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Topic: patching radial tires?
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mmidlam

12-12-2012 07:09:41
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I have 18 inch load range E radial truck tires on the front of my loader tractor. I ran a 1 inch tree stub though the thread of one. Can a bias tire boot be used to repair the radial in this low speed application?




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Diydave

12-12-2012 17:39:23
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 Re: patching radial tires? in reply to mmidlam, 12-12-2012 07:09:41  
Don't patch a tire, on the front end of the loader tractor. When you have it loaded, that bugger will blow, in the worst possible circumstance, and might roll you over! I know 18's aren't the easiest size to find, but a good casing will be cheaper, in the long run.



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J.Wondergem

12-12-2012 15:33:09
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 Re: patching radial tires? in reply to mmidlam, 12-12-2012 07:09:41  
[quote="mmidlam"](reply to post at 11:09:41 12/12/12) [/quote

They make radial boots for radial tires.



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Retired Farmer

12-12-2012 13:15:03
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 Re: patching radial tires? in reply to mmidlam, 12-12-2012 07:09:41  
Tire guy once told me you can't mix radial and bias because radial flex more.



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RodInNS

12-12-2012 10:39:23
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 Re: patching radial tires? in reply to mmidlam, 12-12-2012 07:09:41  
Just replace the tire. The patch will be worth a good percentage of what the tire is worth with no guarnantee that it will last. It might go a year, a month, a day or an hour. A hot repair on that tire will cost significantly more than the tire is worth.

Rod



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Stephen Newell

12-12-2012 10:00:41
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 Re: patching radial tires? in reply to mmidlam, 12-12-2012 07:09:41  
I think 1" is too much to ask. There will be loose wires that will work themselves through the patch when driven.



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ss55

12-12-2012 09:37:25
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 Re: patching radial tires? in reply to mmidlam, 12-12-2012 07:09:41  
Old used road tires must be more expensive now. How expensive is another used truck tire compared to the cost of a patch, a boot, glue, the downtime from the old patched tire going flat tire at an in-oppertune time and the time to replace the tire a second time?

The downside of replacing the tire is the front tires may not match anymore.



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Ellis Kinney

12-12-2012 09:16:02
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 Re: patching radial tires? in reply to mmidlam, 12-12-2012 07:09:41  
Used to be that a tire store would vulcanize a hole. I bought a Farmall M in 1973 with a vulcanized plug about 1&1/2 inch in dia. It lasted until the tire went slick. Ellis



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old

12-12-2012 08:20:14
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 Re: patching radial tires? in reply to mmidlam, 12-12-2012 07:09:41  
Putting a boot over it glued down will hold for a while. It may hold a year or it may hold 10 or it may hold a week. Something like that at best is a gamble 1 inch is a pretty big hole. But I have patched hole that big or bigger and had them hold a long time



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Uncle Ernie

12-12-2012 07:44:29
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 Re: patching radial tires? in reply to mmidlam, 12-12-2012 07:09:41  
Yep! It will work!
How long???? That you will find out.
I would try it if I could not afford another tire.Actuall have way back when I had to and on a car too... But repairs cost money too and used tires are pretty cheap!



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Dick2

12-12-2012 07:40:55
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 Re: patching radial tires? in reply to mmidlam, 12-12-2012 07:09:41  
A tire shop might repair a radial with damage to the face of the tire, but they have refused to repair damage to the sidewall of a radial - which I've had happen a couple of times.



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Russ from MN

12-12-2012 07:36:40
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 Re: patching radial tires? in reply to mmidlam, 12-12-2012 07:09:41  
A good tire shop might be the answer, depends on how bad the damage is. I have seen some pretty badly damaged tires off of logging equipment repaired by a shop on the MN iron range that repaired tires for mining equipment.
Myself, I might just use the patch and boot suggestion! I have had patches put in truck tires that have a plug attached that you pull through from the inside and then cut off, had great luck with them.

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dhermesc

12-12-2012 07:25:03
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 Re: patching radial tires? in reply to mmidlam, 12-12-2012 07:09:41  
I wouldn't want to load it up after having a 1" hole punched through it. Give it a year and it will be even worse as the radial ply starts to rust.



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DeltaRed

12-12-2012 07:19:27
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 Re: patching radial tires? in reply to mmidlam, 12-12-2012 07:09:41  
Put a regular radial patch over the hole first.Then apply the 'boot'.On a tractor,you could probably get by.However,radials have much more flex than a bias,so do not use a 'bias' patch on a radial that is on a vehicle.



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rabbit

12-12-2012 07:11:37
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 Re: patching radial tires? in reply to mmidlam, 12-12-2012 07:09:41  
Probably - only one way to find out!



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da.bees

12-12-2012 16:32:48
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 Re: patching radial tires? in reply to rabbit, 12-12-2012 07:11:37  
I worked in a large tire store for several years and this is what I can tell you from first hand experience.
Same patchs(different sizes) was used(with mfg's approval)in bias and radial tires. That was before special patchs were marketed for radial.
The only outright failures we saw in any tire with repairable punture was the result of tire busters setting fire to glue instead of waiting for it to dry.
All mfg's forbid patching shoulder or sidewall so we buffed off serial #s and allowed shop employees put them on thier personal vehicles where I don't recall a single patch failing.
Some people here are reccomending a "boot". I don't understand why you would boot a tubless tire. If the tire isn't worn or weathered,I would patch it without hesitation. I'm calling B.S. on much of what is put out by mfgrs and dealers about radial repairs.

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