What twine do ya use?

MF261 · Jun 7, 2013

I have been using Agco sisal in my Allis Chalmers square baler..the quality of the sisal seems to be going down hill..the gentleman that owned the baler said he tried the plastic or nylon twine with negative results..the baler has been missing bales and the only thing i see is the difference in Thickness in twine within the same roll..what do yall use in your square balers?

JD2ACWD · Jun 7, 2013

I used 9000 ft twine,lots of broken bales, last 2 years I have been using 7200 ft twine,maybe get 5 or 6 broken bales out of 1500 bales.

MI AC Parsons · Jun 7, 2013

Limited source, I use what they have at TSC. Always
wonder when I have mis-ties.

Northvale - PA · Jun 7, 2013

I use 9000 sisal for 1st cutting and 7200 for later
cuts. One of my JD 336 balers doesn't like 9000 at
all. I lowered the twine tension adjustment and that
helped. When I use 7200, no bales break. We had 6
broken bales in 1 wagon, what a mess.

Mike in Mn. · Jun 7, 2013

Twine has been awful, Agco is one of the worst, I usually buy about three different brands every year. Holland Extra seems to be the best with Fleet Farms Jaquer SP second best, Brazilian Gold from TSC can go either way. I always use 7200.

MF261 · Jun 7, 2013

I know without a doubt that i will be switching before baling again..been using 9000..thinking i will try 7200 to see if it helps.

Larry NEIL · Jun 7, 2013

HHMMM, I always use 9000 plastic from Farm & Fleet, I think it's from Brazil. Haven't had too many mis-ties. Maybe I'll try some 7200.

Fordfarmer · Jun 7, 2013

I've given up on sisal of any brand, though some
brands are better than others. Been using Bridon
9000' poly from Farm and Fleet (it's made in the
U.S. and Canada)for several years now...no twine
related problems.

farmer boy · Jun 7, 2013

9000 sisal. Usually Bridon Cordage. We tried 9000 poly, but it kept getting burned off by the thrower. The Bridon twine seems to be fairly consistent, but there is the odd thin spot, though it doesn't really seem to affect it's overall 'reliability'

WyoDave · Jun 7, 2013

I use Bridon 9600 plastic, or Bravo 7000 plastic which is 7000
per roll. Both are 170 lb knot strength which is what counts,
not the roll length.

David

hrRoss · Jun 8, 2013

plastic is cheaper, goes thru my jd baler like butter, rarely misses a bale, is more consistant than sisel. if i miss more than 1-2 bales in 4000 im surprised. would never go back to sisel twine, seems it gets worse the heaver twine you use. i use the 170 knot strenth stuff.

RodinNS · Jun 8, 2013

The last two balls of sisal I had got taken from the baler, in the field... and heaved in the woods, never to be seen again.
I use 9000 poly, generally IPCO brand.

The main thing to watch when switching these old balers over to poly is the bill hook opening. When the finger is closed it needs to bite down pretty tight on the hook. If the tip on the finger holds it open so there's a gap... take the hook out, remove the finger... and grind the tip down so it closes tight. You may also be able to get 'poly' bill hooks for the baler but on an oldie like that your luck may not be great. Regardless, grinding the finger down will work. Beyond that... just make adjustments to twine tension and the holder tension so it doesn't allow the twine to slip from the twine disc... then brighten up the twine knives and reset the clearance on the wiper. That's assuming the knotter isn't just plum worn out...

Rod

showcrop · Jun 8, 2013

I switched over to 9000 poly probably six years ago. I asked a couple friends about it first. On the box it said "works in all properly adjusted knotters". So since you will be going through your baler's adjustments before use anyway you should have no problems. The only problem that I have with it is as farmer boy said every now and then thrower will burn through a string after coming out of the windrow at the end.

Brendon Warren · Jun 8, 2013

I used to use 9000 portuguese with pretty good luck, but my guy ran out of it late last season so I tried the poly 170/9600 and it didn't give me a minutes trouble. That's on a John Deere 327 and a336.

Don-Wi · Jun 8, 2013

We buy from Fleet farm, and if in a pinch, TSC. Both stores sell the exact same sisal twine with a different outer package. Once they're in the baler, they have the exact same paper sleeve and you can't tell a difference between the 2. We ussually go with 9000, but if we start having problems we'll go back to 7200.

New holland is about the same price, but up until last year we never had anything NH on the farm so never go to the dealer. Never even knew AGCO sold twine...

Donovan from Wisconsin

Bret4207 · Jun 8, 2013

I've given up on sisal completely too. I use 20K poly in the round baler and 9K in the square. I'd try 7200 poly but I've never seen any for sale in my area.

Noticed all twine was up about $2.00 a bale this year. Anyone else remember buying top grade NH sisal for $11.00 a bale? It was less if you bought by the pallet ahead of the season.

onefarmer · Jun 8, 2013

I use 9600 poly in my NH570. I need the added strength of the 9600 over the 9000. I used to use 7200 sisal but it was too inconsistent.

old · Jun 8, 2013

With my square baler I use the plastic twine and have for decades. That said on some balers to use it the bill hooks need to be replaced with the ones made for plastic or adjusted to work. I gave up on the sisal twine about 30 years ago

rankrank1 · Jun 8, 2013

I use 9000 sisal in my square baler. I get it from my local AGCO/New Holland dealer (a couple bucks cheaper than TSC too). That said it is not AGCO brand or even New Holland brand twine. They get it from some independent supplier that the dealer has had good luck selling so I am not sure of the brand. No issues at all with it and I will continue to use it as I prefer Sisal over plastic (as long as it is quality sisal).

chevytaHOE5674 · Jun 8, 2013

I use New Holland 7200 Sisal in the square baler and last year on 2k square bales only missed one tie. I use 20k plastic of whatever I can find for the round baler, would use Sisal but the round bales sit on the ground and the Sisal rots off too quickly.

Bret4207 · Jun 9, 2013

(quoted from post at 08:05:50 06/08/13) I use 9600 poly in my NH570. I need the added strength of the 9600 over the 9000. I used to use 7200 sisal but it was too inconsistent.

Usually the 9000 or 9600 refers to the amount of twine in a ball. Did you find a brand that has stronger 9600 than 9000? Normally works the other way around. I have seen some with breaking ratings of 170 or 190.

onefarmer · Jun 9, 2013

In poly the 9600 is a stronger knot strength over the 9000. Orangeline 9000 is 130 knot and the 9600 is 170. In sisal 9000 is still 130, but 7200 is 170. Orangeline is the only brand name I remember but it holds true for what I have bought from TSC(Orangeline), my NH dealer, my MF dealer, and a local feed store.

Bret4207 · Jun 10, 2013

(quoted from post at 16:12:45 06/09/13) In poly the 9600 is a stronger knot strength over the 9000. Orangeline 9000 is 130 knot and the 9600 is 170. In sisal 9000 is still 130, but 7200 is 170. Orangeline is the only brand name I remember but it holds true for what I have bought from TSC(Orangeline), my NH dealer, my MF dealer, and a local feed store.

Huh. Well, ya learn sumthin' every day. I stand corrected. Now,does that refer just to the knot strength or to the tensile strength of the twine too?

onefarmer · Jun 10, 2013

I don't remember a tensile strength rating but one would think if the knot is stronger then the twine must be too. I do know the 9600 is a thicker twine then the 9000.

Bret4207 · Jun 11, 2013

(quoted from post at 06:57:26 06/10/13) I don't remember a tensile strength rating but one would think if the knot is stronger then the twine must be too. I do know the 9600 is a thicker twine then the 9000.

See, that makes no sense to me. Any twine I've ever bought, the lower the footage (9000 vs 9600) the thicker/stronger the twine. 20,000 is about 1/2 the diameter of 9000. Maybe the 9600 is a different material?

onefarmer · Jun 11, 2013

The ball is a lot bigger to make up for the thickness and added length. In the pic 9600 on the left and 9000 on the right. I also use 20K in the round baler and it's real close to the same ball size as the 9000. I've never seen a longer than 9000 in sisal.

Oh and for the curious folks they are sitting on a head off a Gleaner F2 Chevy 292

Orangeline twines

Bret4207 · Jun 12, 2013

Huh, like I said, you learn something new everyday.

What twine do ya use?

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