What would you buy?

Jake Collie · Mar 28, 2013

Sooner or later (hopefully later) I will be looking for another tractor. I would like to stay under $10,000.00. I would like to have at least 80 horse, decent rear tires, 3 point 2 wheel drive, no cab, 5000 hours or less. I"m thinking of maybe an IH 1066 or a JD 4020 or something similar, but I am open to any color. What can you buy in your area for that kind of money?

Fordfarmer · Mar 28, 2013

I'm biased in favor of Fords, so of course that's what I'd say to buy...
You'll probably have a hard time staying under 5000 hours.
$10k should get you a nice 7000 or 76/7700. Maybe even a 76/7710, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that. They are rated 83 (7000), 84 (76/7700) and 86 h.p. (76/7710). It would also get you a 8/9000 or 86/9600 with money left, but I generally don't look real hard at them - too much age for that size, and various problems that are too common. You might be able to find a 87/9700 (110 and 135 h.p)in that price range, but it will be hard to find one without a cab. They have a better transmission than the 8/9000 and 86/9600's.

oldtanker · Mar 28, 2013

Something that old in my area with under 5K hours, 1066 or 4020? The only way yer gonna find that is if it's had the tach replaced or the hour meter turned over! Here for 10K or less you can get a 5-6K hours 1086 if you shop around. Similar sized JD built when the 1086 was would be in the 10-15K range again if you shop around and take your time to look.

Area/location is going to really determine the value. I paid 4500 for a 1206IH a couple of years ago. My 1st daughters FIL paid 2500 for a 1206 in nicer condition, with hub duals 300 miles west of me about 5 years before I got mine.

AS far as the 1066 vs the 4020, both were good tractors with many still being used today. the 1066 was rated at 125 PTO HP and the 4020 at 95. So if you need 95HP or less it's a toss up. If you need more or may need more than 95HP then it's the 1066 or a large JD.

RIck

DeltaRed · Mar 28, 2013

The 1066 is 130 horse,4020 is 95.Here,the 4020 will bring several thousand more than the '10'.Just about any 100 plus HP tractor from the late '60s/very early '70s will be under $10,000.The 'off'(Ford,Oliver,Case,AC.....) brands will give more "bang for the buck".

paul · Mar 28, 2013

I agree, bias and all...

I think finding those hours for that price will be difficult, as you are in a popular tractor size these days, prices have really gone up in the last 4 years on good used stuff.

Oliver has some good machines in that price range and size, kind of an under sung machine. But again, finding old stuff with less than 5000 hours either the meter is broke or you'll be paying a premium?

Paul

NY 986 · Mar 28, 2013

You should be able to buy a White 2-85 and have money left over. IH 766. Early JD 4020. I like 4020's but would probably look at the others first as you can get more for your dollar.

Fritz Maurer · Mar 28, 2013

I've got nothing against Deere, but if early 4020s are like early 3020s, hydraulic control levers on the left side of the steering column is a really bad idea.

Jake Collie · Mar 28, 2013

Thanks for all the replies. I realize 5000 hours is a low number. I just don't want to spend the money on a very high hour tractor and then spend more in a little while to rebuild it. I have a lot of time to look, so i can be a little choosy. Thanks again.

Part Time Pete · Mar 28, 2013

I've got an Oliver 1775 that I picked up for $6,500 with 4000 hours on it, but I had to look for a long time and be in the right spot at the right time. I love the tractor, it's great for haying. If I could, I would love to have a White 2-105, but I can't afford it.
One of my buddies has a 1066 that he picked up for $10,00. He likes it, but it's pretty thirsty.
He's got a 756 that's great on fuel though. He got that for $7,000

ss55 · Mar 28, 2013

How will you be using the tractor and how many acres/hours will it be used per year: heavy tillage; yard loader tractor; daily feeding & manure hauling; haying; etc? What is the biggest implement you have that it needs to handle?

Jake Collie · Mar 28, 2013

40 acres max. 4 or 5 bottom plow, 14' disc, 9' discbine. No loader work. half corn half hay. No manure hauling-cash crop.

Mike M · Mar 28, 2013

Can't go wrong with a 4020 if you find a good buy on one. That's really hard to do anymore.
You can move up to a 4230 deere with a cab on it for less then many 4020's.
A tractor like that with truely only 5000 hrs is going to be a rare bird. Might find some with gas engines though.

For strickly power for money spent if no care about resale then other colors will be better suited.

Bob Bancroft · Mar 28, 2013

Yes they are.
Why?
I prefer them there.

G1355 · Mar 28, 2013

I'd get a 1850 Oliver, the Perkins will be very efficient, they have a good rear end and the over/under makes them a nice tractor to drive, when you have 3 speeds in every gear you can about match the exact speed of whatever implement your pulling, and it will be cheaper than a 4020,or 1066 for the same power as the 4020, it will be a little short of a 1066.

rrlund · Mar 28, 2013

White 2-85. Has the better hydraulics and brakes of the 1855 Oliver with the 354 Perkins engine in it.

rufus80 · Mar 28, 2013

Allis 6080

FarmerZeb · Mar 28, 2013

I've been considering a Massey for our next tractor. Around my area they seem to be reasonably priced hp.

-paul

VicS · Mar 28, 2013

6080 Allis is a good choice. But can't beat a Deere. My son bought a 4040 JD with a Cab for $8000. Air was cold. It has been rode hard and put away wet. But has been dependable. 8900 hrs and the motor uses no oil and started the other day after sitting all winter and with no ether and no jump. When we got it the oil had not been changed for 8 yrs. Driving it home wouldn't pull hills in hi gear. air-cleaner and fuel filters stoped up. Can't beat a Deere. Reason they are No. 1 in big tractors.

Vic

dhermesc · Mar 28, 2013

Can you buy a good 4020 for $10,000? I watched a decent (not sharp by any means) IH 806 sell two weeks ago for $8500 and it only started after a huge shot of ether. Good condition JDs the same HP rating seem to start at $12,000 and only go up from there.

In the $10,000 and under range I'd think you'd have to look at an AC D21 or 210, or a White 2-105.

RandyB(MI) · Mar 28, 2013

For the money and just plain reliable and good looking tractor , Case 970 or 1070 (93 hp , 108 hp respectfully) anywhere from $7000 to $9000 for a good solid one,depending on cond and hrs. Collectors hav'nt drove them up yet like the JD. A 93 hp 970 will make a stock 92 hp 4020 wish it had stayed home.lol

rrlund · Mar 28, 2013

Wow,it started without ether? Mine had a can a week habit. Hard on fuel too for what it was.
You bought it for $8000 though?. I'd buy my old one back for sentimental value if I could find it and buy it for that.

John A. · Mar 28, 2013

Jake, IH 1066, 966, 806 all day long. A 966 will have more HP that a 4020 by a stretch and can be bought in the 8K range.IMO the most over looked IH tractor made, Mine and I Know Allen in Neb's 966 will out work a 4020 all day long and twice on Sunday!!! 806 in the 6K to 7K range in good shape. 1066 in the 10K range or less depending on condition.
JD in the 95 hp range the most over looked Deere is a 4030 @ 80Hp, or the 4230 @ 95 Hp....the 4230 is a 4020 in 30 series tin with better Hydraulics and better front end to hold up a loader!!!
***** IMO,,,,
Tractor House is as good a representation of price and condition I know of......
The older tractor are scarce on Dealer Lots in my area, the newer tractors one are not. The local Used equipment dealers on occasion have pretty nice stuff but you had better be on top of it!
Saw a JD 4520 bring 9k the other day But to me it may have been questionable on being really worth that, Decent paint, ok tin, 60% rubber it just didn't level out and run as I thought it should.
Hope this helps!
Later,
John A.

hd6gtom · Mar 28, 2013

Jake what dealers do you have close to you? You can buy Oliver's,Case, Masseys, Or Allis around here for far less than green or red. Late 7000 AC's are a good buy in this neck of the woods.

rufus80 · Mar 28, 2013

If you look at data the allis pulls the same using 1.5 to 2 gallons less fuel. Just because it is green doesn't make it better. I am not bias, I own green, red, and orange tractors.

Robert Major · Mar 29, 2013

Hi
If you go the case route don't go power shift they can be very expensive to fix with parts and labor, if it has to go to the dealers when it goes wrong.
My friend runs an 1175 and 870 for that reason Standard trans.
It took a long while to find a non power shift case round here when he was looking for his 1175.
He paid $7000 with 7000 hrs, and a bit of time in my shop going through some stuff like lights and leaks/general service and odd bits. That was 3 years ago now and it's been a good tractor. some of the cases get pourouse liners in the motors to so watch that as well.
A power shift that old round us only makes 4000 on a good day and there are loads of them around, 2290 type about $10.000+ It's cheaper to chuck it and buy another when the trans quits lol.
on the 4230/ 30 series in general Deeres the rear end is known to be weak round this area, and guys prefer the later 40 series as it has updated parts.
I guess it all depends on how abused any tractor was before you got it. Basically at your budget it's a bit of a turkey shoot what you do end up with. also remember what the parts cost too , I find $2000 for genuine parts don't buy a lot some days, if your on a smaller farm budget, an expensive break down can ruin ya month pretty quick.

Regards Robert

dhermesc · Mar 29, 2013

In my area a GOOD 1066, 966 or 856 can't be bought for $10,000. 4-10 years ago you could buy them that cheap or cheaper - not any more.

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