OT - What's the best indoor pellet stove?

Royse

Well-known Member
Been researching pellet stoves, find lots of information and features.
Side mounted fans, easy empty ash pans, longer burn times,
longevity claims, access to parts. Worse than buying a truck! LOL
What has your experience been? Any to stay away from?
I would prefer outdoor, but this one has to be indoor.
 
We have a Harman Accentra that is like a fire place insert type. We have been very happy with it. Had it now close to 7 years
 
Here is shot I just took. Just ignore all the junk in the photo please.
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I don't know what that one was that Keith had but it had an auger feed outfit in it. Twice,he got cherry pits with a screw in them and the screw hung up in the auger and sheared the pin. He said it was a bear to replace.
 
I started burning corn with a Harman PC45 the first year they came out Then switched to a Quadra Fire AE as it was bigger and supposedly produced more heat. This was a big mistake since it has to shut down in order to dump the pot then restart so the house is cooling off during that time.
I had looked at a Bixby as they were a top of the line outfit but was priced over 4,000.00 and that was over my budget. Then someone told me they were selling them on E-Bay for 1900.00. I bought one and after I learned how well they worked I bought a second for my basement when we hit the -20 temps. I also got one for my shop. The owner of the company got into legal trouble and they quit making stoves. But parts are readily available if needed. The common weak point was the convection fan had cheap bearings and would go bad in a couple years. They can be bought for less then 10.00 so are a cheap fix. You can run this stove with a thermostat or 8 different heat settings. It can deliver 50,000 btu all the time and is automatic as it dumps the pot as needed and saves the fire so it doesn't have to re light itself. It has a large fuel hopper 110lbs and good sized ash bucket. I can run it 30 days nonstop before cleaning it.
It takes a little reading the instruction manual to figure it out and sometimes a e-mail to a Bixby owner with a question will help.
Every dealer will brag their brand up but I have found if I can find parts elsewhere it will be cheaper
 
We have an englander we bought at lowes for $1800.
4 yearsor ago.It's been quite reliable, but is a little
noisy. There is a place in grand ledge that specializes
in them. I can't remember the name of the store or
the brand, but it's much quieter. They cost more,
but that's what i'm going with next. Don't cheap out
on Pellets either. Somerset has been the best brand
I've come across. Experiment with them before you
buy a bunch. All in all, I'm sticking with Pellets.
 
bought a Big E at fleet farm 4 years ago at $999. use in our rental. had problems getting it started this fall, found out the chimney was plugged. it is automatic start and works off a thermostat
 
If you don't buy a Harman, you won't have the best and most efficient pellet stove made.They byfar have the best heat exchanger design in the industry, and the bottom feed system provides a hotter and cleaner burn. They are built in central PA, and parts and service support are a high priority to the company.
I retired from the largest Harman stove dealer in NY, and I have worked on all the brands out there. There is no other stove that will compare to them. Used Harman stoves bring twice as much as any other brand also.
Loren, the Acg
 
(quoted from post at 20:00:12 11/15/13) I started burning corn with a Harman PC45 the first year they came out Then switched to a Quadra Fire AE as it was bigger and supposedly produced more heat. This was a big mistake since it has to shut down in order to dump the pot then restart so the house is cooling off during that time.
I had looked at a Bixby as they were a top of the line outfit but was priced over 4,000.00 and that was over my budget. Then someone told me they were selling them on E-Bay for 1900.00. I bought one and after I learned how well they worked I bought a second for my basement when we hit the -20 temps. I also got one for my shop. The owner of the company got into legal trouble and they quit making stoves. But parts are readily available if needed. The common weak point was the convection fan had cheap bearings and would go bad in a couple years. They can be bought for less then 10.00 so are a cheap fix. You can run this stove with a thermostat or 8 different heat settings. It can deliver 50,000 btu all the time and is automatic as it dumps the pot as needed and saves the fire so it doesn't have to re light itself. It has a large fuel hopper 110lbs and good sized ash bucket. I can run it 30 days nonstop before cleaning it.
It takes a little reading the instruction manual to figure it out and sometimes a e-mail to a Bixby owner with a question will help.
Every dealer will brag their brand up but I have found if I can find parts elsewhere it will be cheaper

My experience loosly mirrors Rons. I just couldnt pull the trigger on a $3600 stove, no matter what brand, I just didnt think the numbers worked out. In the end, I bought a used stove for well under a grand, $700 IIRC. It was a clone of the old Buckner corn stoves, very common design. I burned corn in that 2 seasons and loved saving the cash (corn was cheap then) so started looking for a nicer stove. Still had a problem with paying almost 4 grand for a stove but about that time Bixby was getting bit hard by higher priced corn causing low sales and at the same time they were trying to corner the market with another company that would have given them in home delivery of corn/pellets (Bixby bought a water softening salt company that "blows" the salt into barrels in the house, they wanted to use that same system to deliver pellets). All that added up to Bixby starting to sell cheaper and sell some stoves for a 1 year warranty instead of the 4 year warranty that they normally offered. I think those were offered for around $2500 and as Bixby continued to have problems (cash flow), they eventually started selling on ebay for $1500 with $300-400 for shipping. Bingo, I jumped on it and to save the insane delivery charge, I went to pick it up.

I think its the best stove out there for a few reasons. It was designed from the beginning to burn anything, it wasnt redesigned like the other stoves to burn the next cheaply available fuel. One key part is, the augerless design. It used a "ferris wheel" design, just like a corn planter. This design does a much better job of stopping jams that are fairly common on auger type stoves. As was mentioned, nails and stones in your fuel does a number on not only the auger itself but to the motor as well BTDT, got the T-shirt with my old stove. The Bixby has had a few jams from that stuff but most times when the feed hopper is empty you see the garbage just laying on the bottom because it tries to feed, goes to the top of the wheel, gets sluffed off by the rubber flap and falls to the bottom of the feed hopper. By design, it just goes back to the bottom of the hopper (lower than the feed wheel is picking up) and stays there. Its a great design for feeding the stove. Oh, and in the case where it DID try to feed, the motor senses the obstruction, stops pushing so it dont burn out the motor and the computer in the stove shuts itself down to prevent damage.

Another great design of the stove is the ash dump. The stove has a cylindrical burn pot and when it dumps the ash, a plate with holes in it cuts off the bottom 1 inch of ash and lets that drop into the ash pan. The stove just keeps burning, no stopping the stove to clean it or anything, it just keeps going all automatic with the computer in the stove doing the work. You even take out the ashes while the stove is running, as long as you return the ash pan within 20 minutes, if you dont, as a safety feature it shuts the stove down.

Finally the backbone of the stove, the computer. Like I said earlier, the Bixby was designed from the beginning to burn anything and everything so the computer was put in it so things like timing of the feed wheel and the ash dump feature could be changed. Early on, Bixby only offered this software to the selling dealers. In fact, Bixby denied its existance when you called the factory but soon had to cave on that stance but they held firm for a while on refusing to allow end users to have access to the program. Now, anybody can get BixCheck and adjust the stove from your laptop. Its a perfect system if you think about it. If you want to burn corn, set the program so it feed the proper amount of fuel with the right amount of air and slowing the convection fan so the exhaust gasses stay above 250 degrees (so you dont rust out the exhaust pipe because corn exhaust that condensates is very corosive). If you want to burn pellets, set feed rate for pellets along with exhaust fan and turn up the convection fan to extract more heat, last have the ash dump happen more often. Want to burn switch grass? Simple, turn up the feed and have ash dumps very often. The computer and the BixCheck programing is the backbone of the stove. If Bixby didnt run into trouble with cash flow right at the time corn prices spiked, Bixby would have kept up the R&D on the stoves and all the other makers would be finding ways to copy them, it really is that good of a stove.

Cons? Exhaust pipe. Bixby uses a 3x5 pipe, exhaust inside a fresh air supply pipe. Its expensive, real expensive. I bought one factory set, never again. Now I use thin wall venting with the joints gooped up with sealant, just replace it often. Not a problem since the venting is about $30 every year or 2 compaired to hundreds for a 4 foot section. Next replacment is going to be car exhaust pipe, stainless if I can find someone to do affordable welding of the angles, if not I will just replace as needed.

Without a doubt, the Bixby is the best stove out there. They are still on ebay brand new now and then and parts are always available from the same places Bixby got them (Grainger, McMaster Carr etc.). Its only because of the low volume sales of stoves that is keeping someone from mailing a stove to China and having them reproduced by the thousands. There is no way a person cant get a 400 pound stove with a simple computer made off shore and delivered here for under a grand (plus tax). If corn prices drop again making volume of stove sales possible, it will happen.

If you buy a Bixby stove used for under a grand or new for under 2 grand, you will be one happy camper... Good luck with whatever you buy. Now with the internet you can get help with anything due to other owners, unlike the early corn stoves that were sold at fairs. We live in a different world now to say the least.
 
Great information about how the stove works. We figured out how to copy that special cable used to connect the stove to your computer to either adjust settings or change to a newer software.Sold well over 200 to people all over the US and Canada. If you want to get fancy you can leave a computer hooked up to the stove and turn the stove on or off with a smart phone or another computer. Bixby kept making little improvements such as they were very safety minded and the stove is insulated so only hot surface is the door. They even made a very nice looking screen that fits on the door so children can't burn themselves.
Very user friendly. There is a website called I Burn Corn.com and it features special sections about maintaining and using many different brand stoves. I doubt that there is a question about a Bixby that has'nt been answered and easy to follow directions are given. Some companies don't let this information out and the stove owner has to rely on the store to get parts and repair them. I am not a dealer but do handle some parts and often will buy a used stove and rebuild them as a hobby updating the software and replacing the common wear parts then reselling the unit.
Like Rich said the Bixby was the undisputed leader of the multi-fuel market.
 

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