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JayinNY 02-14-2013 16:11:01 198.228.200.23 Report to Moderator	Well it's that time of year again, my 99 Dakota needs a inspection sticker. I know I need 3 new tires, my neighbor does auto work on the side and works for a friend that has a garage. They passed the truck for a few years, so I thought I'll get the tires from them, and get it inspected. The check engine light has been on and off for the last 8-9 I don't know how many months. My friend scanned it today and it showed no codes, so there gonna see if it will pass NYS tomarrow, if u have a check engine light on here in NY it won't pass inspection. Anyway I told my friend, the abs light and break light also come on sometimes, we already know the abs box is shot, but I'm not putting $450 into that crap, and a rear breakline rusted threw last winter, I fixed it, but bleeder broke off, so I bled it at the line fitting, maybe still air in it, that's why light comes on. So I told my friend about those lights, he said it don't matter, but check engine will fail the NYS inspection. So my thought, I guess emissions are more important than safety, lol, don't get me wrong the breaks work, but it's still funny, !!! [Reply]   [No Email]
Pitch 02-15-2013 05:43:48 66.66.18.32 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to JayinNY, 02-14-2013 16:11:01   In NY the guy inspecting your car cannot do a thing about the service engine light. He does the mechanical inspection,lights,brakes,etc,but the emissions system link is transmitted directly to the state from your OBD. If the computer throws a code Albany knows it and no sticker is issued. [Reply]  [No Email]
JRSutton 02-15-2013 08:31:58 75.130.109.233 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to Pitch, 02-15-2013 05:43:48   in MA - anything over X number of years old doesn't have to pass emmissions testing. ... I can't remember what X is, but I know my 88 truck is old enough. though if I have a light on - I'd fail. They could hook it to a computer - I'm not sure - but was always told it's the light that matters on the old vehicles. [Reply]  [No Email]
Mike M 02-15-2013 05:09:18 24.140.0.120 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to JayinNY, 02-14-2013 16:11:01   I've said for years with all this mandatory saftey items you have to have I think the most important item would be stainless steel brake lines !!! Since they start putting calcium cloride on the roads again things are really rusting up extra fast. This stuff should be banned ! [Reply]  [No Email]
JRSutton 02-15-2013 03:38:38 75.130.109.233 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to JayinNY, 02-14-2013 16:11:01   My truck can't pass because my parking brake foot pedal is a little loose - and the parking brake light comes on because it sags juuuust enough to trip the switch. I showed the guy that you can just touch the pedal from behind and the light goes off. (the parking brake works just fine mind you) But - this is state government and they are all knowing and all powerful. If that light is on, you fail. The REASON the light is on doesn't matter. I know it's a simple fix - but for the love of god. Couldn't we introduce a little common sense to the process???? And Jay - if you continue having trouble with the light, you can do what most of my friends do with thier older vehicles - snip the wire and be done with it. [Reply]  [No Email]
W_B 02-15-2013 05:24:14 155.188.247.24 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to JRSutton, 02-15-2013 03:38:38   We are talking government here... Government 'not equal' common sense. End of story. Case in point (sort of)... The dear old folks that built my current house back in the late forties, and kept the 100 acres that surround my little piece, had passed away and left the land to their daughter who still lives nearby. She had it all surveyed and put up a fence between my property and hers and down the far west side. I'm out in the barn yard and this pickup drives up the driveway and stops with a grumpy old guy inside. He says I'm from the county engineer's office. Your fence is too close to the road. It has to be 40 feet from the center line and that first post is 39 feet. Really?, I say. I let him ramble on a bit about setbacks and right-of-ways and public safety and such then tell him: well, that's all nice but it's not my fence. The look he gave was priceless. He says: who does own it? Where do they live? I just tell him I don't know who owns it now and don't know them or where they live. He drives off in a huff worrying about the fence post that's one foot too close. Not enough to do I suppose. Forgot to mention that the fence is perpendicular to the road so it's just one post he claimed was out of place. Back on topic, our area of the state (Central Ohio) doesn't require annual inspection. I guess the air pollution isn't bad enough to require it yet. This post was edited by W_B at 05:26:06 02/15/13. [Reply]  [No Email]
JRSutton 02-15-2013 08:26:47 75.130.109.233 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to W_B, 02-15-2013 05:24:14   funny. Oh - and by the way - the inspection isn't really about air pollution - not at all! It's about collecting a fee. [Reply]  [No Email]
BAnNC 02-15-2013 04:44:07 99.116.123.92 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to JRSutton, 02-15-2013 03:38:38   How dare you, JRS. You used the words Common Sense and Government in the same sentence. SSsshhheeesshh! [Reply]  [No Email]
Dave Sherburne NY 02-14-2013 19:52:01 50.48.48.197 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to JayinNY, 02-14-2013 16:11:01   I don't think you have to have a working ABS system in NY. At least that's what the inspector next door told me and he is not a lickem and stickem fellow. I never fixed it on that car cause I don't like ABS braking. And the brake light is caused by a switch in the master cylinder. If the rear brake line rusted thru, that caused the brake light to come on. Just my opinions [Reply]  [No Email]
JayinNY 02-14-2013 20:47:06 198.228.200.25 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to Dave Sherburne NY, 02-14-2013 19:52:01   What I'm saying is, a brake light on would be of more concern to me than a check engine light. ?? [Reply]  [No Email]
Garyin KS 02-14-2013 17:27:24 66.232.202.32 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to JayinNY, 02-14-2013 16:11:01   Move to Kansas and avoid the inspection. [Reply]  [No Email]
John B. 02-14-2013 17:22:52 38.114.64.177 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to JayinNY, 02-14-2013 16:11:01   All those lights should cycle on for a few seconds when the key is first turned on so they will know if the light is bad or not. [Reply]  [No Email]
JD2ACWD 02-14-2013 17:02:35 68.65.34.93 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to JayinNY, 02-14-2013 16:11:01   jay , some vehichles you can disconnect the battery for 24 hours and the light will not come back on,give it a try [Reply]  [No Email]
JayinNY 02-14-2013 17:07:23 198.228.200.16 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to JD2ACWD, 02-14-2013 17:02:35   Thanks for the tip, I don't wanna do that now, because they will check it tomarrow, my friend wouldent erase it, as then id have to put 50 miles on it before they hook it up to the state system for the inspection, [Reply]  [No Email]
JerryS 02-14-2013 16:56:00 98.80.109.6 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to JayinNY, 02-14-2013 16:11:01   Think I'd figure out a way to snuff those lights. The ABS light and the MRF (Mechanics' Retirement Fund) light have both been out on my 95 Ranger for many years, but here in La. they have no bearing on the annual inspection. [Reply]  [No Email]
jammison 02-14-2013 16:51:56 72.181.173.171 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to JayinNY, 02-14-2013 16:11:01   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeYou are jumping to the conclusion that what man does can really impact the earth.....big leap. [Reply]  [No Email]
NCWayne 02-14-2013 16:23:04 69.40.232.132 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to JayinNY, 02-14-2013 16:11:01   Yep, when it all comes down to the wire the "emissions" inspections in most states are about nothing more than making money.......Like the discussions on here about heavy trucks as long as the vehicle is safe then it should pass the inspection. [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob Bancroft 02-14-2013 16:50:11 97.73.64.153 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to NCWayne, 02-14-2013 16:23:04   And did you know that here in NY for the right amount of money tractor-trailers can safely gross 100,000# or more! [Reply]  [No Email]
Rickieblue 02-14-2013 16:47:51 65.37.28.93 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to NCWayne, 02-14-2013 16:23:04   Safe is one thing....clean emissions is another..think about your kids or your grandkids..I think we should all worry about how we leave this earth for future generations..just think if no one cared? [Reply]  [No Email]
Retired Farmer 02-14-2013 17:40:20 207.200.116.74 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to Rickieblue, 02-14-2013 16:47:51   Those emissions checks have nothing to do with contolling air pollution. When I first came to northern Colorado eleven years ago, there was a small amount of smog hanging over Fort Collins. I read somewhere that the town was wanting to be just like Denver. Well, it took eleven years but they finally got their wish last fall. The smog was so thick you couldn't see the mountains on the west side of town, it went south to Denver and at least as far north as the Wyoming border. Don't think those new pollution free cars are all they are cracked up to be. [Reply]  [No Email]
NCWayne 02-14-2013 17:26:31 69.40.232.132 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to Rickieblue, 02-14-2013 16:47:51   If anyone really cared they would have taken the emissions far beyond the individual vehicles. By that I mean, and I forget the exact percentage, but far from half of the emissions emmitted by vehicles is when they are sitting in traffic at an idle. Now, if true emission reduction was the issue, why not take care of it all at once instead if phasing things in year after year, after year based on engine size, etc, etc. Why not make a system similar to what is already in use for storm and waste water? In other words at intersections where most emissions occur, on interstates where traffic jams occur, why not install vacuum/suction grates that draw in the emissions from ALL vehicles and carries it to a centralized point for cleaning? Granted a project like that would probably cost billions, and take years to impliment, but in the end ALL vehicles would be taken care of. As it stands how many billions have already been spent, how many billions are continuing to be spent trying to keep individual vehicles in compliance, and how many more billions are being spent by mfgs (and the consumer to help cover those costs) in R$D work to keep up with the latest EPA demands? Another benefit to this design would be that as technology advanced the central 'processing plants' could be retrofitted to clean ALL of the air better, and cheaper, than trying to upgrade technology on millions of old vehicles. Too there would be billions more saved by the mfgs not having to constantly change their design every year to meet the latest EPA regs. Instead that money could be spent actually making the vehicles safer vs trying to make them lighter in weight, etc, etc so they can use smaller engines to help meet the EPA's demands. For those that read this and say it can't be done, think about it this way. What's more important, carrying storm water for miles and miles inside of a pipe, something civilized man has been doing for years, to insure it dumps where we want it to, or keeping our air clean? It's one of those things that CAN be done, but will probably never get done because it actually makes sense to do it...... In the end everyone would benefit financially from doing it this way, and we'd all be breathing cleaner air too. [Reply]  [No Email]
JayinNY 02-14-2013 17:04:03 198.228.200.16 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to Rickieblue, 02-14-2013 16:47:51   The county don't seem to care, they plow the roads 3 times for a dusting of snow, and pound the salt down,, all a complete waste, time, fuel, salt ect! so I could care less if my truck has a emissions problem! [Reply]  [No Email]
JayinNY 02-14-2013 16:34:19 198.228.200.37 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to NCWayne, 02-14-2013 16:23:04   Do you have state inspections in NC, or is it SC that dosent have them? [Reply]  [No Email]
BAnNC 02-15-2013 04:48:02 99.116.123.92 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to JayinNY, 02-14-2013 16:34:19   NC inspections are more for safety if the vehicle is older than 1996. After that, they connect it to the computer and look at emissions. But, if your car doesn't pass, ie, check engine light on, you can spend $200-250 trying to get it fixed and then apply for a waiver. They will pass it. Next year, you start over trying to pass, going through the fix, getting the waiver. BTDT w/ 1999 Chev. Its still on the road, just not in a county that does emissions testing. [Reply]  [No Email]
Matt H NY 02-14-2013 17:04:38 67.251.109.127 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to JayinNY, 02-14-2013 16:34:19   Just put a piece of black tape on the dash to cover the lights. has worked for me in the past. [Reply]  [No Email]
JayinNY 02-14-2013 18:00:17 198.228.200.28 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to Matt H NY, 02-14-2013 17:04:38   Hahahahahahahahaha,,,,,that's the exact same thing my friend told me years ago! And a pack of smokes on the dash by the over due inspection sticker! What ever that means. Lol [Reply]  [No Email]
Dr. Walt 02-14-2013 23:02:08 12.2.223.79 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to JayinNY, 02-14-2013 18:00:17   SIMPLE - just reach up under the dash & disconnect the bulb, it CAN'T turn on if it isn't connected. [Reply]  [No Email]
farmerjohn 02-14-2013 17:47:01 71.182.239.169 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to Matt H NY, 02-14-2013 17:04:38   I've done that too, [Reply]  [No Email]
NCWayne 02-14-2013 17:00:50 69.40.232.132 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to JayinNY, 02-14-2013 16:34:19   NC has emissions for anything that has OBD2 or later, but for anything prior it's nothing but safety. Then, once you get past I believe it's 30 years old now (it's changed a few times in the past few years), there is no inspection required once the vehicle has an initial inspection to get it in the system. [Reply]  [No Email]
hintocw 02-16-2013 13:34:42 184.4.98.77 Report to Moderator	Re: Ot, kinda funny in reply to NCWayne, 02-14-2013 17:00:50   Right, NCWayne, if a vehicle is 30 years old or older its not required to be inspected. For all of you who don't live or have never lived in NC, no insp sticker is issued. The veh. must pass insp. in order to be licensed. [Reply]  [No Email]