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old

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Well left a drop light next to the transmission all night and also had to drain plug out. Got back form the Christmas dinner thing and went out to check how it was. All drained out. Got to around 40 here today which did help. Filled it back up with UTF and moved a couple big round bales. Guess I need to buy a new shifter boot since it seems the old one is very bad
 
Glad you got it to drain. You would be waiting for awhile up here.

On where the water came from. A former customer had a Ford 861 that never set out side, ever. It would get water in it from condensation every winter. I do mean several gallons. HE finally would just loosen the drain plug just a little on a warm day. The water would drip out pass the threads and the oil would not. I never could figure out how that much water could get in there.
 
What is odd about this tractor is that we have had it since around 81 or 82 an this has only happened twice in all those years and one time was about 3 or so years ago and now just the other day. So this time I figure that 15 inches of rain we got in Aug and the tractor sitting out side did it. Oh well the big thing is that I got it fixed so I can use it when I need it
 
So where is the hole that air can get in the tranny to get all that water and get gallons of water setting inside. Must have some gremlins sneaking in the shop and pouring it in someone is pulling someone leg. Ive been in Iowa longer than you and that just dont happen.
 
Unless the boot is REALLY bad, a bit of chassis grease applied to the top of the boot around the shifter will keep out most of the water. Works better in Winter than Summer. Good luck!
 
Hi
must be a Ford thing we drain my major every year, after it warms up and comes out the snow bank in May, and again in the summer, and water comes out even in a dry year. Have heard of more than one Major do it exactly the same. it kinda surprises me to. I wonder if the oil pulls moisture from the air the same as modern blended fuel will.
Regards Robert
 
I got my boot from YT. It was a tight fit, works great. Problem is you need to make a large order to pay the freight.
 
Gene you have any unheated area with heavy casting setting in them??? Like transmissions or even anvils??? In my first shop I did not heat it all of the time. There would be a trail of water that would condense on the anvil and run down it to the floor.

This is the only way I can think of it happening. I have drain the oil out of gearboxes that where on machines that had not be moved for years and not outside in decades and they would have a little water in the bottoms.
 
Sure do but dont drain gallons of water from the trannys want to realy see sweat store on a cement floor where water stands realy a bad deal.
 

Well Gene I have those two gallon oil drain pans with the built in funnel. We would usually get one more than half full every spring out of the transmission on that Ford 861. The owner drained it in the fall and had ZERO water at that time but in the spring would get water. Like I said I never could figure out where all the water came from on that tractor.
 
glad ya got it fixed Old

water from condensation is pretty normal here
with wild weather changes all the time.
You always get some, but under the right conditions
the amount of water is amazing.
days and days of frigid weather to put the steel and cast into
a deep freeze. a freak 50-60 degree day with wind and rain.
open the unheated, dirt floor shed door and water will literally run off the tractors for hours. if it's on the outside, it's on the inside, nothing old is airtight anymore.
With an unlimited supply of water in the warm air, until Nature equalizes the cast temperature (which takes a very long time)
the 'faucet' is on

If you live where it's cold and wear glasses ......just like that.. a tractor is just bigger and holds the cold longer.

a propane heater (which supplies unlimited moisture), with sliding glass doors in a far from the heater cold room will give you a mini lake on the floor, as another example
 
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