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OT-Are Ash Trees Worth Much To Be Logged

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1206SWMO

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My farm has a 3 acre grove of ash trees that are about 60-80 ft tall...Theres probably 75 of them and some are so big that I can only reach half the way around them..Most are pretty straight with not many limbs..

Have any of you had any experience with having Ash trees logged?
 

I don't know what area you're in, but here in the East we're fighting a real severe infestation of Emerald Ash Borer killing our ash trees.

Right now, here in PA. we're preparing to make firewood out of anything we haven't logged yet.
 
They used to have a decent value, but we have the same infestation of Emerald Ash Borer here in Kentucky. We aren't supposed to cut 'em for firewood unless you burn it on the property you cut wood on. NO transportation.

Loggers here are NOT allowed to haul logs, so value is nonexistent.
 
Bats ! Mlb players there for awile were using maple but they tend to shatter easier. Ive hit with both and prefer ash , the sound is more crisp and the ball seems to jump off the bat better.
 
I'm in central NY, and around here people are clearing out ant ash while it still is good. We haven't gotten the borer yet, but it won't bee too long. I sold off everything that was saw timber last year and got a reasonable price (I don't remember offhand what it was). I was surprised since everyone is selling ash off.
 
I"m in SW Missouri and this afternoon I walked one mile over
to this grove which I hadnt been in for 5 years....The trees all
seemed to be healthy....I saw no signs of borers..
 
I don't know where in Central NY you are, but the Ash bore has been here for about 4 years and most of the ash is dead. Saplings grow to about 6"diamiter and then the bore attacks them. Ash was very previlent around here years back, and grew vigorously. Adirondack Bat Co. (maker of the Louisville sluggers) located in Dolgsville NY, is strugling to find good Ash, Union Fork & Hoe, Frankfort NY, who was dependent on Ash and Hichory for handles has been closed and gone. Good solid Ash is bringing premium prices in my neck of Central NY.
Loren, the Acg.
 
Makes good lumber. We had some cut up real thin, like 5/8inch and used it for the forms to pour our upright silo foundation in 1969. Good for ball bats. Good firewood. Might as well use it before the EAB gets it.

Gene
 
Here in ne Iowa they have not found ash borers yet. They are right up against the mississippi river in wisconsin and will get to Iowa eventually. I dont know about Missouri, but I dont think they have found any west of the mississippi...yet..
 
John i thought that I heard on the news not to long ago that it was found in south east Minn. and north east Iowa.

Bob
 
Had my first and only timber harvest in 2006, about 60% ash. 210 trees were cut. We were just starting to hear of the ash borer here in Ohio and restrictions were in place.

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My advise to you is to get a forester involved to handle your harvest. They inventory the woods, send out bid sheets, and handle the whole harvest from start to finish. Their fee was 10%, money well spent in my opinion.
 
The timber market is very regional in nature. I am cutting ash and sawing it into boards and selling it here regularly, ash is sold commercially in this area (northern/central NY) but all of the timber values took a nose dive in 2007 and have not recovered. Many species are still at 50-60% of what they were then. I have been selling hardwood lumber since late 2007 on craigslist and that market is more stable in price, though demand and timing can be unpredictable. I have no idea of current conditions in MO, though.
Zach
 
White, Green, or Black Ash? White is good for tool handles etc. We have a lot of black and it makes lumber that looks like oak but it never becomes moisture stable. In MN it is used for paper pulp, in small amounts but it's not the best. I think they plan on using it for chemical cellulose pulp at SAPPI Cloquet.
 
Getting the same here. 50m radius, and a hand written manifest if stopped on the highway with a PU truck full. Campers and such have to have to be carrying "certified/ packaged fire wood.
I'm Not suer how log buyers are dealing with these issues, but there seams to be record numbers of log trucks on Us 20 passing my home each day. There is some older NYS softwood managed forests that are now open to harvesting producing power pole stock/ 40-50' stock 16" butts +- . Not sure but some may be going to log cabin mfgs also.
In the southern Adirondack Park it is a shame as to how much quality hardwood timber is just wasted with the lack of forestry management, and the "forever wild programs". Managed forests are good for the enviroment, wildlife, and the economy. A managed forest is far less susceptible to run-a-way forest fires than abandoned woodlands.
Loren, the Acg.
 
White ash from mo. is what the louisville sluggers are made of. I can remember that becuase i was shocked they did not use kentucky wood.
 
Local (NCMO) Amish sawmill cuts mostly Oak, but usually has some nice Ash in the mix. They make NICE lumber with it.
 
Dan,
Looks like some good size Beech mixed in there.
I've often wondered whether it would make good lumber. It burns like Maple but I have no idea whether it has any other properties of the Maple.
 
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