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MarkB_MI 12-28-2012 04:26:06 75.219.182.8 Report to Moderator	Exactly. Mike, although everybody seems to be suffering from temporary illiteracy when it comes to filling out the ag census, I'll bet they recover just fine when it's time to sign up for their favorite subsidy program. And of course our conspiracy theorists have no problem cashing the checks they receive from the UN henchmen at the USDA. Ha! [Reply]   [No Email]
Traditional Farmer 12-28-2012 05:21:57 67.233.72.177 Report to Moderator	Re: US census of Agriculture in reply to MarkB_MI, 12-28-2012 04:26:06   You're right anyone that takes their $$$$ is then owned by the USDA and has the obligation to do their bidding. These folks that take Gov't $$$ and then say its none of the Gov't business what they're doing are full of Horse Poop.I'm a taxpayer and whoever takes my $$$ thru the Gov't just made their business MY business. [Reply]  [No Email]
dboll 12-28-2012 05:46:30 209.23.168.192 Report to Moderator	Re: US census of Agriculture in reply to Traditional Farmer, 12-28-2012 05:21:57   So you are a fine outstanding citizen that doesn't accept any gov. money. Do you drive on public roads? They are subsidized. I think I know who is full of horse crap! [Reply]  [No Email]
Traditional Farmer 12-28-2012 05:55:16 67.233.72.177 Report to Moderator	Re: US census of Agriculture in reply to dboll, 12-28-2012 05:46:30   Everyone that drives a car or truck,buys license tags etc is paying their way on paying for public roads.Unlike those that drive tractors on them I might add.And the differnce is use of public roads is open to everyone all can use them so all get a benefit from them but in the case of Farm Welfare its only available to a few but all the taxpayers pony up the $$$$. [Reply]  [No Email]
dboll 12-28-2012 06:03:18 209.23.168.192 Report to Moderator	Re: US census of Agriculture in reply to Traditional Farmer, 12-28-2012 05:55:16   Well then you better write your congressman and tell them you want some changes, NOW! License tags are a state thing, there federal funds subsidizing our roads, who inspects meat so that it is legal to sell? I am wondering what farming practices make you a "Traditional Farmer"? [Reply]  [No Email]
Traditional Farmer 12-28-2012 06:08:24 67.233.72.177 Report to Moderator	Re: US census of Agriculture in reply to dboll, 12-28-2012 06:03:18   Last I heard there is a Federal and state tax on gas and diesel for on road use which finances the road system and most highways in the US are state maintained anyway. Not excepting Farm Welfare makes me a REAL Farmer not a Ward of the State. [Reply]  [No Email]
dboll-traditional farmer 12-28-2012 06:23:41 209.23.168.192 Report to Moderator	Re: US census of Agriculture in reply to Traditional Farmer, 12-28-2012 06:08:24   next time you get sick from food that wasn't inspected (because you didn't want any gov. money in ag)let us know so we can laugh at you, you still haven't told us about your "traditional farm", I think I have one of those "traditional farms" too, I raise many of the same things my dad did,corn, soybeans, oats (no flax anymore though) I make hay off my waterways and hay fields to feed the cows. I guess after thinking about it except for some newer machinery and some new technology, many things are similar to what they were when I grew up so I guess I am a traditional farmer also! [Reply]  [No Email]
Traditional Farmer 12-28-2012 06:36:15 67.233.72.177 Report to Moderator	Re: US census of Agriculture in reply to dboll-traditional farmer, 12-28-2012 06:23:41   I guess you're one of those hyphenated folks Ward of the State-Farmer [Reply]  [No Email]
MarkB_MI 12-28-2012 05:28:24 75.219.182.8 Report to Moderator	Re: US census of Agriculture in reply to Traditional Farmer, 12-28-2012 05:21:57   You may be a decent farmer, but you're a lousy businessman. [Reply]  [No Email]
Truth be known...... 12-28-2012 06:45:42 69.30.163.231 Report to Moderator	Re: US census of Agriculture in reply to MarkB_MI, 12-28-2012 05:28:24   He isn't even a farmer. [Reply]  [No Email]
Traditional Farmer 12-28-2012 06:56:19 67.233.72.177 Report to Moderator	Re: US census of Agriculture in reply to Truth be known......, 12-28-2012 06:45:42   I guess having beef cattle,raising a variety of crops and owning/leasing/renting about 1000 acres of land doesn't make me a real farmer? Or does not taking Gov't handouts not make me a real farmer.? Actually there are alot of farmers in my area that don't take any Gov't $$$.The ones that do take Gov't money are split between the Millionaires milking the Gov't and folks that can't make it farming and probably should be working for McDonalds. [Reply]  [No Email]
Hemihead 12-28-2012 15:45:43 184.8.184.134 Report to Moderator	Re: US census of Agriculture in reply to Traditional Farmer, 12-28-2012 06:56:19   Wow,1000 acres farmed with a Wheel Horse and an Iseki. [Reply]  [No Email]
MF Poor 12-28-2012 08:36:20 69.30.163.231 Report to Moderator	Re: US census of Agriculture in reply to Traditional Farmer, 12-28-2012 06:56:19   1000 acres! Now that's some funny stuff right there! 1000 acres! That's a lot of carpet farming sonny! [Reply]  [No Email]
MarkB_MI 12-28-2012 06:52:53 75.219.182.8 Report to Moderator	Re: US census of Agriculture in reply to Truth be known......, 12-28-2012 06:45:42   Hey, that's not fair! For all we know, TF raises up a beautiful crop of sensimilla. But he can't figure out how to cash in on government subsidies for his hemp crop. [Reply]  [No Email]
Traditional Farmer 12-28-2012 06:58:40 67.233.72.177 Report to Moderator	Re: US census of Agriculture in reply to MarkB_MI, 12-28-2012 06:52:53   If it were legal I'd raise it and let fellows like you smoke it. [Reply]  [No Email]
MF Poor 12-28-2012 08:39:19 69.30.163.231 Report to Moderator	Re: US census of Agriculture in reply to Traditional Farmer, 12-28-2012 06:58:40   Yeah, letting facts speak for themselves, you seem more like the meth and heroine type. [Reply]  [No Email]