Was with a friend yesterday to pick up a tractor in St. Louis. Guy standing at an intersection with sign reading unemployed, homeless, with family. Will work for food. Friend say watch this. Offers guy a job on his hog farm for wages and a house to live in. Guy looked at my friend like he had 3 heads. Guy turned him down, as he didn't want to move to Illinois, but would take a money donation. Friend said that this is normal. Guess all they really want is just money and not a job.
- Thread starter BIG RUH
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There's a guy who stands every day all summer at an intersection in Carbondale, Illinois, holding a homeless sign. I have to admit - he's steady - if he went to a job as faithfully as he shows up on that street corner, he'd be a model employee. I think he's probably allergic to the word "job".
One of the local TV stations did a big story on the subject a month or so ago. Spent quite a while researching it. Followed some of them home,some to park benches where they got together to drink up the "donations",interviewed and exposed a bunch for what they really are.
BIG RUH:
It's the same all over the country; most of those folks actually WANT to be BUMS & BEGGARS. See them all the time panhandling for money (supposedly for food) so they can get Drugs or Alcohol. See them rummaging through the dumpsters behind restaurants and eating the garbage; or pawing through the ashtrays gathering cigarette & cigar butts that are partially smoked. And yet if you offer them a job they're suddenly allergic to work. Work is taboo, it's a dirty, 4 letter word.
I know one fellow who is partially disabled that actually created a job for himself. For 4 hours per day, 5 days a week he's out sweeping up the trash in the large shopping center parking lots. He'll never get rich, but it pays enough to support himself & his wife.
Doc
It's the same all over the country; most of those folks actually WANT to be BUMS & BEGGARS. See them all the time panhandling for money (supposedly for food) so they can get Drugs or Alcohol. See them rummaging through the dumpsters behind restaurants and eating the garbage; or pawing through the ashtrays gathering cigarette & cigar butts that are partially smoked. And yet if you offer them a job they're suddenly allergic to work. Work is taboo, it's a dirty, 4 letter word.
I know one fellow who is partially disabled that actually created a job for himself. For 4 hours per day, 5 days a week he's out sweeping up the trash in the large shopping center parking lots. He'll never get rich, but it pays enough to support himself & his wife.
Doc
Local TV station did a report about panhandlers several years ago. They each have their territory, intersections they work. They're never at the same one two days in a row. The worse the weather the more donations. They followed one guy to his brand new car and to his house in upper class neighbor hood. House was in his wife's maiden name and he was receiving welfare. Several local christian organizations raise cane about how he was just trying to provide for family. TV station backed off and apologize.
UHhh this type of attitude isn't new you know. My mother, who died at 91 about 5 years ago, recalled how in her home town in New Jersey there was a ragman who came to his territory every morning in a limo with driver. I'm counting back and think that was probably in the late 30's.
I was leaving VA in Fargo after an appointment. About 6 blocks from the VA hospital was an older guy in an old field jacket holding a sign: Disabled Viet Nam vet, need money for meds. I pulled into the parking lot behind him and told him I would take him to VA and walk him through signing up for the help he claimed he needed. Yup, you guessed it. He got mad and refused help.
Rick
Rick
Bryan inIowa
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they did story on them here in Cedar Rapids . Guys were knocking down 300 bucks a day cash . hardley ever a real vet , or homeless . I pointed the facts out to my 9 yr old daughter . Told her they were fake and scamming people . So ,couple days later we are driving through small town . Local celebration going on . Ladies holding up car wash signs. Skylar says "Dad , look at all those fake homeless people ". lmao
Anonymous-0
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There was a postal worker that was responsible for the starvation of some people.
You see what he done was hide their welfare checks in a pair of WORK boots
You see what he done was hide their welfare checks in a pair of WORK boots
BAnNC
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- Western North Carolina
There's whole families that rotate on the same spot. You better not try to move in on 'em either.
Panhandlers on streets of Seattle average $30,000 per year, tax free, of course. I think I'd rather have a real job, and my self respect.
Guy wrote a letter to the local paper, "Where are those Will Work for Food Guys when you need them?" He said they must have a 6th sense of when someone would actually need them, and they disappear. Ended up by saying "I got 500 bales in the field, will pay 10 bucks an hour PLUS food, and will throw in a couple of cold Buds if those guys will just come out of the woodwork for a day or 2."
Guy wrote a letter to the local paper, "Where are those Will Work for Food Guys when you need them?" He said they must have a 6th sense of when someone would actually need them, and they disappear. Ended up by saying "I got 500 bales in the field, will pay 10 bucks an hour PLUS food, and will throw in a couple of cold Buds if those guys will just come out of the woodwork for a day or 2."
Had an old guy come up to me at a car wash, in Charleston, SC years ago. He was an older guy that I knew grew up with the 'classic cars' and I stood there and talked about my 55 Chevy wagon for nearly 30 minutes before he asked anything from me. I can't remember his exact words, but, in effect, he said, 'You know, I could stand here and hand you a line of BS about being hungry, homeless, or whatever, and tell you I needed money to take care of myself. But, you know what, if you have it to spare, would you be willing to give me a couple of bucks so I can get me a bottle of wine.' In all my years I have never given a dime to a panhandler, but this guy got a few ones from me. The way I figured it yes, he might be homeless, a wino, or whatever, but regardless of any of that, the man was at least honest about what he was wanting money for, and honesty means alot, regardless of who you are.......
BAnNC
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- Western North Carolina
Have heard that some of 'em bring in $200-as much as 500 per day. With that kind of income, tax free, I'd be applying for that position too. No matter which corner I got to stand on.
johndeere720diesel
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Very true. I won't make eye contact with them and never give them any money
Nancy Howell
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City of Dallas passed an ordinance outlawing panhandling. Cut it down a lot.
You are correct about the "territory". Certain street corners were know to be profitable and there were actually fights between panhandlers to stand there.
How about the ones that come up to you at the gas station and give you a sob story about running out of gas and not having any money to buy gas. Can"t tell you how many times that has happened to me. Surprisingly, not one of those begging for gas money had a gas can. So how were they going to get the gas back to their car?!!!!
You are correct about the "territory". Certain street corners were know to be profitable and there were actually fights between panhandlers to stand there.
How about the ones that come up to you at the gas station and give you a sob story about running out of gas and not having any money to buy gas. Can"t tell you how many times that has happened to me. Surprisingly, not one of those begging for gas money had a gas can. So how were they going to get the gas back to their car?!!!!
My stepson had just been to a Burger King and had a sack of food to take home.
He pulled up to an intersection that had a guy holding up a sign "Will work for food."
Stepson reached in the bag and handed the guy a nice fresh sandwich and the guy got pizzed and threw it back at him!
That kind of cooled my stepson's kind hearted streak.
Myron
He pulled up to an intersection that had a guy holding up a sign "Will work for food."
Stepson reached in the bag and handed the guy a nice fresh sandwich and the guy got pizzed and threw it back at him!
That kind of cooled my stepson's kind hearted streak.
Myron
mudcreek183
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Had one here by the walmart with a woman for the longest time will work for food had 3 kids 2 walking one on the hip and another one on the way everytime you would see them time same spot. Went there in the morning after work they were there lady friend when by after work about 3 still in the same place heard walmart offered him a job didn't want it then they ran them off.
omahagreg
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I was in my own back yard one day, pan handler approached me. (I live 1/2 block off of Saddle Creek and California in Omaha). Said he forgot his wallet in his office. If I would give him $5 so he could get gas, he would come back in 20 minutes with a $20 for my trouble. I offered him all of a 5 gallon can of fuel I keep in the garage and he got angry! I turned and walked away.
Ultradog MN
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- Twin Cities
I give them a buck sometimes.
I kinda got a rating system though.
If they are Native American I figure they have the tribe they can go to.
If they are Black they have Jessie and Al they can go to.
If they are a woman they've got assets they can rent or sell.
I don't often see Mexicans there and have never seen an Asian.
Thr rest of them I'll likely give a buck to.
I kinda got a rating system though.
If they are Native American I figure they have the tribe they can go to.
If they are Black they have Jessie and Al they can go to.
If they are a woman they've got assets they can rent or sell.
I don't often see Mexicans there and have never seen an Asian.
Thr rest of them I'll likely give a buck to.
tractormiallis
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Here is a funny but unfortunatly true video of a lying panhandler.
http://wgrd.com/update-producer-joes-hobo-truth-brigade-fbhw/
http://wgrd.com/update-producer-joes-hobo-truth-brigade-fbhw/
steamnjn23
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Around here there is a guy that has a business of pan handling. He hires these guys at $10 per hour and comes by every 2 hours to collect their take.
I saw one guy pushing a wheelchair to his street position, then sit in it panhandling.
I saw one guy pushing a wheelchair to his street position, then sit in it panhandling.
One of the Walmarts here in Lubbock, Texas is known for having these people on the corners of the parking lot. I go by there almost every day in my travels. One person in particular is pretty interesting. He looks to be about forty or so, wears an old army jacket of some kind and has his sign that reads "Can't work, need food/money". He showed up one day with a walking cast on his right leg and foot. I was getting gas and he took his cast off and put it in his back pack and walked over to the Burger King and went inside. I got to looking for him and on different days he would wear the cast on the other foot. I missed him for a couple of months and then he showed back up. Guess he was on vacation...
Anonymous-0
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He'd probably turn you down if took him with you to the grocery store. Most likely looking for drug money. There was guy up here that was arrested many times for it. He stood in the median begging from the cars stopped in the left hand turning lane. One of the guys I worked with saw him hop in a car less than 10 years old and drive off afterwards.
Another case in Ontario was a woman dressed as a bag lady with a limp and collected as much as $2000 a day. A guy from the local paper followed her while she went into an alley and was picked up in a nice car by a younger man. He followed that car to a nice apartment... He figured out which apt. she went into and knocked on the door. She had changed out of her outfit and couldn't close the door fast enough. The reporter got a good glimpse of a large screen TV and other nice amenities. Turns out the driver was her son and they were charged with fraud.
Another case in Ontario was a woman dressed as a bag lady with a limp and collected as much as $2000 a day. A guy from the local paper followed her while she went into an alley and was picked up in a nice car by a younger man. He followed that car to a nice apartment... He figured out which apt. she went into and knocked on the door. She had changed out of her outfit and couldn't close the door fast enough. The reporter got a good glimpse of a large screen TV and other nice amenities. Turns out the driver was her son and they were charged with fraud.
I don't know, what's worse? These guys actually standing out in the weather begging or the welfare mutts I get in line behind at the grocery store buying the name brand good stuff while I buy the cheapest stuff I can find. Then I go out and get in my 18 year old, thousand dollar car and they get in a $35K, year old rig. They go home to a tax payer funded apartment or house with the big screen TV, ATVs in the yard, free cable and internet and spend the day drinking beer and smoking and selling drugs or prostituting their women and kids out while I go home and bust my back trying to make ends meet and build something.
Which is worse? I know where my bet is.
Which is worse? I know where my bet is.
Richard from SE AZ
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Wife and I were in Tucson for a Dr. visit. We were stopped at a RR crossing and there was a drunk vagrant stumbling from car to car in front of us. He was not asking for money, he was demanding it. He got to us, screaming that he needed money and no one would give him any. When I ignored him, he went to the side of the road, picked up a BIG rock and was going to throw it into my windshield. The 45 that got pointed at him made him change his mind and he left, very fast. On the way home we stopped at a convenience store to get gas. At the light on the corner was the same Viet Nam vet that you see at every corner in the country with the same sign. As we were about to leave he walked out of the store with a 12 pack of beer. Did any of you see that Hawaii is going to give their homeless free tickets to the mainland?
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