Assistant DA murdered by assassins

da.bees

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Assassins murdered an assistant DA walking to the Kaufman County Tx court house. IMO this has Mexican drug cartel wrote all over it. Law inforcement involved in investigating believe it to be professional hit men. I don't want to start a firestorm causing this to be poofed but I simply can't understand why U.S. atthorities stop persueing criminals at the border. I find it equaly puzzling why Home Land Securty assures citizens they are safe from foreign terrorism while all the while tons of dope is flowing in. Good grief,a single trailer loaded with weapons instead of weed is enough to cause mass destruction and mayhem. This has become like a rat infested barn. As long as drastic control is delayed,the problem only grows. Or does it? Am I not looking at this corretly?
 
Just trying to figure out how to leap from

"murdered an assistant DA walking to the Kaufman County Tx court house"

to

"puzzling why Home Land Securty assures citizens they are safe from foreign terrorism"

Connection? Huh?
 
I simply can't understand why U.S. atthorities stop persueing criminals at the border.


Would it bother you if the Mexican authorities came across the border in pursuit of someone??? I know I wouldn't like it.
 
I thought the same thing, however law enforcement theory now is that it may be related to the Aryan Brotherhood gangs. He along with several other DA's had just filed several cases against AB and organized crime.

Prayers to his family and co-workers
 
(quoted from post at 15:04:16 02/01/13) Assassins murdered an assistant DA walking to the Kaufman County Tx court house. IMO this has Mexican drug cartel wrote all over it. Law inforcement involved in investigating believe it to be professional hit men. I don't want to start a firestorm causing this to be poofed but I simply can't understand why U.S. atthorities stop persueing criminals at the border. I find it equaly puzzling why Home Land Securty assures citizens they are safe from foreign terrorism while all the while tons of dope is flowing in. Good grief,a single trailer loaded with weapons instead of weed is enough to cause mass destruction and mayhem. This has become like a rat infested barn. As long as drastic control is delayed,the problem only grows. Or does it? Am I not looking at this corretly?


Gotta agree thats a big leap from a hit to terrorism.

Why couldn't it have been pro American hit "people"? May have been hired by the cartels but don't mean they crossed the border to get here. And they stop at the border because armed US authorities crossing the border could be counted as an act of war. We could count their "armed" authorities crossing to our side of the border as an armed incursion.

Why import weapons across the border when a group of terrorist can just buy/steal them and the ammo here? Truck crossing the border may get caught and blow their plan. Remember that the bigger the plan the more things that can go wrong with it. Think about it. The 911 terrorists plans included taking out the White House and another target. One hit the Pentagon and another crashed into a field. So 1/4 of the plan was a total failure and another 1/4 was only somewhat successful.

I think you are reading too much into this.

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 19:42:33 02/01/13) Just trying to figure out how to leap from

"murdered an assistant DA walking to the Kaufman County Tx court house"

to

"puzzling why Home Land Securty assures citizens they are safe from foreign terrorism"

Connection? Huh?
As stated in the secound sentence of my post "IMO"=in my opinion,yes I do believe there is definatly commonnality with the obivous hit men and the vehicle loads of dope crossing the border. Time will tell if that is true but there have been similar passed events carried out by Mexican Cartel surrogates.
 
We had a candidate for Sheriff killed by a sniper.

Killer turned out to be a guy somehow related/or involved with the opposing candidate. Probably not playing with a full deck.

Today every personal slight or disagreement can be labeled something more complex and sinister than just plain old... mad, stupid and.... out of control. Lets not turn everything into a foreign political conspirosy. 99% of the violence is You versus Me. or vice versa.
 
(quoted from post at 20:40:57 02/01/13)
(quoted from post at 15:04:16 02/01/13) Assassins murdered an assistant DA walking to the Kaufman County Tx court house. IMO this has Mexican drug cartel wrote all over it. Law inforcement involved in investigating believe it to be professional hit men. I don't want to start a firestorm causing this to be poofed but I simply can't understand why U.S. atthorities stop persueing criminals at the border. I find it equaly puzzling why Home Land Securty assures citizens they are safe from foreign terrorism while all the while tons of dope is flowing in. Good grief,a single trailer loaded with weapons instead of weed is enough to cause mass destruction and mayhem. This has become like a rat infested barn. As long as drastic control is delayed,the problem only grows. Or does it? Am I not looking at this corretly?


Gotta agree thats a big leap from a hit to terrorism.

Why couldn't it have been pro American hit "people"? May have been hired by the cartels but don't mean they crossed the border to get here. And they stop at the border because armed US authorities crossing the border could be counted as an act of war. We could count their "armed" authorities crossing to our side of the border as an armed incursion.

Why import weapons across the border when a group of terrorist can just buy/steal them and the ammo here? Truck crossing the border may get caught and blow their plan. Remember that the bigger the plan the more things that can go wrong with it. Think about it. The 911 terrorists plans included taking out the White House and another target. One hit the Pentagon and another crashed into a field. So 1/4 of the plan was a total failure and another 1/4 was only somewhat successful.

I think you are reading too much into this.

Rick
I don't believe the murder was an act of terror and it's only my opinion that the funding for the killers origionated outside U.S. borders,more specificaly South or Central America. Terrorism was only mentioned with regard to how many people and quanity of shippments that cross the borders that could easily be substituted with personal with biological,nuclear or other mass destruction weapons.
As to why I feel US attorities are justified in crossing the border. Mexican police cross into the US and exchange fire with US law inforcment then high tail back to Mexico along with the drugs and personal they were guarding quite frequently. At that point why worry about offending them? I certainly support aggreements with other countries about not invading one another's territory. Mexico has clearly demonstrated they have no intention killing the golden goose(drugs) nor honoring the aggreements. When Mexican federal attorities shoot at our guys they are initating war or what ever you choose to call it.
You could be right on all accounts and that possiability is exactly why I wanted opinion from others.
I thank you for your view and would like you to expand on part of it. Do you believe it is easier to buy or steal weaponized desease virus and weaponized nuclear in the US than getting them elsewhere? I have always felt those weapons are very secure in the US but for sale abroad.
 
Real Law sees no borders.

If it was the wild west and you had a Marshal on your tail, it don't matter if you crossed the border or not. That's real.

Just like now, we have borders, there is no difference. The problem is a prosecuter was killed, not a criminal. This side of the border is too soft.
 
The notoriety and news value is sometimes questionable. My son was telling me about the Washington DC law forbidding and making it illegal to purchase and wear a ski mask. Next thing you know it will be against the law to prevent law abiding citizens to wear a hooded coat or sweater and sun glasses. Laws like that implemented will lower the crime rate,he he he.lol. The 5 killed in Chicago, was outrageous,because it was done in a dope dealing neighborhood,by gansta affiliates. All i can say is stay alert and keep armed. A better law would be all people must be noog-ged at all times, to see if all men and women are created equal,lol, also removes all doubt,,,well--- (most of the time). LOL. Just be vigilant, I am.
LOU
 
If it turns out it was a local vendetta, retribution, or grudge for proscution, will you be back on YT Mag...to retract the Mexican Drug cartel theory?

Generally in America, people are not publically accused without substancial proof. I am not standing up for the Mexican Drug Cartels.....I am standing up for you.
 
What's worse is that most of Homeland Security's people are 100 miles from the dang border!

I say we got external_link, time to bring them home and line them up on the Mexican border.
 
(quoted from post at 20:05:29 02/01/13) I simply can't understand why U.S. atthorities stop persueing criminals at the border.


Would it bother you if the Mexican authorities came across the border in pursuit of someone??? I know I wouldn't like it.
To answer your question,no and it should not bother Mexico if we enter in pursuit of violet criminals. I don't know why you framed your question as it is but in the interest of better understanding of what is being said.
Mexican law inforcement enter the US regularly while guarding a cartel's drugs against rival cartels. They are somtimes confronted by US officials and a gun fight takes place. The police and drug transport retreats to mexico at which point US attorities cease fire and chase but the Mexican police may or may not cease shooting. That is a case where I believe the US police have every right to keep shooting and or persueing. You only questioned what I advocate,what course of action do you think effective in these cases? Opinions are what I am hopeing to get from this,not just oposition to mine.
 
(quoted from post at 22:41:38 02/01/13) If it turns out it was a local vendetta, retribution, or grudge for proscution, will you be back on YT Mag...to retract the Mexican Drug cartel theory?

Generally in America, people are not publically accused without substancial proof. I am not standing up for the Mexican Drug Cartels.....I am standing up for you.
I have no reservations about saying my prediction was incorrect,after the grand jury indictments are in.
Ed,publically accused holds true if a person is named. Speculation is and always has been commonly acceptable in the USA. You might be misinformed about what takes place in Latin, Centeral and South America. To be accused is great compared to being jailed,tortured or killed based on suspicion.
I'm confused about your standing up for me. Please elaborate.
 
I live 20 miles from there. Nobody here locally is talking about a Mexican Cartel. At present they have absolutely no idea who the assassins were. The only guesswork mentioned was the assistant DA was involved in a case against the Aryan Brotherhood.
 
(quoted from post at 03:54:01 02/02/13)
(quoted from post at 20:05:29 02/01/13) I simply can't understand why U.S. atthorities stop persueing criminals at the border.


Would it bother you if the Mexican authorities came across the border in pursuit of someone??? I know I wouldn't like it.
To answer your question,no and it should not bother Mexico if we enter in pursuit of violet criminals. I don't know why you framed your question as it is but in the interest of better understanding of what is being said.
Mexican law inforcement enter the US regularly while guarding a cartel's drugs against rival cartels. They are somtimes confronted by US officials and a gun fight takes place. The police and drug transport retreats to mexico at which point US attorities cease fire and chase but the Mexican police may or may not cease shooting. That is a case where I believe the US police have every right to keep shooting and or persueing. You only questioned what I advocate,what course of action do you think effective in these cases? Opinions are what I am hopeing to get from this,not just oposition to mine.


I know for a fact that US authorities can not cross into Mexico, or Canada for that matter, in pursuit and by the same token, their authorities can not enter US soil. Having said that, do Mexican authorities enter the US while protecting drug dealers? Probably. But not on official business. I'm sure you are right and some of these officers are on cartel payrolls and working for the bad guys. About a year ago there was a shoot out between cops that were protecting drug dealers and the cops sent in to arrest them. (It happened at the Mexico City airport and I was there 3 days later)

You ask what I think would be effective. I agree with you and wish we could chase 'em into the ground, but...no country is going to put up with having their sovereignty violated. It's just the way it is. Wish I had a better answer.
 
a number of school districts have made regulations against students wearing hooded sweatshirts to schools claiming multiple weapons can be hidden under them.
 
(quoted from post at 18:43:07 02/01/13)
(quoted from post at 20:40:57 02/01/13)
(quoted from post at 15:04:16 02/01/13) Assassins murdered an assistant DA walking to the Kaufman County Tx court house. IMO this has Mexican drug cartel wrote all over it. Law inforcement involved in investigating believe it to be professional hit men. I don't want to start a firestorm causing this to be poofed but I simply can't understand why U.S. atthorities stop persueing criminals at the border. I find it equaly puzzling why Home Land Securty assures citizens they are safe from foreign terrorism while all the while tons of dope is flowing in. Good grief,a single trailer loaded with weapons instead of weed is enough to cause mass destruction and mayhem. This has become like a rat infested barn. As long as drastic control is delayed,the problem only grows. Or does it? Am I not looking at this corretly?


Gotta agree thats a big leap from a hit to terrorism.

Why couldn't it have been pro American hit "people"? May have been hired by the cartels but don't mean they crossed the border to get here. And they stop at the border because armed US authorities crossing the border could be counted as an act of war. We could count their "armed" authorities crossing to our side of the border as an armed incursion.

Why import weapons across the border when a group of terrorist can just buy/steal them and the ammo here? Truck crossing the border may get caught and blow their plan. Remember that the bigger the plan the more things that can go wrong with it. Think about it. The 911 terrorists plans included taking out the White House and another target. One hit the Pentagon and another crashed into a field. So 1/4 of the plan was a total failure and another 1/4 was only somewhat successful.

I think you are reading too much into this.

Rick
I don't believe the murder was an act of terror and it's only my opinion that the funding for the killers origionated outside U.S. borders,more specificaly South or Central America. Terrorism was only mentioned with regard to how many people and quanity of shippments that cross the borders that could easily be substituted with personal with biological,nuclear or other mass destruction weapons.
As to why I feel US attorities are justified in crossing the border. Mexican police cross into the US and exchange fire with US law inforcment then high tail back to Mexico along with the drugs and personal they were guarding quite frequently. At that point why worry about offending them? I certainly support aggreements with other countries about not invading one another's territory. Mexico has clearly demonstrated they have no intention killing the golden goose(drugs) nor honoring the aggreements. When Mexican federal attorities shoot at our guys they are initating war or what ever you choose to call it.
You could be right on all accounts and that possiability is exactly why I wanted opinion from others.
I thank you for your view and would like you to expand on part of it. Do you believe it is easier to buy or steal weaponized desease virus and weaponized nuclear in the US than getting them elsewhere? I have always felt those weapons are very secure in the US but for sale abroad.

OK why would you drive a (NOW) truck loaded with BIO, chemical or nukes? That's getting a bit far out there.


1. Chemical weapons are really designed to be area denial weapons. That means you contaminate an area to deny someone the ability to use that area. Think about the terror attack in the Japanese subway system. Look it up. Very few people were killed and some were ill from the affects of Sarine nerve gas. Very poorly planned and executed attack. Nerve agent had to A. get droplets on exposed skin and or B. be inhaled in enough quanity to be effective. Blister agent is nasty but is about the same as far as employment.

2. Small tactical nukes can be carried in the trunk of a car. In fact a small car could carry several. About the same yield as the ones we used on Japan. Why would you transport them in a truck driving across the border that may be captured when you could hide it in a leget load?

3. Bio can be applied to letters. Much easier and safer that way.

So I thought you were talking a truck load of conventional arms.

The Mexican cops guarding the druggies are in violation of Mexican law and are not acting as a representative of their government when they cross our borders to guard drug shipments. At that time they are not acting as anything but a criminal. On the other hand a officer acting legally on the behalf of the government is a representative of the government. They would in fact be invading a country if they went in with fire arms while trying to capture someone.

I was just pointing out that actual shooters may be Americans who may not have fled to Mexico. Never said that the orders and money didn't come from Mexico. If it was in fact a hit that may very well be the situation.

Rick
 
Haven't heard that one, but have heard of schools going back to uniforms to stop the violence for stealing another persons popular shoes and clothing.Learn something new I guess.
 
It would be highly speculative at this point to connect this murder to drug cartels. Do we even know that he ever prosecuted a cartel member?
 
(quoted from post at 00:40:31 02/02/13) Haven't heard that one, but have heard of schools going back to uniforms to stop the violence for stealing another persons popular shoes and clothing.Learn something new I guess.

Excellent idea! Everyone wear blue Dickies work pants and shirts, white socks and sneakers. No more of this garbage of killing each other for sneakers.
 

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