notjustair

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The old man that is the baler guru in the area is 75. He isn't going to live forever. I would like to teach myself the finer adjustments and workings of the JD 24T. Getting a baler to hum is definately an art - I would like to learn it.

Anything I can read or look at that is considered the "square baler bible"? Before you suggest it - the dealer has the poor old guy running pillar to post, so picking his brain isn't an option.
 
Our JD dealer just charges $100 an hour for his "techs" to teach themselves how to work on square balers. Then when they screw them up they say the timing can't be accurately adjusted because its so worn - even when they arrive to the shop working.
 
I assume you have the operator"s manual which has a WEALTH of information on troubleshooting... shows photos of failed knots and what needs to be repaired. etc.. It"s a GOOD start!
 
When I was a pup, a couple of balers came into the shop. The owner (the older one) thought he was pretty good with knotters etc so he had me working on them telling me what to do . It wasn't long and I figured if I have to work on these I better start learning something about them as he was working on the wrong end most of the time from my point of view. I turned a whole lot of flywheels by hand watching every movement of the plunger, needles and knotters. Could I get them all to work perfectly, no, but I did get a pretty good reputation after a while. Problem was I was supposed to be working on the tractors in the shop and not running around along side of a baler out in the hot summer sun or worse yet, having to stack bales at the same time I was checking the balers. I always wished I had a camera to mount on them and then run it back through in slow motion. Wonder if the new digital camcorders would do that. I've been done with them for many years now so not going to worry about it I guess.
 
I've had two 24T's over the years. I helps if the machine is not junk to begin with. Step 2, get an owners manual and go thru every adjustment step in there. I would replace the main drive chain, knotter drive chain and the several shear bolts. Buy an extra set of the bolts. For the flywheel shear bolt, I bought a whole box of 50 and was glad I did. Also, check the U joints and replace any that are sloppy. There is no secret, just get the adjustments correct. The manual explains everything, plenty of pictures too.
 
(quoted from post at 10:33:43 06/14/13) I always wished I had a camera to mount on them and then run it back through in slow motion. Wonder if the new digital camcorders would do that. I've been done with them for many years now so not going to worry about it I guess.

I sat my smart phone inside the knotter frame on my old MF12, pointed it at the bill hook and started the video recording function. Turned the baler through a cycle by hand and then replayed the video back - was ideal for seeing exactly what was(or wasnt) happening.
 
If you can find one of those old "Care and operation of Farm Equipment" books from John Deere it has a lot of info on knotters.
 

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