Price Estimation Help

Bryce Frazier · Sep 11, 2013

Hey guys, there is a little Ford 9N on CL this morning that is in my area. He didn't post a price, sounds like he would just like to pass the tractor along, here is the link. I am kinda half way interested and would like to know what you guys think that it is worth? Thanks, Bryce
http://spokane.craigslist.org/grd/4059071753.html

Zachary Hoyt · Sep 11, 2013

Usually terms like "honest price" or "reasonable offer" or "I know what this is worth, no lowball offers" are indications to me that the seller is a time waster, but maybe this case is different. My experience has been that whatever you offer will not be enough, and I don't even bother to contact ads that do not have a price. Best of luck if you do make an offer.
Zach

bill mart · Sep 11, 2013

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oldtanker · Sep 11, 2013

Non running with rotten rims? I wouldn't go more than 400. And that would only be if he can show receipts for alleged work done.

Rick

El Toro · Sep 11, 2013

I would give a low ball bid like a $100.00 to see what he's wanting. If the engine doesn't run and the tractor needing rims you're buying a pig in a poke. If the price he wants sounds too high I would walk away. Hal

Bryce Frazier · Sep 11, 2013

I agree with you guys, seems a little suspicious. Maybe he is legit, but you never know! To me a guy that is already broke and REALLY doesn't need another project laying around, I would say $200, by the time I went and got it I would probably be looking at a $100 just for fuel, plus an entire day of an adventure!!! BUT, it is kind of a neat little tractor and I LOVE my Ferguson, so I don't know. I do think that I will put an e-mail into him though. Thanks, Bryce

El Toro · Sep 11, 2013

If that engine is stuck you will be putting a lot of money into an engine rebuild. That engine doesn't have sleeves. Any engine cylinder boring
will be expensive plus the new parts.

I paid $100.00 for this Farmall A in 1975. The engine was stuck and it needed rims, tires, wiring, steering wheel and fenders. These engines have sleeves and a new sleeve kit back then was $80.00 from our local IH dealer. The tractor also came with the 16-inch moldboard plow too. Hal

Pitch · Sep 11, 2013

I see nothing wrong or suspicious at all with the add. I would offer 400.00 after talking to him at considerable length.
The engine does have sleeves,not that it is going to make a great deal of difference.
What do you want it for? If you want a project good,just know that whatever you put into it you are never going to get back out.
If you need one to use keep looking!

Bryce Frazier · Sep 11, 2013

Well, the engine won't be a problem. Thats what my family does is rebuild engines, so getting t bored and honed is no problem. Rims and tires are my main concern, everything else looks complete, and fairly straight, but I can't afford new tires as most of you very well know! Bryce

El Toro · Sep 11, 2013

That engine does have sleeves. This forum has sleeve kits. Hal

Leroy · Sep 11, 2013

Bryce, first off that is not a 9N tractor that was built from 1939 to early 42 but a 2N tractor that was built late 42 to 1947. A early 2N did not come with starter or electric system and had a mag and not a distributator and they were on steel. That was because of material shortages in WW2. Now most have been converted over that were the war time tractors, after the war and material became avaible again then those items were gradually put back on the new tractors. Even though it is a 2N the serial number on the block will start with the 9 same as a 9N. The way the hood fastenes on tells me that. And if it is only a front rim that is bad they are fairly cheap and easy to get. And Yes they came with a sleeve but you could buy oversize pistons to put in the block without sleeves to gain more power but then the block would wear faster and only way to repair was to rebore and put in the thick wall sleeves like the late 8N's had.

Leroy · Sep 11, 2013

Bryce, the price you are thinking is not realistic. Just the tractor weight alone and the price of scrap will put it at $300 to go direct to China. A parts dismantler would pay more than that.

dhermesc · Sep 11, 2013

$400 or $500 seems about right as long as the engine isn't froze. It's probably worth about $300 in scrap metal alone.

I wouldn't worry about the work he claims to have done. The carb overhauled in 2008 probably needs it again now anyway - along with anything else he did. Letting a carb sit full of gas for 5 years is a lot worse than using it for 5 years.

Geo-TH,In · Sep 11, 2013

Bruce,
What are going to do with this tractor? I have a Jubilee. Only wish I knew then what I know now and I would have bought something newer with a live PTO. What you are looking at is a flat head, down on HP. Think about it, old tractors cost more to get running and restored than you can sell them for, even if you do all the work. Look at the rear tire, it will need a rim.

IMHO, I wouldn't even pay scrap price, a penny a pound, because of fuel costs and your time to get it.

On the other hand, if I had a like that tractor and needed parts, then it's worth more.

George

Ray · Sep 11, 2013

You can buy nice ones for 1500,why waste your time and money on junk?

Leroy · Sep 11, 2013

He has said he would like to do a museuim some day, so tractor would at some time be for show and keeping.

Geo-TH,In · Sep 11, 2013

Leroy,
Like Ray said, you can get nice ones all dressed up with lipstick in museuim like condition for $1500-2000.

Those old tractors have decades of problems, usually with gas tanks, rims rusted because leaking fluids, wiring, water in tranny, problematic hydraulics, the list goes on.

I'll revise my opinion, Less than a penny a pound because there is ballast in tires.

People think their junk is worth a lot. I don't share their opinion. I'm trying to buy a used 6.75 hp briggs to fix my boy's mower. A new briggs sells for $160. People on craigslist think their old used engines are worth at least $100.

Try to buy a used implement trailer or dump trailer. You can get new ones in some cases for less money. I did. Went to Elkhart.

Just my opinion. Opinions here are worth what we get paid for them.

George

Bryce Frazier · Sep 11, 2013

Well, I am currently trying to achieve my goal of owning one of each brand from the 40's ish range. I know what you guys mean when you can buy one all dressed up for $1500, but I don't have that kind of money! If I can get this tractor for $300 over all, rebuild the engine ( only pay for parts ) I have an inside source that gets me reproduction parts real cheap, one of my good friends owns a body shop and I do all of my own sheet metal work, I then paint everything in my front yard. Over all I can restore a tractor in that condition for around $1000 for everything including the purchase price. I know all the people in town that help me with stuff and give me a very good break, if it isn't free, plus I get that warm fuzzy little spot in my heart when it is all done because I can say to people, ya, I restored that tractor, not, ya I went and bought it. That's my thought, plus now that my dad found out they have flat heads, I think he would really like one!

Thanks, Bryce

gene bender · Sep 11, 2013

WW-2 didnt start intil Dec41 so there were no shortages for steel.

Leroy · Sep 11, 2013

And it was about mid 42 when the shortages came about, same as no cars built during the war years.

DaninKansas · Sep 11, 2013

Ever read why Ford came out with the "new" 2N after the war started?

DaninKansas · Sep 11, 2013

You can't buy a nice one for that price in Kansas. You might be able to buy one that runs for $1500, a "nice one" (runs OK, decent paint and tires) will run you $2000 to $3000.

The only cheap one that "runs" near me is advertised as "runs good" but no oil pressure and locks up after 15 minutes. But don't worry after it cools down you can restart it - $1200.

waltdavies · Sep 11, 2013

That tractor has $500 in tires on it around here they sell for around $1200 to $1500 in just about any condition. I doubt that you can get it for less than that.
Walt

Anonymous-0 · Sep 11, 2013

(quoted from post at 14:51:05 09/11/13) WW-2 didnt start intil Dec41 so there were no shortages for steel.

You Americans were a couple years late.

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