Feeling sorry for the people in my little rental nearby, say they don't have the money to put LP in the tank. Reno'd the bathroom the other week, noticed the thermo on 72. Ok. The guy says no we keep it on 68, I say uh no you don't. Went out and bought a programmable one and installed it. Then on second trip to work on bathroom there's a new 60" flatscreen on the wall (with dish network of course). Guess some people have different priorities. The wife keeps the place immaculately clean though. Sorry, just letting some steam off.
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MarkB_MI
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They will quickly figure out how to override the programmable thermostat.
No end of hard-luck stories from renters. For some reason they think the landlord should be last in line to get paid. You just have to keep repeating to yourself: "it's a business, it's a business, it's a business..."
No end of hard-luck stories from renters. For some reason they think the landlord should be last in line to get paid. You just have to keep repeating to yourself: "it's a business, it's a business, it's a business..."
danmcdonald
Member
I like my house cooler we keep the thermostat at 60 in IL.winters. Why is it any of your business what they keep the house on as long as it is above freezing. Is it in the lease what temp the house has to be at? If you insist on what they should keep it at you should help pay for LP. I do have some rental property also never told them what temp to keep it at.
flambeauone
Member
Thats like wading through trash bags, cigarette cartons and empty beer cases on the front porch only to get a sob story that they dont have the money for rent.
That's not right you're not getting paid, but if there is a silver lining to be had, at least the place is well kept up. What little experience I've had with rental property, it may have been more beneficial to toss a lit match towards it when they finally left than it was to try and fix and clean everything. It amazes me what living conditions some people choose to live in. 
BAnNC
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- Western North Carolina
Don't feel sorry for them cause they don't have anything. Feel sorry for them cause of the choices they make. If they have the money to buy 60" flat screen and other unnecessary stuff, then they had the $$ to pay for gas. Sorry, can't cure stupid. Priorities.
I don't care if they want it 50 degrees, he just says they don't have money to fill the tank and says they keep the thermo low to save fuel, but when I was there twice it wasn't. I did hear some rumblings from his wife that maybe they should have bought fuel instead of the 60" flatscreen. And when the tank empties out right before a couple nights in the teens, then it is my business.
danmcdonald
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OK Oliverguy I get your point now just didn't understand your point in the first post. And yes I would be concerned too.
Anonymous-0
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I have houses that I rent out and if a tenant keeps the place up and clean the rent is not a big deal to me. Somehow the people in this area need six dogs, nine cats, three trucks(2forparts), and four lawnmowers. I have one guy next door that works all the time and as someone said they just make bad decisions.
pete black
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as the old saying goes "poor people have poor ways". expect some criticism for this statement but a lot of people receiving public assistance for utilities use the front door for a thermostat, when the house gets too warm, open the front door, when its cools, close the front door. these folks literally expect some else to pay the bill.
Traditional Farmer
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- Virginia
Wife and I have 2 rental houses on two different places we own,I gave up feeling sorry for them a long time ago.When they have a 20K motorcycle and drive a newer truck than I do I can"t see why I"d be sorry for them that they can"t come up with the rent $$$.Some people will just stay in debt buying new vehicles,electronics and that type stuff and never get anywhere financially.
larrystinescorner
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Oliver guy,I have a rental story for you,with an Oliver at the end of it ! We had an old trailer in pa we rented out.Got bounced checks,so I told the couple they need to pay cash. I couldnt get to pa one weekend when there rent was due because I was working sat and sun,Went the next sunday,they said,,,well we had the rent last weekend,but you didnt come,,so we dont have it this weekend,its not our fault! As time went on ,I told them they would have to leave . I gave the old trailer to a menonite farmer,here is the neighbors Oliver towing it away!It looks good on the outside,when the couple moved in they had one child,Idint like the idea,but they were the children of a friend of my parents,so they were highly recomended as good tenants,I clearly stated no pets,a week after they moved in,,,pets , The farmer took it to make a chicken house out of it.At that time scrap prices were low,I would have had to pay to get rid of it.
picassomcp
Member
The best I've heard so far from one of my renters was: "I would of paid you but I had a rough night at the casino last night." This guy got his walking papers next day.
This time of year is when those that lag behind a bit try to get caught up as they are receiving their tax returns. I've got another tenant that is quite far behind who was the first to file his return in mid Jan. Says this year he has been receiving his return in small chunks versus all in one sum. That's why he cant get caught up this year. He's gonna be looking for a new place real quick too.
Its unbelievable to me how dumb some renters think us landlords are. Never ceases to amaze me even with my guard where it is after 10+ years in the business.
This time of year is when those that lag behind a bit try to get caught up as they are receiving their tax returns. I've got another tenant that is quite far behind who was the first to file his return in mid Jan. Says this year he has been receiving his return in small chunks versus all in one sum. That's why he cant get caught up this year. He's gonna be looking for a new place real quick too.
Its unbelievable to me how dumb some renters think us landlords are. Never ceases to amaze me even with my guard where it is after 10+ years in the business.
A former employer, 1971-1974, whom I will always like and respect told me; "If people do not make good financial decisions, then a lot of their others are probably not very good either." This advice has served me well. It doesn't take a lot to get a few snapshots of a person's financial picture. Visit the residence or former home of the prospective tenant. Talk to neighbors, employers, banks and service providers. The down and out always have a good story, they have had a lot of practice making them up. Yes; I learned the hard way and gave up on tenants. The best prospective tenant is one that already has a place to live and is happy with it.
Tony in Bama
Member
I would agree. A few years back, our church collected groceries and delivered them to poor families over Thanksgiving. What I typically found was a run-down house with a late-model car or two in the drive. Inside was a huge TV, fully gagged out with cable and the latest video gaming system. There was no shortage of beer and cigarettes, usually a premium brand. The place usually featured a few kids glued to the TV, being raised by their grandmother with no adult male to be seen. It's a blessing to help someone who is down and trying to get back up, but no so much in cases like this. We tried it a couple of years and then gave up.
Economic poverty is a problem, but it's often a symptom of the true problem, which is moral, spiritual, and intellectual poverty.
Economic poverty is a problem, but it's often a symptom of the true problem, which is moral, spiritual, and intellectual poverty.
Billy Shafer
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You need renter like me.
Pay my rent on time.
Keep the yard mowed.
Do any minor repairs myself.
No broken down vehicles in the yard.
Keep my BEER cans picked up.
Two dogs that will not use the bathroom in the house.
No loud music.
Don't bother anyone. Keep to myself
Pay my rent on time.
Keep the yard mowed.
Do any minor repairs myself.
No broken down vehicles in the yard.
Keep my BEER cans picked up.
Two dogs that will not use the bathroom in the house.
No loud music.
Don't bother anyone. Keep to myself
I rented out a farm house for several years and had trouble getting anyone to pay.They always had other bills and stiffed me.I tore the house down.My dads 3 bedroom brick house has been setting empty for 12 years since he died.I'd sooner se it empty than put up with that stuff.
dr sportster
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Every spring I do volunteer electrical work for Habitat For Humanity. I've heard comments like "hey this guys got a bigger flat screen than me" Once we got to the house and everyone was checking in where they have a canopy on the front lawn the
"Poor guy" pulls in in a Mercedes. I said let this clown pay his own electrician. Everyone just left. So we didn't get our free energy saving lght bulb that day.No big deal.
"Poor guy" pulls in in a Mercedes. I said let this clown pay his own electrician. Everyone just left. So we didn't get our free energy saving lght bulb that day.No big deal.
I'm sure they did NOT have the money for the TV.
Either it's on the credit card, or it's rented for $19.99 a week. Probably on the card.
The problem is the LP guy wants $$$ up front. Won't extend credit because he knows he won't be paid, probably won't take credit cards.
in-too-deep
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Yep. That was me, too. Only thing was, I asked them to get out of the lease so I could move. Found them another good renter and they gave me my deposit anyway. Still feel bad for skipping out on the agreement, though.
Dean Olson
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Oliverguy,
As a landlord I got it right away that if they don't keep the house heated it will freeze up creating a lot of damage. Some of my tenants can't manage money so I do it for them. I pay all the bills and collect accordingly. Some I had to collect weekly. Those I culled out pretty fast.
The only horror story I can tell you in 15 years renting houses is that I've been beat out of a months rent and they left a mess. No damage they just didn't clean up.
I love my rent houses. I love my tenants! Mail box money every month that makes my life really easy in a down economy. I will have a comfortable retirement in a few years. Much better than if I tried to rely on the gubment or stock market.
98% of the people out there are good folks they just want to have a decent lifestyle like anyone else . They pay there bills and take care of things.
2% of the folks are just rats. They are the ones that flat screw everyone they come in contact with. The key is to pick tenants out of the 98% group.
As a landlord I got it right away that if they don't keep the house heated it will freeze up creating a lot of damage. Some of my tenants can't manage money so I do it for them. I pay all the bills and collect accordingly. Some I had to collect weekly. Those I culled out pretty fast.
The only horror story I can tell you in 15 years renting houses is that I've been beat out of a months rent and they left a mess. No damage they just didn't clean up.
I love my rent houses. I love my tenants! Mail box money every month that makes my life really easy in a down economy. I will have a comfortable retirement in a few years. Much better than if I tried to rely on the gubment or stock market.
98% of the people out there are good folks they just want to have a decent lifestyle like anyone else . They pay there bills and take care of things.
2% of the folks are just rats. They are the ones that flat screw everyone they come in contact with. The key is to pick tenants out of the 98% group.
Dean Olson
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Very easy to evict here in TX. Takes less that a month. If the deadbeats are just not getting it the Sheriff shows up with a moving truck/company and moves them out.
Gambles
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Last December, my mom felt sorry for the "needy".....
Between Thanksgiving and Christmas, the local banks have a "needy tree" (my description of it, not theirs) located in the customer lobby. These trees are decorated with ornaments that list what some of the needy kids of the area want for Christmas. I can assure you that the thought is good. Anyway, you take an ornament off of the tree and the idea is to buy some of the gifts that the needy kids need. My mom, 84, participated in it this last year. Her needy ornament had two wish items on it. She called me over to her house because she had no idea what one of these gifts was and needed an explanation. The first item wanted was a heavy coat with the local college logo and mascot on it. It HAD to have the licensed college logo. (I guess the logo makes it a lot warmer) Anyway, online prices for this coat was right around $60. The local WalMart had them for about $70. The next item I had to explain to her. The description was for a Madden 2013 football game for the X-Box 360. My mom, again remember that she's 84, had no idea what the X-Box 360 was. Again, the cheapest price we could find for this game was $60 and if we had bought it locally, it would have been higher. Also, if the kid wanted the game, that means that he already had the game box which is at least $200. Instead of buying either of these items, my mom just put some money back into the envelope and gave it to this needy kid. She probably won't be picking another ornament off of the tree this coming Christmas. I also realized that my kids are more needy than this kid.
Between Thanksgiving and Christmas, the local banks have a "needy tree" (my description of it, not theirs) located in the customer lobby. These trees are decorated with ornaments that list what some of the needy kids of the area want for Christmas. I can assure you that the thought is good. Anyway, you take an ornament off of the tree and the idea is to buy some of the gifts that the needy kids need. My mom, 84, participated in it this last year. Her needy ornament had two wish items on it. She called me over to her house because she had no idea what one of these gifts was and needed an explanation. The first item wanted was a heavy coat with the local college logo and mascot on it. It HAD to have the licensed college logo. (I guess the logo makes it a lot warmer) Anyway, online prices for this coat was right around $60. The local WalMart had them for about $70. The next item I had to explain to her. The description was for a Madden 2013 football game for the X-Box 360. My mom, again remember that she's 84, had no idea what the X-Box 360 was. Again, the cheapest price we could find for this game was $60 and if we had bought it locally, it would have been higher. Also, if the kid wanted the game, that means that he already had the game box which is at least $200. Instead of buying either of these items, my mom just put some money back into the envelope and gave it to this needy kid. She probably won't be picking another ornament off of the tree this coming Christmas. I also realized that my kids are more needy than this kid.
Ultradog MN
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I have 2 rental houses. I think most tennants are pretty good. Sometimes though they get in a bind and the land lord is usually the one to take it in the shorts. Dunno why but it seems that way.
I replumbed both houses. If they let it freeze up everything would be easily accessable.
I also own the 500 gal propane tanks at both properties. When I leased a tank the propane co said I was going to have to cosign for the tennants propane. Ha Ha, yeah sure.
I bought a tank so it's all between the propane co and the tennants.
One tennant has been there going on two years and the other one is going on 3 years.
I replumbed both houses. If they let it freeze up everything would be easily accessable.
I also own the 500 gal propane tanks at both properties. When I leased a tank the propane co said I was going to have to cosign for the tennants propane. Ha Ha, yeah sure.
I bought a tank so it's all between the propane co and the tennants.
One tennant has been there going on two years and the other one is going on 3 years.
Traditional Farmer
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- Virginia
In my state its even better the sheriff comes to evict makes them leave the premises and if they do not get in touch with the landlord in 24Hrs to get their stuff out everything left in the house belongs to the landlord.Had one guy leave 6 rifles in the house that his grandfather had given him the only way we got what he owed was we held the guns until he paid us and then we gave him the guns back.
My parents had rental homes when I was growing up in town. When tenants moved out we all had to troop over and clean them up. Scraping feces off of the floors and washing urine off the walls put me off of ever wanting to own rentals of my own. People can be worse than animals.
flying belgian
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I have several rental houses and I put right in the lease and we go over and over this paragraph when signing.---The rent is due by the first of the month. If I don't have it by the fifth then 5% penalty. If I don't have it by the fifteenth then I throw your stuff out on the street.--- Any part of that you don't understand? Ok then, if you understand then sign here. I know I cannot legally throw their stuff out but they don't know that and I have never had to do it.
Being a landlord has challenges same as any business. I contracted for multi-family companies for a few years and came to the conclusion the people who run them and live there deserve oneanother. After seeing the rental business from both sides and knowing what I was getting into,I bought and sold a few rent houses and made more from them than my 401k and IRA combined. The highest profit by far was buying dumps and renting them to "Guest Workers". I had 3 places in the same neighborhood where I gave an elderly lady,her son and granddaughter free rent in exchange for collecting rent,finding renters as well as kicking them out at her discretion. If she ever skimed funds I can't complain. She rented by the head and collected weekly. Unlike my other rentals,those tenants did 90% of the repairs including material. It was a pleasant suprise to see a new roof or exterior paint I didn't pay for. I somtimes worried the contractor that origionaly bought the material might want reimbursed but they assured me they did it with salvage material which sounded plausiable considering they didn't nessarily match. She asked me to have the water unlocked and turned off once so the rusted line from meter to house could be dug up and replaced.
I kept comonication open with the city police and code enforcment which served well for all involved. Code inforcment was usualy understanding with solutions and police were happy to alow latitude on minor issues in view the residents'means of resolution were usualy perminate and less hassel and expense for the city. One thing is certain because I speak from experince at the multi family places I worked. There are no where near need for police at my places compared to where companies do it "by the book"with government rent subsidies. My renters go to work every day while those getting help with rent deal dope and worse which makes bad situations a dayly occurance.
I kept comonication open with the city police and code enforcment which served well for all involved. Code inforcment was usualy understanding with solutions and police were happy to alow latitude on minor issues in view the residents'means of resolution were usualy perminate and less hassel and expense for the city. One thing is certain because I speak from experince at the multi family places I worked. There are no where near need for police at my places compared to where companies do it "by the book"with government rent subsidies. My renters go to work every day while those getting help with rent deal dope and worse which makes bad situations a dayly occurance.
If the lease says that you have to move if the rent is nit payed by this date I just move their stuff on the lawn. If they can t pay me, how are they going to hire a lawyer? The best is my 83 year old mom has four houses for rent, and is too soft heartened to really go after the rent. My brother will stop by, and if they don t pay him, he just takes the outside doors off(for repair), they have never stayed more than one day with no doors.
Anonymous-0
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On the other side of the coin, is the landlord who complains on the costs of upkeep and lies about everything, and . Driving up in his new pickup, bought the quarter where the house is for a dollar from his father and had the farm he got started on given to him. Telling him there is a propane leak in the basement and argues there isn't one and you try and show him with a soap mixture, or a leaking valve on the propane tank that came over on the mayflower and only local coop will fill because nobody will take the liabilty on such an old tank. Backed up sewer for three days right after the wife came home from the hospital with new born, finally had a plumber come out when I went to town and told his wife. He was running a power washer and painter on the house and garage and the power bill was $1170 for the month when usually $170 and he said he didn't do anything to cause that I was responsible. I paid and then didn't pay rent for the next two months to get my money back(that started an argument), and of course he raised the rent $150. Or wouldn't do anything about the bats that were in the attic for 5 years until his son was putting his boat in the shed for storage and mentioned that the bats and sewer were a problem when he lived here(twenty years prior to me), but landlord praised he never had any problems. Or the new wiring in the house, new when it was installed in the 60's. My rant, chris
I have several rental houses and duplexes. I used to have issue until I raised the deposits required to move in. Plus they have to pass a credit check. Require two months rent plus a security deposit. So it takes over a $1000 to move in. That weeds out most of the bad ones and then the credit check does the rest.
There is still one color you can discriminate on. GREEN!!!! If they do not have the green then I do not have to rent to them.
There is still one color you can discriminate on. GREEN!!!! If they do not have the green then I do not have to rent to them.
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