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Nick167

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OK so I'm 14 will be 15 in march I'm saving up to get a tractor
to ride around and do work with i live outside bucyrus Ohio
I'm not exactly sure what kind to save up for I really like the j
I case 530 draft-o-matic with a loader we have one that is my
grandmas she got two tractors from her dads farm that case
and a ford 8n anyways I wanted to do some work with it and
make a little cash I can't really use the one we have cause
she's scared something might break cause about 20-30 years
ago my dad broke the front axle bush hogging with it and
they couldn't find a replacement so they just welded it. I want
your guys option on what I should try and get. Oh and some
ways I could make some money maybe any help is
appreciated thank you.
 
gonna pay attention to this thread, i am in a similar boat as you except a little older (16), i already have a allis wd, but its my pulling tractor so it has ho hydraulics or lift arms, just a drawbar and a pto when my grandpa (who bought it for me) uses it for the auger tractor. one way to make money with minimal equiptment purchases is hay, square bales are a little easier to handle and in my area (nw iowa) go for a little more per ton, you can also get more square bales in the same size space as round bales. that being said, what do you have for land, or your parents/relatives have for land. without you really cant make money with your tractor unless you would do custom bailing per say but then you should have a 3/4 or bigger pickup to hual the tractor and or bales, or you could rent land, which isnt very practical for this situation. a little more info is needed to give you an accurate answer, but good luck to you,


also what kind of hp numbers were you thinking, or basically how big and how new of a tractor did you have in mind
 
I'm not sure on the horse power but big enough to run a 6 ft
bush hog and scraper blade and a fence post auger and it
would have to have live pto and a 3 pt hitch. And for being
new maybe 70's for the newest.
 
An Oliver 550 would fit that bill. They are plentiful, and easy to find parts for. Very easy to work on. They have live PTO and live hydraulics. Easy on fuel for a gasser. If you get a diesel you will probably wonder if it is burning any fuel at all. At 45 hp they would run a 7 foot chopper easy and just about anything else you would want.
 
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well i dont know how much hp it takes for a six footer, but for pure and unmatched girth and strength i would go with an oliver or a white (same as oliver just newer and white bought oliver out) my grandpa has some of everthing, but for the heavy duty stuff he turns to his oliver or a white, i would recommend a oliver 1650/1655 or a white 2-70 (white is the same thing just newer) they are about 70 horse and will work relentlessly for you, just make sure you dont get one with a turbo, most of them wont handle the additional stress, other wise i would recommend a farmall of your pick ( 460, 560, 706) if you are not sure on a tractor go to the tractor data website, not all their stuff is correct all the time but it is a very good starting point, also just check your local craigslist or local auction site for tractors, my grandpa bought my wd pulling tractor for 800 dollars, runs fine, exceptional tin, no rust at all and a pretty decent paint job, the next auction they sold a wd 45 in a little bit rougher shape but with an all hydraulic loader for 800 dollars also.
 

one more thing, are you looking for a tractor with a loader on it or would you use your case? if you are looking for a tractor for frequent running around doing small stuff, and you have colder weather, you may want to get a gas tractor, easier starting, cheaper fuel. if you have a heated shop to store the tractor in or have an outlet near by where you store it and dont mind plugging it in for a few hours before you use it than i would say go ahead and get a diesel, which brings me to another question, gas or diesel?
 
Thanks for all the help I keep my eye out on Craigslist list alot and i will make sure its gas. And if they need a little work that's fine I'm getting better at fixing things I will look at these tractors and thanks again for all the help
 
(quoted from post at 19:47:09 11/14/13) Thanks for all the help I keep my eye out on Craigslist list alot and i will make sure its gas. And if they need a little work that's fine I'm getting better at fixing things I will look at these tractors and thanks again for all the help
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dont get me wrong, it doesnt absolutely have to be gas, as both have there pros and cons and a con of a diesel is harder starting in cold climates, however they are less cold blooded once you get them going, and usually use less of their more expensive fuel than a similar sized gas motor. evening out the cost of fuel, however most diesel parts tend to be more expensive than gas parts and for someone newer to tractors, are usually more complicated to fix than a gasser. some other great tips for you, 1. when you buy your tractor, your next purchase should be a repair manual for that tractor. 2. get a good selection of tools to fix the tractor in an event that it breaks down. and 3. get a good welder, there isnt much you cant fix on a tractor with a welder, and if you cant fix it most of the time you can make a new part with a welder, good luck on your endeavors
 
It would be gas I've seen a few good deals but didn't have the
money like this guy had a nice looking AC wd 45 for 500 it had
been sitting in a barn for ten years but it was a crank start a I
would like to be able to plow snow as well
 
(quoted from post at 19:49:16 11/14/13) I'd prolly be able to use our case I would like to get a loader
but it depends on the price
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usually loader tractors are a bit rougher than tractors without loaders so they are reasonably priced, my most frequent craigslist search is tractor and loader, also if you search for the type of tractor, say farmall or oliver or allis chalmers, it will pull up results that it didnt show before, even searching tractor with loader compared to tractor and loader will bring up different and new results than when i searched for tractor and loader
 
(quoted from post at 19:56:23 11/14/13) It would be gas I've seen a few good deals but didn't have the
money like this guy had a nice looking AC wd 45 for 500 it had
been sitting in a barn for ten years but it was a crank start a I
would like to be able to plow snow as well
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wd 45 should have electric start AND hand crank start. there isnt a key, you pull the lever on the right of the steering wheel and that engages the starter
 
Thanks I will try that. That's why I like our case it works well
with the loader to but this spring I have to put new seals in
the right power steering cylinder.
 
gotta get to bed right soon as i have a busy day tomorrow, but will be sure to get back to this thread the next time i get the opportunity
 
Alright thank you I wasn't sure of that. I will keep that in
mind. But it will prolly be spring before I get one cause I need
more money I'm going to sell 2 of my riders with out decks I
think I can get bit outta them
 
Thank you for the tips I'm going to get gas cause sometimes I
work on the two we have and they are gas and GA is a little
cheape
 
The Case 530 is one of the best tractors Case ever built. Many parts are common to the Case Cunstruction Kings which are the most popular TLB ever built.
Although your grampa had a mishap with the front "ag" axle, that is not an issue. Most were welded back with simple reinforcements better than new. Tell gram to quit fretting, The 530 will handle a 3B mtd plow and a 6' rotary cutter easily. The loader is also certainly an asset, but as all equipment it has limits, and commom sense always prevents problems such as that tractor experienced.
Loren, the Acg.
 

Might be better to decide on the work that you will be doing first and then what you need for equipment to do the work and then get the right sized and properly equipped tractor for the equipment. I know one type of work that will only get better is biosolids spreading. You might look around for a contractor that may be able to hire a tractor with operator.
 
unless you like constantly tinker with problems //don't mess with a gasser ,, get a diesel .this is especially true for Case . they use 40 percent less fuel ,, engines last 3 times longer, and have far more hp than a gasser of the same model, simpler than points and all the qirky carburetor problems ,,.. if gas could be half the cost of diesel ,, the diesel would still work cheaper ..
 
Oliver Super 55 or 550. SO many more features than any other tractors of their time.
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I agree with Showcrop about determining your working needs before selecting a tractor to buy. That dosn't mean your can't still do your research.

If you are planning to make money with at tractor, do the math on how long it will take you to pay-off your investment and you begin to receive a decent wage for yourself. It's easy to wind up loosing money on your equipment with nothing left for your wages. Older tractors will likely drop in price in the near future, and you will may have more money by then too.

At fourteen, your life and your interests will change a lot over the next ten years, and life will get more complicated fast: cars, dating, high school graduation, moving, career school, moving, new job, marriage, moving, first house, starting a family, etc. Those all require a lot more moey than you first estimate.

In short: Why saddle yourself with a tractor if you don't have a need for one yet?

It's fun to look and dream, but hold off on spending a lot of money on something that could become a burden, BTDT.
 
Couple of things you need to look into before you buy anything. Can you legally hire yourself out to run equipment at your age? That can be a show stopper right there. Look at both your state and federal law. Not that I'm against kids working but if you should get injured and it comes to the attention of the law both you and person hiring you may be in trouble. Second thing is insurance. Check to see if any company will insure you at your age for that type of work. Not med insurance but liability at least. You may also need to be bonded just to protect yourself. It's a real shame that kids can't work like we did when I was young.

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 13:30:50 11/15/13) Couple of things you need to look into before you buy anything. Can you legally hire yourself out to run equipment at your age? That can be a show stopper right there. Look at both your state and federal law. Not that I'm against kids working but if you should get injured and it comes to the attention of the law both you and person hiring you may be in trouble. Second thing is insurance. Check to see if any company will insure you at your age for that type of work. Not med insurance but liability at least. You may also need to be bonded just to protect yourself. It's a real shame that kids can't work like we did when I was young.

Rick
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thats a good point, also if you can get insurance, can you afford it. no use in paying more for insurance that what you are making.

do you or i guess it would be your parents have any land? it doesnt have to tilled or anything was just wondering, if you wanted to make money with your tractor and cant get or afford insurance, your only option is to do something on your own land, or relatives land (such as your grandmas or uncles or something like that)
 
Well my neighbors are old family friends and they have a field they don't farm maybe I could use I would say its 15-20 acres
 
if there is grass there good, if it already grows tall great, you can get a decent amount of bales from thick tall grass from an acre or two, thats what i would do, buy some fertilizer, maybe some grass seed from a different grass to diversify what is growing seed and fertilize the grass for a little bit while you work up cash and then you could either buy a tractor and baler, or if grams will let you, use the case and just buy a baler, check local markets to see what kind of bales go for the highest price(like in my area, grass square bales that are dry and are the first cut go higher than similar condition round bales) and go for it
 
(quoted from post at 14:41:11 11/15/13) Well my neighbors are old family friends and they have a field they don't farm maybe I could use I would say its 15-20 acres
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i would suggest renting if from them, tell them what your intentions are, for example baling it for hay, generally profits are lower when bailing hay compared to growing row crops, so you should talk to them and tell them you would like to rent it for a considerably lower price than when growing row crops, you might even get lucky and they will let you do it for free, just make sure to get a contract signed up, even though they are family friends its good to be safe
 
Thanks I might in the spring about 25 years ago it was ours
but my grandma sold it to them they are farmers to but just
have farmer subsidy on it. And would I be able to just bush
hog it of or would I need something else
 
(quoted from post at 15:53:56 11/15/13) Thanks I might in the spring about 25 years ago it was ours
but my grandma sold it to them they are farmers to but just
have farmer subsidy on it. And would I be able to just bush
hog it of or would I need something else
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for grass/alfalfa hay you would need a drum mower or a sickle mower (doesnt work as fast as a drum mower but would defineitly be cheaper) a hay rake (some people call them tedders i believe) and a baler, a bale fork also if you do round bales and than a truck and trailer or a trailer and hay wagon for short distances to haul the hay bales
 
Federal law is 14 to work on a farm: Have to have written consent from parents: No more than 16 hours a week during the school year. (can be employed on a farm as young as 12 providing it's a family farm (your family) or a parent works on said farm: Many states will not allow a 14 year old to operate equipment on the roads between fields. Check everything! Make sure you are going to be completely legal before you start. Your parents and anyone who would hire you to operate your own equipment could (key word here is could) be held legally responsible should you be injured.

As far as owning your own business where you are not actually a farmer you should check the laws before you start spending money. For example many states it's illegal for someone under the age of 18 to operate power equipment. So if you got a tractor and bush hog and tried to hire yourself out to mow pastures and such you would not be a farmer but a business that mows. So in many states you couldn't operate your own equipment but would have to hire someone (OSHA rules would kick into in this case). I myself would be very careful about hiring a 14 YO to mow my pasture. They roll that tractor on themselves I could be held liable. Many 14 YO's don't have the experience to mess with dangerous equipment.

I'm not trying to rain on your parade. Just hate to see you spend money that now has to set for fours years if that's the case. You are posting on here so you have access to a computer and internet. Start researching both fed and state laws. Then if everything looks good try talking to locals who may wish to hire you. If it looks like you can get jobs make sure they will pay enough to cover operating expenses and an hourly wage for you. Operating expenses include enough to cover repairs and maintenance plus future equipment upgrades.

Rick
 
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(quoted from post at 19:18:36 11/16/13) alright thanks and how much does this equipment cost
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the only way to know for sure is to check out your local dealer and craigslist
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lright thanks and can anyone give me some ideas on how much to pay on a tractor
 
(quoted from post at 19:38:05 11/18/13)
(quoted from post at 15:04:21 11/18/13)
(quoted from post at 19:18:36 11/16/13) alright thanks and how much does this equipment cost
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the only way to know for sure is to check out your local dealer and craigslist
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lright thanks and can anyone give me some ideas on how much to pay on a tractor
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if you can get pics of it on here
 
the one I'd like to look at doesn't have pics but its not running and what's the a good price to pay on a non running tractor
 
(quoted from post at 18:56:55 11/19/13) the one I'd like to look at doesn't have pics but its not running and what's the a good price to pay on a non running tractor
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depends what kind of tractor is it
 
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