#$%@ THIEVES!!!!

So a friend and I headed over to the far end of the property to see about splitting some firewood. We get over there and my log splitter has disappeared. Now this thing was a homebuilt job with no wheels or motor (ran it off the belly pump on the Farmall H) and dam heavy so he must have had some help. Plus, it was hidden in the weeds so it must have been someone who had seen me using it. None of the firewood was taken, just the splitter, so I assume it ended up at the scrap yard.
 
Call the cops and then do a look around at the scrap yards you know in in your area. If you find it they have to give it back or pay for it. But yes I have a no trespass thing signed with conservation so if i catch some one no questions asked they get a ticket. Does not help me as such but maybe makes them hurt some
 
Did you ever notice when they do catch thieves they are just some low life who doesn't have a dime to his name? You would think since he gets his stuff for nothing and the rest of us pay for our stuff he would be far better off financially then we are. But he is not. Why is that?
 
Some 20 years ago in late spring i cut on crown land a couple hundred rails to build corrals , when i went to get them a couple weeks later they were all cut up in firewood lengths by a neighbor( caught him red handed)
Cops did not do a thing cause i could not prove ownership yet i had a written permit to harvest rails in that spot from forestry and the neighbor had none.
Cops are about as useless as t"ts on a boar.,...Most neighbors as well :roll:
 
(quoted from post at 21:11:28 10/12/13) Did you ever notice when they do catch thieves they are just some low life who doesn't have a dime to his name? You would think since he gets his stuff for nothing and the rest of us pay for our stuff he would be far better off financially then we are. But he is not. Why is that?

Because they spend it on booze, drugs, porn, ATVs, big screen tv's, booze and drugs. And then when you do arrest them they get off on suspended sentences if they go to rehab, which rarely sticks.
 
(quoted from post at 21:57:38 10/12/13) Some 20 years ago in late spring i cut on crown land a couple hundred rails to build corrals , when i went to get them a couple weeks later they were all cut up in firewood lengths by a neighbor( caught him red handed)
Cops did not do a thing cause i could not prove ownership yet i had a written permit to harvest rails in that spot from forestry and the neighbor had none.
Cops are about as useless as t"ts on a boar.,...Most neighbors as well :roll:

I've had conversations with you Mounties about the way your laws work up there. Your trespass laws are nuts IMO. I don;t know where to place the blame, but I believe it start in Ottawa or your Provincial capitol.
 
Most of the tractor run splitters I've seen for sale around here seem to be $500 or less, certainly not a lot of money, scrap for one has to be much less, given they're usually a short but stout steel beam, it does not make much sense unless the person is a hardcore addict, who ain't too smart going after 1 piece of steel. I'd keep an eye out on CL or what have you, sometimes these people are foolish enough to try and sell right in the open.

I've learned, not to leave anything out on the property, odds are things are most likely safe, but I get an occasional ATV trying to cross through or someone you don't see, they see something of yours and that's all it takes to plant the seed, so I am careful.

One winter someone went to the top and back of our place here and took a nice deer stand down, took everyone elses on adjacent lands, as well as any game cameras, hard to figure when or who will do these kinds of things. Previously, and in many years past, and maybe because of the lay of the land, there was never any theft around here.

I live at the end of a dead end road and we own the land on one side of it, my driveway is at the end of the road, and I have a staging area for logs or park things there, but never anything that someone could grab easily, should not be like that, but it is, hate thieves as much as the next guy. There is something seriously wrong with a person who decides to take something they do not own. One thing I do believe is that when someone steals, sooner or later something bad will happen to them, seen it enough to be comfortable knowing, odds are, they'll get theirs, might be ignorant to not know why or what, but it will happen.

Hopefully it turns up or you can source another inexpensive, likely not so much the worth, but the work you have to do, if someone made off with my tow behind splitter, I'd be screwed, not so much by worth, but being stopped from doing the work I need done with it.


When I was a kid, behind our tractor dealership was old power company vehicles bought on auction for resale, we used to do well with those, had a connection at the power company for purchasing these etc. There was a fair amount of odds and ends left in the utility boxes etc. One afternoon, I spotted a person sorting through the trucks, I think my dad was at the other end of the shop, so I did not move until he came by. caught red handed, and the best was I lived near a state police barracks and knew every trooper by their first name, one phone call and I got to watch the arrest. Sometimes the tables are turned. We used hang out at night at this place and hide in the dark, catch people, one particular young man while on the run ran right into my father, he said there was a distinct odor emanating from the mans drawers after that. He loved using the element of surprise, worked well. Theft was common there only a few miles from the house, place had a security alarm, no implements left out, you could almost count on catching someone trespassing after dark until word got out, the place was patrolled, it was great, open the overhead door, hide your vehicle, pick a dark spot and wait.
 
Lance I am over in Centerville. Maybe we should invoke the Texas three S law. Shoot, Shovel and Shut up.

I think it should be open season on them.
 
I hope you find your splitter, and the thieves who got it.

One of my neighbors was an ironworker and tough as a pine knot. He worked away from home all week, and one Friday evening as he approached his place, he saw a couple of guys sitting something in the back of their car. He drove on into his lane and went directly to his tractor - sure enough, the battery was gone. He ripped out after them, but couldn't find the vehicle, got disgusted, and made a big circle headed back home. On the back side of the circle, he met the car. He turned around and casually followed them 'til they were way out in the sticks, then he raced up and wedged them over into a roadbank with his old truck. He got out and beat the living snot out of both of them, got his battery, and went home. I saw one of those knuckleheads a couple of days later, and his head was swelled up like a pumpkin. That stopped the thieving in our neighborhood for awhile, but the sad fact is - another group will come along, and they have to be "educated" all over again.
 
I went down to my tractor shed the other week to get my H. While there I noticed the gas cap off of my B was just setting on top of the tank. Upon closer inspection I realized the tank was bone dry, so I looked in the tank of the C and it was dry also. When I checked the H it was 3/4 full so I looked around and realized my 2 gallon gas can, half full of diesel, was also gone. A few days later I realized my generator in the same shed was also empty. It turns out the H was parked in the doorway so they must have felt safe stealing the gas from the others out of view of the road. This shed is in sight of a well traveled gravel road with doors that are never shut but there is a fence around the place. I don"t know if someone dropped the thief off or if they parked down the road on a minimum maintenance road out of sight of the main road. I"m going to have a change of how things are done here now.
 
A few years back I pulled on to a farm that I had just bought a couple years before & something just didn't feel right. So I set in my pick up for a while & looked around until I realized that someone had stole the lightning rods off my corn crib. They probably got $10 for them at the scrap yard. I would have given the $100 to leave them alone. Gerald
 
I read in a history of Omaha, that in about 1856 a man was cutting firewood in the hills north of town and taking it to a lot he owned in the Florence area to sell it. That was in the days when everyone both heated and cooked with firewood.

He noticed some pilferage, so he took a couple dozen pieces of firewood, bored a 1" hole down the centers, filled them with gunpowder and hammered a plug back in the end. He then set them where they could be easily swiped.

When wood stoves started blowing up in the neighborhood, the pilferage stopped.
 
I had someone take 10 gallons of diesel tank sludge. Out of the back of my service truck. Always wondered how far they got on that mixture.
 
We always haul the uncut wood to the barn yard and the cut and split it. Haven't lost anything doing it that way. One thing is to get a field camera you can get some nice picks of wild life an d few of the thieves for not over $100
Walt
 
I know a guy who had two tanks on his truck. He decided to fill the one tank with diesel and not drive his truck for a while. Yep, thieves stold diesel, thinking it was gas. Last time he had a problem.
 
Heard from a buddy today that the scrap thieves are really getting out of hand. Reid's auto salvage and scrap metal emporium got hit as well recently.
 
Ya know of a baler that was parked in a front yard not far from me. It was there when the guy went to work but gone when he got home. The story I was told was they know where it is and yes in a scarp place but the guy is not pressing it which is sad since that just lets the guy get away with it
 
Unfortunately you can't do anything but make your stuff as difficult and undesirable to steal as possible. And make sure your property insurance covers you and is paid up.

Even caught red-handed, you can't do a d*mn thing. You can't prevent them from leaving, that's unlawful imprisonment. You can't pull a gun on them, that's assault with a deadly weapon. You can't beat them up, that's assault and battery.

They can just take what they want with impunity. That's why it's getting worse.

The reality is that the cost to prosecute and jail these people far exceeds the value of what they stole. The judicial system and jails are already overcrowded. It's not likely that a petty thief is going to end up with much of anything if caught.

Just imagine how bad it would be if not for all these government handouts. Take those away and I suspect it would be absolute anarchy on the streets.
 
(quoted from post at 10:20:38 10/14/13) Unfortunately you can't do anything but make your stuff as difficult and undesirable to steal as possible. And make sure your property insurance covers you and is paid up.

[b:d662789e74]Even caught red-handed, you can't do a d*mn thing. You can't prevent them from leaving[/b:d662789e74], that's unlawful imprisonment. [b:d662789e74] You can't pull a gun on them[/b:d662789e74], that's assault with a deadly weapon. [b:d662789e74]You can't beat them up[/b:d662789e74], that's assault and battery.

They can just take what they want with impunity. That's why it's getting worse.

The reality is that the cost to prosecute and jail these people far exceeds the value of what they stole. The judicial system and jails are already overcrowded. It's not likely that a petty thief is going to end up with much of anything if caught.

Just imagine how bad it would be if not for all these government handouts. Take those away and I suspect it would be absolute anarchy on the streets.
Citizen arrest with as much force as needed is completely lawfull
 
Mkirsch hit the nail on the head. You are 100% correct. We had some meth heads come through the woods on atvs to our sawmill. They cut all the copper fuel lines off the sawmill engine, took battery cables also. How much money could they have gotten? A big pain for us, I would have given them $50 to leave the sawmill alone.
 
(quoted from post at 10:20:38 10/14/13) Unfortunately you can't do anything but make your stuff as difficult and undesirable to steal as possible. And make sure your property insurance covers you and is paid up.

Even caught red-handed, you can't do a d*mn thing. You can't prevent them from leaving, that's unlawful imprisonment. You can't pull a gun on them, that's assault with a deadly weapon. You can't beat them up, that's assault and battery.

They can just take what they want with impunity. That's why it's getting worse.

The reality is that the cost to prosecute and jail these people far exceeds the value of what they stole. The judicial system and jails are already overcrowded. It's not likely that a petty thief is going to end up with much of anything if caught.

Just imagine how bad it would be if not for all these government handouts. Take those away and I suspect it would be absolute anarchy on the streets.

Get involved in getting "Castle Law" passed in your state. Then you can use any means available to stop a thief in progress. Including and up to deadly force if they are committing a felony theft. Now I don't know if I would shoot a thief, unless he actually came into my home when I or wife were there. Stealing the farm stuff just might get a load of bird-shot slung his way. Aint saying I wouldn't be sorely tempted though! Beating the double naut poop out of him would be a great option and quite legal down here. Most thieves are cowards and run when confronted.
 

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