Wisconsin V4ED Engine

Bobcaterdon · Feb 22, 2013

I am reparing a VE4D and I have a twin cylinder Block with 3 inch dia. pistons for cylinder 1 & 3 and a twin cylinder block for cylinder 2 & 4 the firing order is 1,3,4,2
Whould doing this arrangement cause me any problem??? this engine will be use in a MF711 Skid Steer.
Thanks Don

NCWayne · Feb 22, 2013

I don't understand your question. A VE4D is a V configuration engine with one common crankcase and two cylinder blocks. The cylinders in each bank have a bore of 3.000 to 2.999 (according to Wisconsin's site) which can be rebored to standard oversizes to compensate for wear. That being said, if the cylinder blocks all have have a 3 inch bore then they are the right ones. Now IF the missing part of your post, and what I'm not understanding completely here, was that you have two different housings with different bore sizes, then NO, they won't work. The engine will be running unbalanced, regardless of the firing order, because one set of pistons will be larger, and therefore heavier, than the other set. Too, one side will be working harder than the other side because of the increased surface area on the face of the larger pistons.

I hope this is what you were asking, if not please post again with more details.
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Bobcaterdon · Feb 23, 2013

Hi NCWAYNE
Yes your answer was what I was asking thanks for the reply. Would you know if the VE4D 3 inch cylinder could be bored out to 3 1/4 inch plus .020 thousandth
Thanks Don

greygoat · Feb 23, 2013

All 2 cylinder engines use the same head gasket.
V4"s, VE4 and VF4, use the same head gasket for 3" bore or 3-1/4". bore. (AS DO 2 CYLS).
Upper decks are interchangeable, 2cyls..V4"s.
Heads are interchangable.
A V4 head gasket set has two 2 cyl head gaskets,
(it"s slightly less expensive at my NAPA to get
one V4 head gasket kit, than two 2 cyl kits)
I"d say that you can rebore..after all, its
actually a.125 rebore,(1/8)
Economy of manufacturing should be that Wisconsin
Motor Company only cast one size before machineing

wilson ind · Feb 23, 2013

If you are making your living with this machine do it totally correct. If used imeterrely and your operation would NOT, stop if the machine failed why not? An hour a week use OK . Hour a day or more as in a dairy do it correct.

jm. · Feb 23, 2013

Leave it to old wayne to read between the lines. kinda figured that was what he was asking. I am not sure he can get pistons larger than the 3.25.
We used to buy ever core we could all summer then in the winter build them up but that has been 20 years ago. Don,t see too many of the Wisconsin,s running now.

NCWayne · Feb 23, 2013

Like Greygoat said above, I believe they can, but would be afraid to say that with 100% certainty as I've never heard of it being done. The best way to know for sure would be to call Wisconsin and see. Granted you don't see as many of them around as you used to, but I called the other say to check on some prices and found out they are still in business and building engines. The only difference now is that the selection is limited to the larger engines and they only build them to order so they keep nothing built in stock.

That said, keep your eyes open and you should be able to find the right part off of Ebay, Craigslist, etc. I've got a couple of V series engines I'm planning to rebuild one of these days. I know two of them are locked up so I've been looking for major parts like that for awhile now because I know at least one of the two has the cylinder block screwed up.

NCWayne · Feb 23, 2013

When your in the repair business like I am you see and hear so many ideas get thrown out by folks trying to get their machine running ASAP, but still as cheaply as possible, that after awhile nothing suprises you anymore....LOL

jm. · Feb 23, 2013

Wayne when you get to it let me know what you need. Still have a pile of cores that we never go to work.. Kubota thing finally got so big we just quit building engines. I think there should be several cores at the farm.

teddy52food · Feb 23, 2013

I tried it once and the bolt hole that holds the valve cover on showed up.

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