I wonder where that crossover point is?

Dick2

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When I was young, we somerfallowed our ground every 4 or 5 years by plowing under a tall crop of sweet clover to restore fertility.

Often we planted rye on that ground in the fall to control wild oats. It's amazing that rye plants send roots into the wild oat seeds and render them unable to grow. It was common practice before chemicals became available. We could count on 2 years of no wild oats after raising a crop of rye.

When I went to college, the professors were preaching that it was less costly to buy nitrogen in a bag (that was the way it was sold back then) than to somerfallow. With the price of fertilizer now, is that still true?

I know there is a cross over point where the end result ROI would be better with somerfallow than with fertilizer. Has anyone tried to calculate that point? Seems everyone is pushing for maximum yield, no matter what the cost of production.
 
One of the hottest topics over on the big-farmer forum is cover crops, using tillage radish, rye, peas, and other for the modern version of plow down.

Dad always put some sweet clover under some of the oats.

I have always planted some too. Tho my % of oat ground is very tiny any more. As well as turnips and worked with tillage radish some.

You can't not plant a crop on land worth $300 a year rent, and taxed accordingly. And you can't get the proper amounts of N, P, K, sulphur (back then air pollution supplied all we needed, now we have to add it), and other micros for a perfect replacement blend of fertilizers, so the stuff from a bag has its place.

Manure is great, I wish I could buy some, but living in a top 5 pork producing county, I can't get any, closer neighbors buy everything produced. Just not enough manure available. I can see 7 barns, 900 hogs per, from my property, but not enough manure to go around....

I would say we are trying to find the best of both worlds these days.

Paul
 
Don't know, but off the top of my head, I don't think the ROI will ever come out in favor of plowing under a crop of tall clover...

It's a 100% loss. You spend time and fuel and equipment wear on raising a crop that you never harvest.

Sure next year's crop should be better, but it would have to be 2X better to pay for the expense of plowing under the clover. Will it be 2X better? I doubt it.

You always get something back out of a crop you raise for harvest. Sometimes you lose money, but it's never a 100% loss, even if the crop is a total failure. In typical years, you at least break even.
 
Paul:

What part of the country are you in?

"Manure is great, I wish I could buy some . . ."

A couple weeks ago in response to a post here, FLOLDFORD said that he worked for one of the worlds largest granular fertilizer producers. You might give him a shout.

Doc
 

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