&W. Every other 22 revolver is a heap of junk in comparison. I went through 3-4 guns before I finally spent the money on an old K22, 6" from the 50s. Shortly thereafter I bought a 4" K-617.
Fawteen
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[i:654c4848f0]If you want a revolver, just spend the money
and buy a S&W. Every other 22 revolver is a heap
of junk in comparison. I went through 3-4 guns
before I finally spent the money on an old K22, 6"
from the 50s. Shortly thereafter I bought a 4" K-
617. [/i:654c4848f0]
While I'm as much an S&W fan as anyone and have a
couple, I'd hardly call the Ruger Single Six,
Bearcat, GP100, or Colt Diamondback "a heap of
junk".
There certainly ARE cheaply made .22's out there
that should, IMO, be avoided. JP Sauer and
Heritage come to mind. Never been too impressed
by the older H&R either. Taurus seems to be
wildly variable. Some folks get a good one and
like them. I owned one briefly and shot another
one and I wouldn't have used either of them for a
paper weight.
and buy a S&W. Every other 22 revolver is a heap
of junk in comparison. I went through 3-4 guns
before I finally spent the money on an old K22, 6"
from the 50s. Shortly thereafter I bought a 4" K-
617. [/i:654c4848f0]
While I'm as much an S&W fan as anyone and have a
couple, I'd hardly call the Ruger Single Six,
Bearcat, GP100, or Colt Diamondback "a heap of
junk".
There certainly ARE cheaply made .22's out there
that should, IMO, be avoided. JP Sauer and
Heritage come to mind. Never been too impressed
by the older H&R either. Taurus seems to be
wildly variable. Some folks get a good one and
like them. I owned one briefly and shot another
one and I wouldn't have used either of them for a
paper weight.
I have these three autos and they are fine shooters and will appreciate in value more than most.
Colt Woodsman. Get one with wood grips from the 70's
Browning Challenger II auto. Again the blue model with wood grips cica 1980.
High Standard Supermatic Military Citation.
Feels like a Colt 1911 45 in your hand.
Colt Woodsman. Get one with wood grips from the 70's
Browning Challenger II auto. Again the blue model with wood grips cica 1980.
High Standard Supermatic Military Citation.
Feels like a Colt 1911 45 in your hand.
Paul from MI
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I have two .22 pistols I consider very good, reliable, accurate guns. I shot them for many years in competition, so both have over 20,000 rounds thru them. The first is an old Ruger MarkI target, only modified by the addition of a Clark trigger. The other is a High-Standard Military Citation bull barrel, with some trigger work and a set of custom grips. Both have served me well over the years with no problems, just normal cleaning and maintenance. I'd recommend either one if you can find them, no experience with the newer models on the market.
Goose
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Case in point, I have a 9mm auto (I won't mention the brand) that is flawless magazine after magazine with Remington ammo. Shoot Winchester ammo in it and I can guarantee it will "stovepipe" on the last round every time.
Never bothered to figure it out. The obvious solution is to not put Winchester ammo in it.
Never bothered to figure it out. The obvious solution is to not put Winchester ammo in it.
I agree with others on the Ruger, but am only familiar with the older ones. I assume the newer models are just as good if not better.
side note - big thing I like about 22 pistols in general, aside from the price of ammunition is they teach you to shoot without flinching.
I'm not sure I've ever fired a non-auto 22 pistol, but I know the autos are like shooting a pellet gun = just so smooth.
If I start developing a little flinch from firing a larger caliber, a few dozen rounds through the ruger helps.
I'm sure there are other good ones out there, but I don't think you'd ever regret going with a ruger - used or otherwise.
side note - big thing I like about 22 pistols in general, aside from the price of ammunition is they teach you to shoot without flinching.
I'm not sure I've ever fired a non-auto 22 pistol, but I know the autos are like shooting a pellet gun = just so smooth.
If I start developing a little flinch from firing a larger caliber, a few dozen rounds through the ruger helps.
I'm sure there are other good ones out there, but I don't think you'd ever regret going with a ruger - used or otherwise.
Your are talking pistol and for accuracy and dependability its hard to beat Browning, Ruger, older Colts and some of the old Hi Standards.In single action 22 cal revolvers Ruger is hard to beat and if you get a 22 cal. convertable the mag. cylinder will be more accuract than the long rifle cylinder. In double action revolvers I prefer S&W ( Mod. 63) and Colt Diamondback. Won't have a Ruger or Taurus don't like the way they handle and perform. As far as buying new or used I would by used if I could find a good used gun at the right price. You can find new and used at gun shops or online( online you will have to go through a gun shop or someone that has a Federal Firearms License).
Hal/ Eastern WA
Member
When I was younger, I hit many ground squirrels with my S&W .38 "combat masterpiece" revolver. I also tried various semi-auto pistols of various calibers, but could never hit squirrels as well with the autoloaders as I could with that revolver. I never have owned a .22 handgun that was very accurate, but there may be some good ones out there.
But over the years, I have got kind of shaky, and shooting any handgun at anything but short distances doesn"t work very well anymore. Now if I want to kill a varmint I usually use a 12 gauge shotgun. The shotgun is almost always successful at the distances I shoot, and I don"t have to worry that much about a round ricocheting or carrying and maybe causing me trouble with neighbors. My area has got lots more populated over the last 25 years. It is not like it was when I was a kid and would shoot magpies from inside our house by opening my bedroom window.
I can still shoot a rifle pretty well, but seldom do, considering that there are houses and other people around.
Have you tried to buy .22 shells recently? I always kept a good supply of shells over the years, but last year I found that I was down to under 100 rounds left. I went to several stores, but was told that they didn"t have ANY .22 long rifle shells and didn"t expect any soon. I finally was able to buy a couple of boxes, but they were $5/box, and they would only sell me two! Lucky I don"t shoot much any more...when I was a kid, sometimes I would shoot that many in a day. Makes you wonder what the future of marksmanship will be.
If you are shooting at varmints for fun and marksmanship practice, a handgun might be an OK choice. I would suggest getting the best one you can find, as the cheapies are not all that accurate or consistant. On the other hand, if you are trying to get rid of varmints, a rifle is WAY more accurate than a handgun at all but fairly close distances. And a shotgun is very effective up to about 50 or 60 yards.
Be careful and have fun. Good luck!
But over the years, I have got kind of shaky, and shooting any handgun at anything but short distances doesn"t work very well anymore. Now if I want to kill a varmint I usually use a 12 gauge shotgun. The shotgun is almost always successful at the distances I shoot, and I don"t have to worry that much about a round ricocheting or carrying and maybe causing me trouble with neighbors. My area has got lots more populated over the last 25 years. It is not like it was when I was a kid and would shoot magpies from inside our house by opening my bedroom window.
I can still shoot a rifle pretty well, but seldom do, considering that there are houses and other people around.
Have you tried to buy .22 shells recently? I always kept a good supply of shells over the years, but last year I found that I was down to under 100 rounds left. I went to several stores, but was told that they didn"t have ANY .22 long rifle shells and didn"t expect any soon. I finally was able to buy a couple of boxes, but they were $5/box, and they would only sell me two! Lucky I don"t shoot much any more...when I was a kid, sometimes I would shoot that many in a day. Makes you wonder what the future of marksmanship will be.
If you are shooting at varmints for fun and marksmanship practice, a handgun might be an OK choice. I would suggest getting the best one you can find, as the cheapies are not all that accurate or consistant. On the other hand, if you are trying to get rid of varmints, a rifle is WAY more accurate than a handgun at all but fairly close distances. And a shotgun is very effective up to about 50 or 60 yards.
Be careful and have fun. Good luck!
spacecadet9
Member
Since you have no experience with firearms a single action (cock the hammer to fire) revolver would be safer.
Guess I'll throw my 2 cents worth in on this too. If your inexperienced then a revolver is definitely the easiest to learn. By learn I mean every gun owner should know how to properly disassemble/field strip their gun to clean, and what to do should you experience any problems when your shooting. That being the case a revolver is, by far, the best gun for someone new to firearms.
Now if you want to go with a good automatic, the Walther P22 is a great little pistol. I got my wife one about a year ago, and she's deadly with it. Even my 11 year old daughter can keep all her shots on the target and that's just on her second time shooting it. It's a bit of a PITA to field trip and reassemble, but it's a really nice shooting gun. Unlike many autos the barrel is fixed to the frame instead of floating within the slide. As a result it is alot easier to shoot accurately than many of the others.
Beyond that, all of the other brands and Models listed thus far are great handguns also. Personally I don't think you'd go wrong with any of them.
As far as buying new-vs-used, if you can get a good price then new is the way to go. One thing you'll find in the current market is that if the gun your looking for is considered popular, or a 'classic'/'collectible' then the price will be reflected accordingly in the used arena. In fact there are still folks out there trying to get prices for their used guns that are higher than most folks can get them new for with a little shopping around.
That all said, given the scarcity, an cost of .22 ammo at the moment, have you given a thought to any other caliber? If you look into anything else, then about the best one to look into is 9mm. I can't think of any revolvers chambered for that round, but the list of autos is nearly endless.
Beyond my recommendation on the Walther, again, all of the brands listed thus far make great pistols. Ultimately when your looking, if you find something you like, let us know on here. I'm sure someone will either have had direct experience with the model in question, or probably know someone else that did.
Now if you want to go with a good automatic, the Walther P22 is a great little pistol. I got my wife one about a year ago, and she's deadly with it. Even my 11 year old daughter can keep all her shots on the target and that's just on her second time shooting it. It's a bit of a PITA to field trip and reassemble, but it's a really nice shooting gun. Unlike many autos the barrel is fixed to the frame instead of floating within the slide. As a result it is alot easier to shoot accurately than many of the others.
Beyond that, all of the other brands and Models listed thus far are great handguns also. Personally I don't think you'd go wrong with any of them.
As far as buying new-vs-used, if you can get a good price then new is the way to go. One thing you'll find in the current market is that if the gun your looking for is considered popular, or a 'classic'/'collectible' then the price will be reflected accordingly in the used arena. In fact there are still folks out there trying to get prices for their used guns that are higher than most folks can get them new for with a little shopping around.
That all said, given the scarcity, an cost of .22 ammo at the moment, have you given a thought to any other caliber? If you look into anything else, then about the best one to look into is 9mm. I can't think of any revolvers chambered for that round, but the list of autos is nearly endless.
Beyond my recommendation on the Walther, again, all of the brands listed thus far make great pistols. Ultimately when your looking, if you find something you like, let us know on here. I'm sure someone will either have had direct experience with the model in question, or probably know someone else that did.
DaninKansas
Member
Agreed, the only manufacturer I know that guarentees for life is HiPoint - and their warranty is the best in the business. All you need is enough to identify it as a HiPoint and they'll rebuild or replace it. I know of firearms that have gone through a house fire and they replaced.
Sean Feeney
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DaninKansas
Member
Actually the new Heritage revolvers are quite nice - especially for the price. How they stand up to 1000s of rounds being shot through them has yet to been seen.
The Taurus Tracker model is a great revolver. Kind of reminds me of an updated Ruger Security Six - only in more calibers. Overkill in design for a 22, possibly a bit light mechanics for a 44 Mag.
http://www.taurususa.com/gun-selector-results.cfm?series=TS2&toggle=
The Taurus Tracker model is a great revolver. Kind of reminds me of an updated Ruger Security Six - only in more calibers. Overkill in design for a 22, possibly a bit light mechanics for a 44 Mag.
http://www.taurususa.com/gun-selector-results.cfm?series=TS2&toggle=
I, and both of my sons own a single action .22 / .22mag revolver named "Heritage". They are very accurate; simple; and not as pricey as most of the others listed here. A good starter piece. They do NOT have the swing out cylinder for loading/unloading. one hole at a time like the old western movie guns. Cylinder removeable to install magnum cyl. Made in Miami Fl.. I bought one for Christmas for under $200 new. (by the way: these are not our only handguns. We also own Hi-Point; Bersa; Colt; Ruger; Kimber; and others. as I said "Nice starter piece"
Pair-a-dice farm
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I've got a Ruger MarkIII semi auto and a Ruger Single 10 revolver. I prefer the revolver but it was a little pricey. If you can find some place that will let you shoot them first it would hel you make a decision.
Fawteen
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My error. I was thinking of the SP101.
I don't have any DA Rugers, but I don't find
anything even remotely crude about my Single Six or
Blackhawk convertible.
Couldn't comment on the Colt, never could afford one
of their revolvers.
I don't have any DA Rugers, but I don't find
anything even remotely crude about my Single Six or
Blackhawk convertible.
Couldn't comment on the Colt, never could afford one
of their revolvers.
Anonymous-0
Well-known Member
Charter Arms, Taurus and Ruger make 9MM revolvers. S&W used to.
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