OT - trash in fields rant, etc.

I bale hay and sell to horse people 25 years now. I do my best to pick up trash I see. We actually have no fields along roads, but stuff constantly blows in from the developement neighbors. I get alot of golf balls too. Last week I pulled chunks of a kid"s blow up rubber ball out of a bale. My one neighbor actually mows their lawn about 10" wider into the hay field over the years. Honestly, I just don"t get it. If I plowed their lawn or spread manure on it, they would be screamin and call in the EPA. I assume people think farm fields are open range or something.

But the real kicker is the BTO on each side of me. My alfalfa fields seem to be his combine, planter and sprayer short cut. No kidding.

Holler at them. Doesn't pay to be a nice guy anymore.

Years ago I lived in Minnesota on a cul-de-sac that backed up to a farmer's corn field. A guy that I worked with lived two houses down and he had two boys that were about 8 or 10 years old.

I caught them in the corn field one day, pulling stalks of corn out the ground and then throwing them down. I guess they were making some kind of "secret" fort in the field.

I went to the boys' father and told him what was going on. His response was, "So what? Look at all of that corn. A few stalks won't make any difference." I disagreed with him strongly.

I never saw the boys pulling stalks after that, but the father and I had a somewhat strained relationship for the remainder of the time that I lived there.

Tom in TN

Tell me about it. I had to call a surveyor one time because a neighbor had mowed so far out in the field. Then he tried to claim it.

A BTO beside me cut back the tree line around his field,dropping the trees on a neighbors fence,he refused to fix the fence because he was trying to plant soybean. After a call to the township police the fence was fixed the next day.Neighbor had to stall up 12 ponies for 2 days.

Post your land = no tresspassing Put up property line markers and tell the offenders not to use it, IE cross it with combine lawnmower etc. On the trash: some states have a strong litter law and they can be fined. Here are two examples 1. a turn out kept getting salted with household trash LE put up a camera identifed car and person and went to the guys house with summons off to court, big fine, ordered to clean up, pay restitution. That dumping ceased mighty quick. 2. similar dingbat did about the same but put all his mail in it with name and address LE did not take long to repeat court process of #1

One way to prevent a guy from cutting grass on YOUR field is to put a piece of re-rod in the dirt so that his mower will hit it, painted green too. Oops!...... Schitt happens. I have a jerk-off neighbor that rides his 4-wheeler in the back of my land, I let it go cause he has helped me in the past with other stuff.

My little 641 is slowly dragging dirt and mounding it up between me and my back neighbors. The neighbors who have a juvenile delinquent that hit all his dad's golf balls over at my house. I have a cracked windshield but I can't prove it. I get trash thrown over the fence all the time. Last thing I found was a Dr. Pepper bottle with foil on one end and used to smoke pot with. I walked over to the kid and told him to keep his trash on his side of the fence as I handed it to him. That did good for about 3 months until I found a beer bottle on my side.

By the way, this guy was running for sheriff in our county last election.

Some people believe if they mow a portion of your property for a period of time they can claim it under "adverse pocession" law or similar laws inacted 200 years ago and are still valid. I had a man who lived next door to a rent house that messed with me for over 5 years trying to move the property line about 6 feet onto my lot. I got so tired of him calling with his hare brain notions that when he wanted to build a chain link I said go ahead knowing he would build it on me. When I sold the house I told the buyer that I would move the fence to the line if he wanted. He said he didn't care if there was a fence but certainly wanted to be able to injoy all his property so I told the title company the fence was encroching but I would have it gone before closing. Without consulting the fool,I removed the fence,filled the post holes and sodded. His lawsuit lasted as long as a politician's promise. The justice of the peace told him that when you build on another's property,the property owner owns what ever you built. Besides the obivouse,somthing to be learned from this is buy title insurance anytime you buy realestate just in case your house is not where everyone thinks it is.

Smile! That next door development will eventually increase your land's resale value by a lot.

Around the Twin Cities farmers have been selling out to developers and then buying 4 to 5 times as much equally good ground two counties over in the boondocks.

As to the BTO, put up a fence?

I just picked up 3 tires off one of my back fields next to a road. Now it is my problem to dispose of them.. In New Yoek state you pay a disposal fee when you buy new tires. Would have been very simple and no cost if he had left them at the tire dealer

Join the party, I am sick of it just like you...
I can tell when I new neighbor moves in because "things" start showing up in my fields. Yard waste, rocks,toys, and beer bottles are the main things. I always joke that i have to "train" a new neighbor, but after a bit they get the point.Picked up 28 baseballs one day out of a 4 acre field. I quit cause the toolbox was full and I didnt have anywhere else to go with them.

A neighbour had a field that surrounded a property. Over here when we mow our lawns we have to collect and dump the grass, but the guy in this property just dumped his grass over my neighbours fence into the field drainage channel.(we call it a 'sheugh')..This went on for a couple of years, until the sheugh was full of rotted grass clippings and the field was starting to get wet. No matter how often he told this guy to stop it just kept on happening....so......My neighbour waited until he knew the guy was on holiday and he got in a tracked excavator, lifted everything out of the sheugh and threw it over the fence on to the nicely manicured and striped lawn......No more problems!...LOL
Sam

Farm that I help out in my free time just got a new neighbor that bought a relatives piece of land. There is a driveway that splits up three different parcels. He claimed that his land ran into one of their big fields. The farmer has lived there his whole life and new how it was setup when he was a kid and tried to explain to the new neighbor. The new guy complained and complained that they were stealing his land over the years and got a surveyor out. Surveyor found out the farmer was right and then some. Gained an extra 10 feet on the other side of the driveway. He asked if he could borrow our 4 row planter, because the 12 row wouldn"t fit in that newly acquired land. Gotta love it.

It would be tempting to throw an old Sparta harrow out there where he's making his short cut. Tines up. If I did that, I'd forget and run over it myself, ha. . .

A local farmer had someone stealing gas (when gas tractors were common) and he turned a harrow up in the trail to the tank. That stopped the gas stealing.

This post is a good lesson for all you guys that are always complaining that we have too many rules, too many laws, too much government.....you are living with what "NO RULES" looks like. Make up your mind. Do you only want rules that only keep your neighbors off your land?......or vice versa?

Laws don't bother me much because I am a law abiding citizen and have no intention of breaking them.

The law in some states is fifteen years of
possession of your neighbors property and you can
claim it. Lawyer fees could cost many times the
value of the property to get it. And the rightful
owner could pay the same to keep it. It is a little
harder in Florida to steal land under the Adverse
possession statute. There you have to be paying the
taxes on it before you can steal it. As always the
lawyers are the big winners.

(quoted from post at 19:45:00 12/19/12) This post is a good lesson for all you guys that are always complaining that we have too many rules, too many laws, too much government.....you are living with what "NO RULES" looks like. Make up your mind. Do you only want rules that only keep your neighbors off your land?......or vice versa?

Laws don't bother me much because I am a law abiding citizen and have no intention of breaking them.

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ost that say there is too much government, and too many rules (like me), are referring to rules that force one person welfare on another, and/or force one to carry someone elses load. In this case, the trepassers expect the property owner to carry the burden of ownership (taxes, maintanence), while also carrying the burden of cleaning up after them and dealing with them trespassing.

No. They are either too ignorant to know the law or if they do they understand that the law, they recognize that the enforcement we pay for, is too lazy to come out and explain it to them. We need to quit whorshiping government employees that do not do their job.

Afterall, they need to surf the net each morning....as you pay for it.

Huh?

I posted on this back in the summer after I watched a neighbor let their crap blow in our field, and I got flamed big time by some. Now everyone seems to be singing a different tune and all agree, it's wrong.

In a case where somneone mows into our field, it lasts until I plow it and then I make sure the dead furrow is on the outside of the field. If they dump onto our side, I push it back with the loader. I have also learned to just flat face the trees right on the line and make them look ugly.

If I see golf balls, I pick them up if I can afford the time and put them in my golf bag.

The last 2 years I've been taking the flail chopper and cutting around the outside of the fields to help maintain the fence row- chops up small trees before they become big trees. I'm also putting more effort into cutting back the overgrowth. It also chops up small plants planted by people over the line.

A few years ago we had a new house built, and when the guy did the landscaping he planted a row of pines a good 10 ft. into our hay field, and mowed around them. All the houses slong that side had been mowing out just as far, but I had just cleaned up the fence row and there wasn't any hay growing there, just weeds, so I let it slide. I saw the guy in his yard while cutting (and when I first noticed the trees) so I told him that those trees were in our field, and if he didn't have them moved before I plowed the field the next spring I'd plwo them under. No more warnings, one is enough. He claimed that he thought his yard went that far (all the lots are marked by white fenceposts) because everyone else cut out that far. I explained that they were all in the wrong and I was gonna fix that at a later date.

Came back a few days later while baling and he moved them- and put them within 5 feet of an under ground electric utility box. :roll:

The next year I saw paint and flags done by diggers hotline and the trees were moved again- and most of them were dead...

Been a good neighbor since. And all the neighbors on that side maintain the trees so they don't overhang too bad.

Donovan from Wisconsin

Been down that road, actually go down it every other year or so. My biggest problem neighbor has been a lot better since his kids left home. He promised to be responsible for anything caused by the stuff his kid left in my fields, and I showed him the price of a tractor tire. Haven't seen an arrow out there since. I don't think the kid learned anything, but he doesn't live here anymore. He's probably flattening some one else's tires now.

NorthvalePA, At the Shortcut get 2 or 3 old spike tooth harrows and turn them upside down in the area of the shortcut road.(set the spikes straight up) One trip across it and they will stop, since they will have to replace a set of tires on a Pickup, tractor , or Combine!
Later,
John A.
PS..Just don't forget where you put them if you are driving in the area.
OBTW YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN THEM BEFORE!

Every year mowing next to houses the owners seam to think the open field is their personal dump. I realy have to be careful for rocks, and boards with nails. One time I ran upon a chevy V8 complete motor. I see so many golf balls If I stopped I would never finish. I don't pick up aluminum cas eather. Stan

Only need one rule as far as this subject is concerned "Each person and their stuff stays on their side of the property line"

I've had two attempts at people trying to claim adverse possession and lay claim to parts of my property. In both instances, they tried to claim I had essentially abandon the property by failing to do anything with it. They kept it mowed to lawn condition. I would have bush hogged the property 3 or 4 times a year, but never needed to mow the parts they were claiming.

At any rate, when they brought it up in court that I had done NOTHING with the ground for almost 20 years, it was mentioned that I had PAID TAXES on it for that entire time. Judge felt as I did. That was "doing something with the property" and with legal paperwork to back it up.

I have posted on here before about my one neighbor.

Last spring he let a bunch of his five gallon buckets and other crap blow into my field. Left it for a month. I picked it all up and set it at the edge of the field. Nothing. Then its back on my field. We were going through getting ready to plant. Put on the big brush hog and mulched all his buckets and let the hog shoot most of it back on his mowed lawn.
Now I have a 55 gallon plastic drum out there. Not sure the hog can eat that.

I have at least 20 other stories of this guy being a complete slob. This is the same house that the kids walk to the other neighbors, dont knock, walk in the house and start eating out of the fridge. Same guy that also planted his entire garden in my field, and said it looked too wet for me to farm so I put my garden there. The BTO that I rent some of my land to, fixed it with one pass.

I really need to write a book about this guy.

Rick

(quoted from post at 19:45:00 12/19/12) This post is a good lesson for all you guys that are always complaining that we have too many rules, too many laws, too much government.....you are living with what "NO RULES" looks like. Make up your mind. Do you only want rules that only keep your neighbors off your land?......or vice versa?

Laws don't bother me much because I am a law abiding citizen and have no intention of breaking them.

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I spent 23 years enforcing the law. It's isn't about no rules, it's about common sense and over reaching gov't. Common sense says you don;t mess up someone elses property. Laws against such stuff have been around forever.