Rim Guard Tire Fluid

Are any of you fellows using Rim Guard instead of calcium chloride in your tires for weight? I filled all 4 tires on my WD-45 about 8 years ago when I restored the tractor. In that time, the tubes in both front tires and one of the rears have started leaking out the valve stem. It's not the valve core, it's actually that the rubber has come un-bonded from the brass sleeve that holds the valve core.

Have any of you had a similar problem? I want the fluid, because I use the tractor, not just show it. And I don't want to use calcium chloride either - I already repaired the rims once and don't want to do that again.

I'd also like to not have to replace tubes every few years either. Thanks for any ideas or suggestions! I have to do something with the tires on my TO-35 that's soon done with restoration, and I don't want similar problems.

Thanks!

Phill from MN

My self I use wipe fluid and if you watch you can catch it on sale. I did not long ago and got 3 cases for $1.39 per gal

I have Rimguard in by bota, no problems so far.

I did I believe twice on my old 850 ford, the first one the dopey kid from the tire outfit that installed a new rim, tube and tire for me, valve was never right, leaked awhile, screwed up the valve hole on that new rim, so I dismounted the tire, let the CA CL out, welded the rim, (NEVER WELD A RIM WITH A TIRE ON IT, TIRE MUST BE COMPLETELT OFF - disclaimer here LOL !) close the hole, then ground the inside smooth, left a thick weld profile on the outside, then painted the rim with zinc galv spray, remounted, reloaded the tire. I changed the opposite side valve core believe, but that new tire, tube was installed by a much better tire guy, I sandblasted, and put several coats of zinc galv spray on that rim, mostly have good luck with CA CL loaded tires, I'm about to change valve cores again, even with the correct fluid amount, and valves up, I still get fluid coming out, when I air them up or change valve cores, so I have to clean everything involved but good. With the minor leaks, and or having done the one tire myself, had I knew to fix that one sooner, the rim would have been fine, new hole worked fine, though I should have pounded a new flat spot before drilling the hole.

I don't know whats up with the poor quality tubes/valves out there today, if it was doing this often, I'd change to something other than CA CL too. Thing is, CA CL does work fine, just those valve cores, and or faulty tubes, get a puncture, you know it has to come apart and be cleaned asap, vs the other not being so critical, any tractor in use is likely to be fixed on time anyway so for me, I don't mind using it just keep an eye on it, its been years since I've had any trouble and I run in all kinds of brush, doing some logging, easy to catch a valve stem or a puncture if you are not careful.

I've bought 5 new tractors with rim-guard since the local dealers quit using calcium, and switched to rim-guard in one old tractor using a new tube. never seen what you describe except for the neighbors tractor and that was with an old tube that had calcium in it before. sounds like an old tube that had calcium damage, or a flawed new tube.

I put new tires and tubes on my Case 400 about 6 or seven years ago. They both started to leak this fall. Going to need 2 new tubes I guess.

Woppee,a whole 12 or 18 gal.,couple garden tractors worth.When you have to have 150-200 gal.or more it gets expense vs Cal.and only has half the weight.

Here in Ohio Many used to install it but quit due to having problems pumping it in cold weather to do repairs.
They all use a type of washer fluid.

I also imagine with the poor quialty of everything now that the tubes are now junk too.

Bought a 1999 AGCO-Allis last summer with 326 original hours on it. Most of its life was spent in the back of a heated garage. Got it home and noticed seepage around the valve stems. The calcium chloride had eaten through the valve stems. Replaced the rear tubes and loaded the calcium back in. I use rim guard in a number of my tractors, but some local tire repair places around here are getting away from it. Looking at new New Holland T series tractor, Dealer said he would load with rim guard, so not all tire repair shops are moving away from it.

(quoted from post at 12:18:44 10/21/13) Woppee,a whole 12 or 18 gal.,couple garden tractors worth.When you have to have 150-200 gal.or more it gets expense vs Cal.and only has half the weight.

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And calcium chloride doesn't hurt rims-procrastination does.

Hi
That"s nasty S@#% doesn"t matter what you do it rusts stuff if it comes into contact with metal.
Our Valtras giving us hassle right now with a michelin tire. Had the tire shop out at Christmas. They did a patch in tire and put new tube in $350. last week calc started appearing round rim again.
Dad wouldn"t pay tire shop again so I had to pump the thing and do it!.
Figured I wasn"t using my tools to pull it apart. So used his. I guess next time he"s gonna write a check 2 days after his tools I used are all rusty.
I washed them off good, put oil on them and they are all still junk!.
Guy my friend works for has a tractor just over 10 years old got a flat last week and the rims are already rotten from fluid in a tubeless tire too!
Regards Robert

Yes I have had this happen on mine with no tubes....exactly what you have for a problem, my fix was a tie wrap/zip tie for temporary repair, then replace the valve stems with metal ones. Never used rim gard in a tube, but I would expect it to do as you described.

I had it in my last kubota. I brought the tractor new and kept it 8 years and never had a problem. The kubota before that one had cloride in it and I had trouble a couple of times with them leaking during the seven years I had that tractor. My current kubota has the rim guard in it with no problems yet but I've just had this one for a year.
That cloride is some nasty stuff, I would go with washer fluid before I would use it again in any of my tractors.

No showcrop,I don't really like it,but if you have to go thru the trouble(need) to add serious wt.then put something in that will add the wt.We have only lost one rim in 70+years and 1 unit has had Calcium in 18.4 tubeless for 28 yrs.and shows no damage yet.When we had tie ins with Good Year and had 3 tractors on test tires,they had to be loaded 100% full with 5# mix(1940 to mid 60s)and still have 2 sets of those rims that haven't rusted out yet.Plus have 18,000lbs.of wheel wts.and 3500lbs.suitcase,so I don't really need fluid in tires much anymore.