OT - Milking by Hand

Brian G. NY

Well-known Member
This is a neat picture of my Wife's Granddad's hired man milking. This was probably taken in the mid to late 60s. They actually did have a milking machine and he was just "stripping out" the cow as we used to call it. Credit for the photo goes to my late F.I.L.
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When I was a kid, that's how we milked our cows. Both of them.
Imagine my amazement when I went to work on a dairy farm!
They had those new fangled milking machines that you carried from
cow to cow, washed the machine tips and plugged into vacuum lines.
Hung the strap over the cow's back, washed the cow, hooked it up and
waited for it to do everything automatically until you decided it was done
and took it off and carried it to the next cow. 400 or so at that time. :roll:
Great photo, brings back a lot of memories! :)
 
Way way back when? I think I was about 3-5 yrs old my uncle was hand milking the cows. He would squirt milk about 10-15 ft. into the cats mouth. One time he squirted me all over my face, the cat loved licking the milk off.
Bob
God Bless
 
I must have handmilked over a 100.000 cows before i was 25.
I bought a milking machine in 76 cause by then i was milking 24 of the critters by my lonesome when my dad past away.
When we were early teens Me and my brother had many a squirting fight underneath the cows (when dad wasn't looking ofcourse) :lol:
 
You were shown the moon and stars.At least that's what grandpa told me when he pulled it on me.
My hands cramp up just thinking about milking cows by hand again.We had forty head back then.
 
In the 60's, my grandmother milked 4 cows by hand. Always outside unless it was pouring rain, then it was under an open shed. Somehow I never got the hang of milkin'. :)
 
In our little dairy we had vacuum milkers from the get-go, and I have no regrets that I missed out on the hand-milking thing. Actually I didn't miss out completely---a few times our power went out and we had to milk by hand, about 30 head.

It didn't take but two or three times doing that until my dad decided there had to be a better way. He came up with a thing that he could hook up to his old '48 Ford pickup: he took out a spark plug and screwed in this device, and the truck engine would pull enough of vacuum to run two milkers. Don't ask me how it worked---I'm just glad it did.
 
(quoted from post at 22:52:35 03/09/13) In our little dairy we had vacuum milkers from the get-go, and I have no regrets that I missed out on the hand-milking thing. Actually I didn't miss out completely---a few times our power went out and we had to milk by hand, about 30 head.

It didn't take but two or three times doing that until my dad decided there had to be a better way. He came up with a thing that he could hook up to his old '48 Ford pickup: [b:dfdb4e33d2]he took out a spark plug and screwed in this device, and the truck engine would pull enough of vacuum[/b:dfdb4e33d2] to run two milkers. Don't ask me how it worked---I'm just glad it did.
hat would make an aircompressor,..not a vacpump.
 
(quoted from post at 22:58:08 03/09/13)
(quoted from post at 22:52:35 03/09/13) In our little dairy we had vacuum milkers from the get-go, and I have no regrets that I missed out on the hand-milking thing. Actually I didn't miss out completely---a few times our power went out and we had to milk by hand, about 30 head.

It didn't take but two or three times doing that until my dad decided there had to be a better way. He came up with a thing that he could hook up to his old '48 Ford pickup: [b:a0991888cf]he took out a spark plug and screwed in this device, and the truck engine would pull enough of vacuum[/b:a0991888cf] to run two milkers. Don't ask me how it worked---I'm just glad it did.
hat would make an aircompressor,..not a vacpump.

Unless it had a checkvalve in it, then it would only suck on the intake stroke. Not much vaccuum, but enough I would guess. Would work much better if the intake air to that cylinder could be shut off....
 
As I said, I don't know how it worked, it just did. I was just a kid, but I remember that old truck idling outside the barn door, with a hose running through the window and connected to one of the stanchion valves.
 
Heres a fact: you can still do that today if you wish,still works the same way. Milk still has to be squezzed out the end of a cows teat,and as it is 5:30am , I am about to go and do that very thing. With milkers of corase. Bruce
 
(quoted from post at 04:29:28 03/10/13) Probley was on the intake manifold, and not a spark plug hole. Next door neighbourgh had a Case S tractor with a Surge vacume cock on the intake maniold just for that reason. Bruce.

The attachment was to the intake manifold not spark plug for milking using a gasoline engine.
 
JerryS you brought out an old memory. My Dad had a spark plug pump with an old Studebaker truck and we also primed our irrigation pump with an attachment to the intake manifold. We still prime our pump with a gas truck.
 
Back in the 60's and before dad bought a portable generator he would take the plug out of the intake manifold on the Farmall 350 and hook it up to the milking machine's vacumn line and watch the guage and ran 2 milker instead of 3
 
we milked 90 head by hand when the power went out. we had 6 delaval milking machines with electric pulsators, after a few times without power dad had them changed to vacuum pulsators, cut a hole in the wall by the pump and ran it off the pulley on the 77. those were the days, chuck
 
(quoted from post at 04:52:54 03/10/13) JerryS you brought out an old memory. My Dad had a spark plug pump with an old Studebaker truck and we also primed our irrigation pump with an attachment to the intake manifold. We still prime our pump with a gas truck.

When I was a kid, the farmer that I worked for had a hose, of which one end went in the spark plug hole and the other end went on a valve stem, for airing up a soft tire etc. It was a Ford option. One of my 901 fords came from a dairy farm in western NY. The PO had a milking system vacuum valve brazed into the intake manifold.
 
I still remember the first time I got a milker to run, I had a fresh cow that was just killing me to hand milk after I'd broken some bones in my right hand. We'd hand milked goats and cows for years. Got a package deal on an old universal pump and bucket milker. My FIL and I hitched it up. Once the rodeo ended in getting the cow to stand still, we just stood and watched it run! It was like magic. She filled the bucket and then some! No wonder my hands were killing me.
 
I could just see a bloated, gassy cow farting, and flyin out of the
stable, dragging a tractor, by the little hose, that somebody hooked
up wrong, like a far side cartoon!
 
City boy to the country with wife and 4 siblings.

Neighbor is an old time "insider".

I'm his recreation.

Has a young freshened Holstein/whiteface cow he doesn't want.

Told me to take it home and bring it back when I didn't want it any more.

Within the week I asked what he wanted for it.....$850 wow and I'll tell you why in a minute if you don't already know. $850-900 is what the pure bred freshened holsteins brought. He said you can pay it out $100 a month.

After a week her name was buttercup. Milk had 50% butterfat and some times I just sturred it up and drank it that way yummmmmmmmmmmmy. Now the good part.

The teats were 2" long, too short for the hand and the automated milker.

I milked her twice daily for a couple of years with the thumb, index finger and middle finger. That's all that would fit. You wouldn't believe the muscle I developed between the thumb and index and is still there today some 30 years later.

Mark
 
Do any of you guys have any milkers left? I would like to have a milk cow, but I HATED hand milking as a kid, and don't really see that changing as an old man. I would sure be interested in buying one!!
 
Brian G.,

That is the best photo! I think you should frame it and hang it. Reminds me of my grandpa.
 
My wife tells a story of her grandparents.They milked about 10 hd by hand up untill the early 70's.Grandma always did the milking.She took ill one time and couldnt milk so it was up to gramps to get er done.Well the cows being used to gram wouldnt have noth'n to do with gramps.They would carry on kick'n and fly'n around.Gramps was beside himself couldnt get them to cooperate at all.Finally went to the house put on grannys bonnet and apron and proceeded to get em milked.A little old timer ingenuity!LOL
 
Holy cow, DIY, I nearly spit my hot tea out my nose!

I don't know any other group of people that could get a kick out of a comment like that. I might still be laughing about that at evening chores.
 
So you took the job figuring you'd have to milk by hand? Or did you already know they had the new milking machines?
 
WG, I still have my dad's laying around here somewhere. If I run across it I'll post a photo sometime.

I'm sure the other guys are correct about the milking device being hooked up to the intake manifold, since we never launched a cow through the roof of the barn. I think I probably assumed it went into a spark plug hole, mainly because this pump device went into a spark hole. That was over 60 years ago and things tend to get a little fuzzy.
 
(quoted from post at 06:49:50 03/10/13) City boy to the country with wife and 4 siblings.

Neighbor is an old time "insider".

I'm his recreation.

Has a young freshened Holstein/whiteface cow he doesn't want.

Told me to take it home and bring it back when I didn't want it any more.

Within the week I asked what he wanted for it.....$850 wow and I'll tell you why in a minute if you don't already know. $850-900 is what the pure bred freshened holsteins brought. He said you can pay it out $100 a month.

After a week her name was buttercup. Milk had 50% butterfat and some times I just sturred it up and drank it that way yummmmmmmmmmmmy. Now the good part.

The teats were 2" long, too short for the hand and the automated milker.

I milked her twice daily for a couple of years with the thumb, index finger and middle finger. That's all that would fit. You wouldn't believe the muscle I developed between the thumb and index and is still there today some 30 years later.

Mark
Are you sure you didn't mean 5% butterfat? 50% is a bit of wishful thinking, especially for a holstein......
 
Yep, we had that petcock on our 8N, and I remember using it when the power was out. I worked with the Surge guy 20 years later, at PCA, and he said he always made sure with every installation that the farmer had a petcock installed on his tractor, with enough hose to reach. He said "Maybe the guy will think kindly of me when he needs it, but for darn sure he'll be cussing me if he doesn't have it."
 
(quoted from post at 07:13:25 03/10/13) Do any of you guys have any milkers left? I would like to have a milk cow, but I HATED hand milking as a kid, and don't really see that changing as an old man. I would sure be interested in buying one!!
still have a complete underslung choreboy system kicking around, been trying to sell it here but no takers. :shock:
I think its to much trouble for 1 cow though with the cleaning and all.
Its much quiker to just pull t!ts. :wink:

There is here only 2 dairyfarmers left in a 150 ml radius left.
they milk 450 cows between the 2
 
When I was working on the neighbors farm we had a Farmall Cub we would use to milk with if the power was out. It would run a Surge and a Delaval milker.
The neighbor always had a special cow for the house milk and he would always milk her by hand. Don't know why and never asked.
 
I grew up milking cows by hand. We always had at least 2 milking cows, but usually 3 or 4 and for a couple of years 5. Back in the 60"s it was legal to sell raw milk if the customers came to the farm to get it. We had lots of customers, both from the neighborhood and from Spokane. Some of them told us that they preferred our milk to the milk sold by other farms in the area. They said our milk was cleaner and smelled better than some they got from other farms. My Dad and I were always very careful to clean up our cows before we milked. The milk was the same milk that our family drank.

We bought a nice Holstein heifer soon after we moved to the ranch in the late 50"s. She was all Holstein, but did not have registration papers. She grew up into a wonderful milk cow--super easy to milk, tame and gentle. And she had nice calves, a couple of times by AI, but usually bred by whatever bull we happened to have. One of her calves was a beautiful blue roan, who also became a good milk cow, but most were black whitefaces, which were harder to milk. Our first milk cow was a milking shorthorn, who milked OK, but she occasionally kicked viciously, once hurting my Dad fairly bad. When my older brother left for college and I took over the chores, that somewhat dangerous cow went to the stockyards. Most of our other milk cows were daughters of the Holstein or the milking shorthorn.

Milking the Holstein was easy. She had large teats that seemed made to be hand milked. It was very little effort to milk her, and very quickly she would fill a full pail and most of another. Most of her daughters were also quite easy to milk, except of a couple of the Hereford crosses. The Shorthorns were a different matter. Most of them had much smaller teats, which required lots longer milking times, since you got much less milk per squirt than the Holsteins. One of the cows we milked for a couple of years had a habit of jumping around while she was being milked and often kicking over the milk pail. Finally we just hobbled her before every milking, the only cow we ever had to do that with. Every cow had their own personality, and most of them I had raised from the time they were baby calves. I enjoyed most of them, at least most of the time.

After we did the milking, we would carry the pails of milk to the house. In the back porch we had a fairly large separator. We would use the large bowl on the top of the separator to strain the whole milk and used the valve to run whole milk into glass or plastic gallon jars, that went immediately to the old refrigerator on the porch for cooling and storage until a customer showed up. Any milk that was not going to be sold as whole milk ran through the separator. The separated cream was collected and was taken to the local creamery about once a week in a special cream can. The cream brought pretty good money at the creamery. We drank lots of skim milk in those days, and any we didn"t use in the house was fed to the hogs we always were raising. Some of our customers also bought cream and eggs from us. My parents saved most of the money they collected from our little "dairy" operation and banked it. When I went to college, they helped finance that endeavor with the dairy money. I worked very hard all the time I was growing up, but I didn"t realize that most kids didn"t. That was just the way I was brought up and I am sure it strongly affected how I am today.

But that was then, this is now! I think it is illegal to sell raw, uninspected milk or cream from a farm. A few years ago, I asked at the same creamery if they still bought cream from small farmers. I was told that they had not been able to do that for about 20 years, due to regulations and the fear that somehow they might get sued if someone thought they got sick from cream they could not say for sure came from a single source.

When my kids were young, I considered getting a milk cow. But I remembered how much work it was when I was growing up: milking morning and night, every day; and haying, feeding, dealing with a water source that would need to be kept from freezing; and the need for more than one bovine not the cow"s calf, to keep the cow happy; and constantly needing to deal with fences and the need for a cow barn. And the fact that I couldn"t legally sell any excess milk products to partly pay for the cow"s keep. I decided that having a milk cow again was something I would not do again. It was cheaper and a whole lot easier to just buy milk for my kids in the supermarket.

Over the years, I became unable to digest milk, and it REALLY upset my stomach if I tried. I suppose I am lactose intolerant. The kids have all grown up and my wife drinks no milk either. Occasionally we buy milk if grandkids are going to be staying with us.

In my opinion, it just is not worth it to milk a cow these days. A cow ties you down way too much to THEIR routine. Unless you really enjoy milking and consider that fun, I don"t think milking a single cow would ever be worth the costs and hassle. Store milk is just too easy and relatively inexpensive. But that is just my OPINION! Good luck.
 
(quoted from post at 07:13:25 03/10/13) Do any of you guys have any milkers left? I would like to have a milk cow, but I HATED hand milking as a kid, and don't really see that changing as an old man. I would sure be interested in buying one!!

You can still get a brand new bucket milker system from www.partsdeptonline.com or you can ask around anywhere in dairy country and probably get a dozen offers. I have the Universal and a Surge. I've never used the Surge but I use the shells off it since the Universal had much heavier brass shells. It's enough of a problem for me to hold the claw and tubing with my arthritic hands without the added weight of the brass shells. The Surge has light stainless shells.
 
Still got a few Surge buckets and the compressor here from milking days. They are more trouble than they are worth unless you have quite a few to milk. Hand milking was not that hard and the clean up time on those milking machines took a lot of the saving out of it . I milked cows by hand for years. Hand cranked separators too. Still got the old IH model 2S separator in the barn. Plus a Delaval electric. Got a good picture to post if I can find it.
 
The milker hose went to the intake manifold. AC tractors had a 1/8 pipe plug.....took that out and screwed in a pipe from a grease gun, put the hose on that. Gave a limited supply so ran only 2 milkers. The spark plug thing- was for pumping up tires. As a teen I used one in a one cyl engine, driven by a quarter horse motor, to make an air compressor. Extremely slow, had no tank.
 
We always milked ours by hand at least to get what we needed for house and few others. Then we bought small deecon calves from the dairy farms and let them have the rest. Usually got them for $25 and sold them for veal at 200-250 #. Sure beat throwing out milk. I'm sure some were bought for feeders because they sure looked slick at that weight on nothing but milk. Got some pretty strong wrists/fingers that paid off later when riding moto-cross.
 
(quoted from post at 11:56:59 03/10/13) So you took the job figuring you'd have to milk by hand? Or did you already know they had the new milking machines?
I didn't have a clue either way to be honest. I was 14 I think.
I took the job to make a little money and learn some new things.
I accomplished both, but mostly the later.
 
(quoted from post at 15:06:25 03/10/13) I grew up milking cows by hand. We always had at least 2 milking cows, but usually 3 or 4 and for a couple of years 5. Back in the 60"s it was legal to sell raw milk if the customers came to the farm to get it. We had lots of customers, both from the neighborhood and from Spokane. Some of them told us that they preferred our milk to the milk sold by other farms in the area. They said our milk was cleaner and smelled better than some they got from other farms. My Dad and I were always very careful to clean up our cows before we milked. The milk was the same milk that our family drank.

We bought a nice Holstein heifer soon after we moved to the ranch in the late 50"s. She was all Holstein, but did not have registration papers. She grew up into a wonderful milk cow--super easy to milk, tame and gentle. And she had nice calves, a couple of times by AI, but usually bred by whatever bull we happened to have. One of her calves was a beautiful blue roan, who also became a good milk cow, but most were black whitefaces, which were harder to milk. Our first milk cow was a milking shorthorn, who milked OK, but she occasionally kicked viciously, once hurting my Dad fairly bad. When my older brother left for college and I took over the chores, that somewhat dangerous cow went to the stockyards. Most of our other milk cows were daughters of the Holstein or the milking shorthorn.

Milking the Holstein was easy. She had large teats that seemed made to be hand milked. It was very little effort to milk her, and very quickly she would fill a full pail and most of another. Most of her daughters were also quite easy to milk, except of a couple of the Hereford crosses. The Shorthorns were a different matter. Most of them had much smaller teats, which required lots longer milking times, since you got much less milk per squirt than the Holsteins. One of the cows we milked for a couple of years had a habit of jumping around while she was being milked and often kicking over the milk pail. Finally we just hobbled her before every milking, the only cow we ever had to do that with. Every cow had their own personality, and most of them I had raised from the time they were baby calves. I enjoyed most of them, at least most of the time.

After we did the milking, we would carry the pails of milk to the house. In the back porch we had a fairly large separator. We would use the large bowl on the top of the separator to strain the whole milk and used the valve to run whole milk into glass or plastic gallon jars, that went immediately to the old refrigerator on the porch for cooling and storage until a customer showed up. Any milk that was not going to be sold as whole milk ran through the separator. The separated cream was collected and was taken to the local creamery about once a week in a special cream can. The cream brought pretty good money at the creamery. We drank lots of skim milk in those days, and any we didn"t use in the house was fed to the hogs we always were raising. Some of our customers also bought cream and eggs from us. My parents saved most of the money they collected from our little "dairy" operation and banked it. When I went to college, they helped finance that endeavor with the dairy money. I worked very hard all the time I was growing up, but I didn"t realize that most kids didn"t. That was just the way I was brought up and I am sure it strongly affected how I am today.

But that was then, this is now! I think it is illegal to sell raw, uninspected milk or cream from a farm. A few years ago, I asked at the same creamery if they still bought cream from small farmers. I was told that they had not been able to do that for about 20 years, due to regulations and the fear that somehow they might get sued if someone thought they got sick from cream they could not say for sure came from a single source.

When my kids were young, I considered getting a milk cow. But I remembered how much work it was when I was growing up: milking morning and night, every day; and haying, feeding, dealing with a water source that would need to be kept from freezing; and the need for more than one bovine not the cow"s calf, to keep the cow happy; and constantly needing to deal with fences and the need for a cow barn. And the fact that I couldn"t legally sell any excess milk products to partly pay for the cow"s keep. I decided that having a milk cow again was something I would not do again. It was cheaper and a whole lot easier to just buy milk for my kids in the supermarket.

Over the years, I became unable to digest milk, and it REALLY upset my stomach if I tried. I suppose I am lactose intolerant. The kids have all grown up and my wife drinks no milk either. Occasionally we buy milk if grandkids are going to be staying with us.

In my opinion, it just is not worth it to milk a cow these days. A cow ties you down way too much to THEIR routine. Unless you really enjoy milking and consider that fun, I don"t think milking a single cow would ever be worth the costs and hassle. [b:dd5b4d0bf3]Store milk [/b:dd5b4d0bf3]is just too easy and relatively inexpensive. But that is just my OPINION! Good luck.
hat ain't milk no more, You may as wel drink water

I grew up in Europe,We milked 24 cows .My dad used to buy fresh milkcows with an issue on the stockyards just because they were cheap and milk and fatten them up at the same time,by the time they went down in milk production they were fat and sold to a butcher.
More often than not these cows he brought home were 3 teaters and or a teat that was stepped on ,or cows and heifers with very large or really small teats and lots of edema in the udder(one could only milk the latter between thumb and first finger) Some of them could kick like a mule,some kicked so high they knocked a hole in the barn ceiling.
It took at times 3 of us to milk one of these rascals,but with hobbles on, a bullring with a rope in the nose stretched across the feed isle and a pitchfork against the side to prevent the critter from dropping itself on the milker we usually could get them more or less to coperate till they after a few sessions admitted defeat and behave.It sure made wildcow milking on a rodeo here a rather tame affair.
I don't think after all the experience i gathered over the years there isn't a cow born i can't milk.
But I'm glad those years are behind me :wink:
 
(quoted from post at 15:06:25 03/10/13) I grew up milking cows by hand. We always had at least 2 milking cows, but usually 3 or 4 and for a couple of years 5. Back in the 60"s it was legal to sell raw milk if the customers came to the farm to get it. We had lots of customers, both from the neighborhood and from Spokane. Some of them told us that they preferred our milk to the milk sold by other farms in the area. They said our milk was cleaner and smelled better than some they got from other farms. My Dad and I were always very careful to clean up our cows before we milked. The milk was the same milk that our family drank.

We bought a nice Holstein heifer soon after we moved to the ranch in the late 50"s. She was all Holstein, but did not have registration papers. She grew up into a wonderful milk cow--super easy to milk, tame and gentle. And she had nice calves, a couple of times by AI, but usually bred by whatever bull we happened to have. One of her calves was a beautiful blue roan, who also became a good milk cow, but most were black whitefaces, which were harder to milk. Our first milk cow was a milking shorthorn, who milked OK, but she occasionally kicked viciously, once hurting my Dad fairly bad. When my older brother left for college and I took over the chores, that somewhat dangerous cow went to the stockyards. Most of our other milk cows were daughters of the Holstein or the milking shorthorn.

Milking the Holstein was easy. She had large teats that seemed made to be hand milked. It was very little effort to milk her, and very quickly she would fill a full pail and most of another. Most of her daughters were also quite easy to milk, except of a couple of the Hereford crosses. The Shorthorns were a different matter. Most of them had much smaller teats, which required lots longer milking times, since you got much less milk per squirt than the Holsteins. One of the cows we milked for a couple of years had a habit of jumping around while she was being milked and often kicking over the milk pail. Finally we just hobbled her before every milking, the only cow we ever had to do that with. Every cow had their own personality, and most of them I had raised from the time they were baby calves. I enjoyed most of them, at least most of the time.

After we did the milking, we would carry the pails of milk to the house. In the back porch we had a fairly large separator. We would use the large bowl on the top of the separator to strain the whole milk and used the valve to run whole milk into glass or plastic gallon jars, that went immediately to the old refrigerator on the porch for cooling and storage until a customer showed up. Any milk that was not going to be sold as whole milk ran through the separator. The separated cream was collected and was taken to the local creamery about once a week in a special cream can. The cream brought pretty good money at the creamery. We drank lots of skim milk in those days, and any we didn"t use in the house was fed to the hogs we always were raising. Some of our customers also bought cream and eggs from us. My parents saved most of the money they collected from our little "dairy" operation and banked it. When I went to college, they helped finance that endeavor with the dairy money. I worked very hard all the time I was growing up, but I didn"t realize that most kids didn"t. That was just the way I was brought up and I am sure it strongly affected how I am today.

But that was then, this is now! I think it is illegal to sell raw, uninspected milk or cream from a farm. A few years ago, I asked at the same creamery if they still bought cream from small farmers. I was told that they had not been able to do that for about 20 years, due to regulations and the fear that somehow they might get sued if someone thought they got sick from cream they could not say for sure came from a single source.

When my kids were young, I considered getting a milk cow. But I remembered how much work it was when I was growing up: milking morning and night, every day; and haying, feeding, dealing with a water source that would need to be kept from freezing; and the need for more than one bovine not the cow"s calf, to keep the cow happy; and constantly needing to deal with fences and the need for a cow barn. And the fact that I couldn"t legally sell any excess milk products to partly pay for the cow"s keep. I decided that having a milk cow again was something I would not do again. It was cheaper and a whole lot easier to just buy milk for my kids in the supermarket.

Over the years, I became unable to digest milk, and it REALLY upset my stomach if I tried. I suppose I am lactose intolerant. The kids have all grown up and my wife drinks no milk either. Occasionally we buy milk if grandkids are going to be staying with us.

In my opinion, it just is not worth it to milk a cow these days. A cow ties you down way too much to THEIR routine. Unless you really enjoy milking and consider that fun, I don"t think milking a single cow would ever be worth the costs and hassle. [b:c52ff1d73c]Store milk [/b:c52ff1d73c]is just too easy and relatively inexpensive. But that is just my OPINION! Good luck.
hat ain't milk no more, You may as wel drink water

I grew up in Europe,We milked 24 cows .My dad used to buy fresh milkcows with an issue on the stockyards just because they were cheap and milk and fatten them up at the same time,by the time they went down in milk production they were fat and sold to a butcher.
More often than not these cows he brought home were 3 teaters and or a teat that was stepped on ,or cows and heifers with very large or really small teats and lots of edema in the udder(one could only milk the latter between thumb and first finger) Some of them could kick like a mule,some kicked so high they knocked a hole in the barn ceiling.
It took at times 3 of us to milk one of these rascals,but with hobbles on, a bullring with a rope in the nose stretched across the feed isle and a pitchfork against the side to prevent the critter from dropping itself on the milker we usually could get them more or less to coperate till they after a few sessions admitted defeat and behave.It sure made wildcow milking on a rodeo here a rather tame affair.
I don't think after all the experience i gathered over the years there isn't a cow born i can't milk.
But I'm glad those years are behind me :wink:
 
I've had a couple of those cows Bison. So I'll tell the other side of the story. I currently have 2 Jerseys I bought for milk for our bummer lambs in our sheep operation here. The $600.00 I gave for the two of them is only 10 bags of milk replacer, which is about 10 lambs worth of replacer. IOW, it's going to take about 1 bag of replacer to get a lamb to grass eating weight. I bought these cows from a kid that wasn't caring for them, brought them home and kept them out of sight lest some do gooder call the gendarme on me and accuse me of starving some livestock! Fogged the 2nd cut to them and they started gaining right away. One I called "Hope", as in, "I hope she doesn't die!" She was in rough shape, but I got a 1/2 Holstein heifer out of her on July 4th. She's still in milk, giving about 20lbs a day on one milking which is all I need for the lambs. She's never even offered to kick or fight at all. She's an absolute doll to deal with, a joy to be around in every way I can think of and I have a lot higher opinion of this sweet lady than I do of most dogs and all cats I've ever met. If everyone could have a cow like her the dog would no longer be owner of the title of mans best friend!

My ode to Hope is now over. :D
 
No sir. I was as amazed to see it the first time as you may have
been to read of it. The first morning I put it in the frige in a
clear jar, not the usual alum. milk cans, I was totally amazed at
what I saw, but I assure you sir, half the jug was cream and the
other whey (skim milk). I know it sounds absurd and it should
be, but it wasn't.

My guess was the cross breeding. Since beef cattle have less
milk than dairy and support calves of the same size (breed
dependent of course) I just assumed beef cattle had to have
richer milk....never milked a beef cow and looked, but just
assumed.

So, I assumed that was the reason for the abnormally high butter
fat. So, having 2" teats wasn't that bad after all.

And Jim, this is no exaggeration, scout's honor. Grin.

Mark
 
(quoted from post at 06:29:16 03/11/13) No sir. I was as amazed to see it the first time as you may have
been to read of it. The first morning I put it in the frige in a
clear jar, not the usual alum. milk cans, I was totally amazed at
what I saw, but I assure you sir,[b:e0deb43619] half the jug was cream and the
other[/b:e0deb43619] whey ([b:e0deb43619]skim milk[/b:e0deb43619]). I know it sounds absurd and it should
be, but it wasn't.

My guess was the cross breeding. Since beef cattle have less
milk than dairy and support calves of the same size (breed
dependent of course) I just assumed beef cattle had to have
richer milk....never milked a beef cow and looked, but just
assumed

So, I assumed that was the reason for the abnormally high butter
fat. So, having 2" teats wasn't that bad after all.

And Jim, [b:e0deb43619]this is no exaggeration[/b:e0deb43619], scout's honor. Grin.

Mark
aybe your cream seperator wasn't quite up to par :wink:
We put our milk in 1 gallon glass jars as well,..2 to 2 1/2" cream was the normal.
Cream ain't all butter fat either,about half is leftover as buttermilk after the butter is churned.
Whey is what you get as leftover when you make cheese.

just a little bit maybe :roll: I never heard of a cow that had more than 6% milk fat,..not even a beefcow.
 
40+ years later, I STILL have a grip of steel! When I was working, no one could outgrip me on a machine that measured grip force, except for another former farm boy who was half-again as big as I was.

Growing up on a farm and working hard all the time was probably very good for me.
 
Well, when I got up of a morning, I's looks inna the frige and this
glass jar was a different color about half way down on the top from
the bottom. Heck I dunno, it could have been gout.

Just telling what I saw and stirring it up and drinking it or putting it
on your cereal was heaven on earth.

Maybe I should have taken a pictue of it for all the non-believers
on here.
 
(quoted from post at 16:17:54 03/11/13) Maybe I should have just not posted it so any jealous lots wouldn't have something to be jealous about.
hy would one be jealous?
You come with a story that sounds tall and can't be proved to be true.
Milk with 50% cream straight from the cow :roll:
People been breeding with millions of cows all over the world for a 100 years trying to improve proteine and fat level in the milk and never managed to get even 10% :wink:
 
As I said, I don't care if you believe it or not. I was totally amazed
myself but since I had never milked a beef animal and since this
was the first couple of years I was out of urbania giving rural life a
try, I didn't know that it wasn't normal. I'll tell you this: Something
made this 50-50 color change and the milk was the sweetest dairy
product I ever put in my mouth or on my cereal.
 
As I said, I don't care if you believe it or not. I was totally amazed
myself but since I had never milked a beef animal and since this
was the first couple of years I was out of urbania giving rural life a
try, I didn't know that it wasn't normal. I'll tell you this: Something
made this 50-50 color change and the milk was the sweetest dairy
product I ever put in my mouth or on my cereal.
 
This is how I did it back in February of 84. Those cats knew the routine pretty well and the gray one would stand up to catch the stream of milk. I made the front page of The Western Producer with this one.
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