Cyclo 800 CaseIH corn planter

Bruce from Can.

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Was out the other evening, between rain storms, putting in the last of my corn silage. Maybe had an acre or so left, and the moniter started to scream. So what had happened was the pump quit, the shaft is woren bad, and the pto coupler is sliping. The parts guy at CaseIH told me no parts are available. And he could get me a new pump, $3800. I told him not to put a rush on that order, maybe he could send a e-mail around to other dealrs, or wreckers first, and see what might be out there.So he said he would do that, very good parts man, and will try to help out by sourcing used parts when new are not available. Don't have any other ideas myself, so I am throwing it out there.... Anyone have one of these planters, and any experience with this problem. Or should I just start to look now, for a new corn planter for next year? Bruce
 
540 or 1000 rpm. they are interchanged from 400 thru 955. I just sold a 540 for $250. the 1000 rpm's are a lot more common. an ad on craigslist will proly be a good bet! around here they are scrapping the wide row units and guys are buying them to part out.....one last idea; the planter can be run from some tractors hyd system. I know john deere and case ih or just plain ih have models for this. i'm sure there are more but I can tell you that allis chalmes can't. that's what I run.
 
I have a 6 row 800 that I use, and a 4 row parts planter that has donated much of itself to keep the good one running, including the pump. tom is right- there are lots of pumps on used planters out there.
 

Bruce if you can't find one close to home there is a planter salvage at Onaga, Ks and I am almost certain Koelzer will have what you need. 785-857-3257 is his phone #
 
I don't remember what kind of tractors you have but you can just run it off of your hydraulics on your tractor, but when we did ours we put a return hose from the drain plug of the tractor with a break away on it to plug the pump return into. The oil must return below oil level. If I remember right you just change that hydraulic fitting from a tapered fitting to pipe thread to hook a hose onto. We run a 1466 or 1586 international on our 800 8 row and we have to shut the fan off at the end of the fied to raise the planter, turn around, turn fan back on lower planter and go. You just need to remember to lower the planter a bit earlier because the drum has to reload again. If your tractor has good pressure you may be able to leave the fan on and raise the planter. If your tractor flows too much oil you may have to put a flow valve on your planter hose to regulate air pressure, or if your tractor has a flow control adjust it accordingly to give the right amount of pressure on the ounces gauge.

VERY IMPORTANT! YOU MUST MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN HOSE IS PROPERLY PLUGGED IN OR IT WILL BLOW THE HOSE OFF BY THE ORBIT MOTOR AND EMPTY OUT YOUR TRACTOR HYDRAULICS QUICKLY AS SOON AS FAN IS TURNED ON, don't ask me how i know.




One other thing to check is your pop rivets that hold the hopper together. I had one pop rivet come out and I had trouble holding much over 5 ounces of pressure. One rivet will let the hopper split enough to lose a lot of air.

One other year the orbit motor that runs the fan went bad too and we were unable to build pressure. I tried one from the salvage yard, but that wasn't much better, ended up shelling out 400 for a new one.
 

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