Farm Bill, Pic

JayinNY

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I saw this in the paper, i thought it was funny so i posted it.
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That is good.
It just occurred to me- If the "fiscal cliff", as well as the farm bill, are not fixed, then what happens as a result of the vast majority of the farm bill money(as I understand it) that won't go to free food programs?
Shouldn't we be hearing about mass starvation?
 
Sorry but that shows one to many gears. It shows reverse and if they where smart enough to go back wards far enough they might figure out when and where they went wrong in the first place but that would take things back a very very long ways and even then they would not have a clue what was wrong in the first place.
Sad when you have a senator died after serving in office for 50 years. What the heck is with that no ONE should be in office for more then 8 years before being out for at least another 8 years and being in for 50 well that is just flat out WRONG
 
Our Sennytor is the chair of the Agriculture Committee. I don't want to run the risk of having this one snuffed, but consider.
 
Old,
If there is anything wrong with your comments, it's this. You gave them 8 years in and 8 years out...... How about 4 years in and a lifetime out! If this grand country of ours does not have enough quality citizens to run it using that formula then we should just fold it up and give it to the worthless bottom feeders that are trying to end up with it all that are in there now!
 
Well I am speaking any office as in a mayor of a town of 50 can do 8 then be out 8 but NEVER be in the office he came out of he has to move up or down but NEVER do the same thing. Plus no life long pension for any body EVERY body pays into S.S. and when they retire that is there pension. And while your at it a flat tax income tax. No deduction for any thing or body and all pay say %5 of there earnings so the guy who made 1000 pays 5% of that and the guy who made 10 million pays 5%
 
80% of the farm bill is food stamps. That needs to be a separate bill under someone other than Ag. Get the food stamps out!
 
Well Mr. traditional farmer in the late 80's and early 90's the gov. loan rate of $1.68 kept corn from bottoming out. Not that there is a need for direct payments and FHA has strayed from their original purpose there is still some good that the USDA does. So why don't you give it up?
 
Well, you inadvertently answered your own argument, corn was subsidized by the loan rate which kept the price from bottoming out which in turn kept some percentage of inefficient farmers in business who otherwise would have failed and went bankrupt, low prices would have led to less corn being planted in the coming years until the market absorbed the surplus and it was profitable again. There is an endless stream of historical proof that government meddling in any business, especially agriculture, never works, when winners are created artificially someone else pays, period. Farming is a business, not a romanticized journey down memory lane.
 

That's exactly right. Our system gets a wrench thrown in when its not allowed to work as it should. Every time a business, no matter what kind, gets a govt. hand out or a bail out, the system is compromised. Persons too. Productivity is something not achieved when rewards are given for failure. Finally the system dies because its not allowed to work as designed. What can someone who sucked on us for 50 yrs. claim to have given back. Just a blood sucking weasel.
 
Do you remember the 80's? I do! high interest and asset devaluation took many good operators out of business. No one would have survived if there wouldn't been some kind of bottom in the markets. Do you actively farm or you another of those wanna b's that have all the answers but don't acually farm?
 
I grew up on a farm and have farmed all of my life as well as my Dad, Grandfather, and five Uncles, not a one of us has ever went broke, in lean years we did without or with less. No one in my family has ever borrowed money to make a crop or signed up or accepted any governement payments. My Grandfather started in 1917 so he saw a few real lean years in the late 20's and 30's, but he knew Roosevelt was putting the country on the path to ruination and of course, he has been proven correct. Just because you can't stand on your own two feet doesn't mean the same applies to everyone.
 
You have to look at everything else that was happening in the 80's too. It wasn't just the corn prices. It was a lot of other stuff, some not even really related to farming on the surface that brought us to that era. I remember 22-25% interest rates. It was manipulation in the markets and banking and a lot of other things too that gave us all that crap. Now it's come back on us again. You don't have to be a genius to see an artificial system with no basis in reality can't keep going forever.
 

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