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What the best 4 row no till planter?

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Next year I am raising corn, so I think it"s time to trade the old 71 flex planter in because I want a planter that has dry fert boxes. What is the best simplest 4 row 30" planter with no till? How important do you feel the moniter is?
 
Allis Chalmers was the pioneer in those. How new and expensive do you want to go? An AC 333 NoTil Special was a good planter in their day. I guess a monitor is only important if the planter STOPS working.
 
I have used a Buffalo No Till slot planter, with good success here in south central Nebraska for a few years. No moniotor still runs plates, takes some math to set up but does a good job.
I have done Milo, Soybeans, and Corn.
 
If I was going to buy a "NEW" 4 row planter tomorrow; It would be a Kinze 3000. Used would be a Kinze 2000. Kinze puts the transmission gears on the side of the planter + no tools rquired. It makes changing settings a breeze compared to squeezing between fertilize, & seed boxes on a JD 7000, or 7200. One thing You wont like about a JD starting with the 7200 is the frame was only available in a wide row. The row markers cant track the center because the frame is too wide on 30" rows. Also if sqeezing into a barn is a problem; the Kinze is 12' 8". JD 7000 will work in no till; but was not heavy enough for my liking in hay fields. 7200 was quite a bit heavier.
 
Cousin used a 7000 on wide rows with no till conversion added for years, was dry box planter. Dry fert got to be scarce in Indiana, he traded up to a 6 row narrow liquid JD. Liquid row starter is a lot easier to handle.
 
800 series ih.....nothing needed to buy; just change the slots on the down pressure springs.
make sure the gap between the opening disc's is set to min. set your depth and away you go.
been using that setup for 21yrs now.
 
A kinze is the best, with a JD 7000 7200 next. You need the finger pickup corn meters.Then take them to a dealer and get them checked. It is real important that all of your corn comes up the same day. Also need keaton seed firmers. yetter trash whippers. Probably 90% of the corn is planted with a Kinze or JD.
 
You can't be serious about the keaton seed firmers. All they do is take perfectly spaced seed and bunch it all up. Also in the black gumbo ground we have in Nicollet County Mn. the dirt sticks to the side of the "tongue" part and makes the trench so wide planter will not close it sometimes. When I got my White planter couple years back, it had them on. I always thought they would be ideal. After about the first two rounds I went to the shop and took them off. Tried adjusting them with more pressure and less pressure. Only way I could get them to not build up with dirt was to back off pressure to where they were not even touching seed and then there is no point having them on so I just took them off. They might work ok in sandy soil but mine is all black gumbo.
 
I need a 4 row because I have a 4 row head, and I'm using row markers not gps. I have always heard the older IH air planters 800-900 were bad about not having even seed place ment and that finger pick ups were alot more precise is this true?
 
Row spacing isn't that critical. My dad planted with a 6 row and shelled with a 4 row for a number of years.
Don't get to wrapped up in seed spacing. In 1982 I won the Michigan corn growers yield contest. Won the national to but Pioneer ganged up on me and the national corn growers took that title from me on a technicality. Class A ground beat all the AA ground non irrigated that year.
Planted with a IH 400 cyclo planter.
 
i was gonna say the samething about planting 6 and shelling 4. shouldn't be a problem unless you have some oddly shaped fields or like to plant when you're drunk.
 
You plant straight it wont matter.I used to plant 4 row and combine 3 rows.Now I'm planting 6 row and combineing 4 row.Unless you have guess rows that are a long ways off,it wont hurt a thing.
 
I have been planting with a JD 7000 that I put no till coulters on for about 10 years and a 494 before that never used a monitor and so far haven't needed one. If I where planting more than 30-40 acres per year I may invest in a monitor. But the JD 7000 are very reliable if you take care of them. Kinse are also excellent planters as that is who designed the JD planters. A lot of parts are interchangeable.
 
You can not beat the finger pick up---When you look cross-ways from the road and you can tell what planter planted the corn that tells you something! They brag about their BLOW or SUCK planters but for a picket-fence stand it has to be FINGER!!!!!!!!
 
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