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ericlb

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ive been enjoying a copy of tractor and machine magazine i picked up at tsc, this is a European tractor magazine which i didnt know, now even with me being a redneck, my interpretation of English english is reasonable, as far as different words used for the same meaning, ie, when a British man is "fitting" a piston to a block, he's doing what we would call 'installing' the piston in the block, the same piston which came out of it, we would use the term 'fitting" to describe machine work done to be able to use a different piston in the block than that which came out of it and so on, but im seeing a lot of antique tractors in the auctions and sales over there as running on petrol [ gasoline] and either paraffin, or tvo, im assuming parifin is kerosene? but what is tvo? saw a farmal cub in there listed for 2600 pounds? about 6 grand????
 
thanks ron, wow im even smarter than i thought.... my wife may have a different opinion...
 
I think it used to be worse than that. Many years ago I was bicycle-touring Europe, and for my little stove I found "parafin", sometimes "diesel", sometimes "petrol", sometimes something else, but as I crossed borders the names changed. What was one thing become the other. I never could figure it, the stove sometimes worked in one country but not across the border..... best of luck. I'm not even going to describe the terror of bicycling suddenly in England, on the wrong side or the road, and coming to the first round-about...
 
just seeing those roundabout worry me, i just know id be the one to pile up everybody, if i ever get to visit im taking the taxi!
 
TVO ( Tractor vapourising oil ) is a mixture of paraffin (kerosine ) and petrol. Over here, paraffin is cheap, so to give good comustion, we used to mix it with a small amount of petrol ( Gasoline ) so that it burned better.
 
If you don"t like "round-abouts", don"t come to minnesota, they"re poping up all over, the part I like is when people stop,don"t signal, and are lost in a circle. Fun to watch, H"ll to drive through.
Dan
 
"Gas Oil" is another European term for diesel fuel. On my first trip abroad I had purchased a new diesel powered auto and when it needed fuel for the first time I drove into a Shell station and found the pumps labeled "Petrol" and "Gas Oil". I suspected that petrol was gasoline but wasn't sure if gas oil was for diesels. I waited for a while until a diesel powered car rolled in and filled up with gas oil. I did the same and it worked great.
 
Those roundabouts take some getting used to. In '96 we rented a car in London and drove all over England, Wales and Scotland. It was raining like heck at a busy roundabout in Scotland, couldn't see worth a darn, and I pulled out in front of a Scottish cop. I think he was going to write me up until he heard my Arkinsaw accent and realized I was a bumbling tourist.
 
I have been lucky enough to be able to take a holiday ( Vacation ) in both the U.S of A and in Canada.My wife and I have driven thousands of miles, ( kilometers in Canada ) with little trouble, EXCEPT, how do you guys decide who goes first at a 4 way junction? With our roundabouts, we are at least travelling slowly enough for accidents to be rare and not too serious.
We have met hundreds of wonderful people in both countries, the old phrase " a stranger is a friend you haven't met yet " certainly applies to you all.
 
, EXCEPT, how do you guys decide who goes first at a 4 way junction?

First one to [b:d49d4bbaad]stop[/b:d49d4bbaad] at the intersection is the first one to [b:d49d4bbaad]go[/b:d49d4bbaad] again
 
We have them all over Wisconsin. The folks who are laughingly referred to as "higway engineers" think they're the greatest thing ever. In reality, the states where they were first put into use about 75 years ago are getting rid of them as fast as they can. They simply DON'T WORK!
As for me? I go right straight thru them. "Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!" (;>))
 
They call them round-abouts like they are something new, traffic circles have been around a long time. Just check out Monument Circle in downtown Indy.
 
Is a roundabout the same as a traffic circle? We only have a few left in Edmonton(Canada) and one of them has traffic lights. It was an experiment to see if it worked better. They realized standard traffic circles don't speed up traffic when it's busy. On 4 way stops, the first person to stop is supposed to be the first person to go but that doesn't always happen. If 2 cars show up at about the same time, the one to the right should be the first to go. The concept of a 4 way stop is OK but in practice half the people coming to them have no clue. They sit there dumbfounded when it's their turn to go or figure they have to stay stopped for 10 seconds when they see you coming to the intersection. That it turn makes you have to wait for them, when they could have been 200 ft. through the intersection. The worst is when it's their turn to go and they sit there for several seconds, then wave at you to go.
 
The rule at 4 way stops is the car to the right has the right-a-way. Unless you got there first then you have the right away. Now in Oregon all that is not true. The car to the right has the right-of-way no matter who got there first. Oh and watch out for no stop, stop signs.
Walt
 
Back in the 1970's, I had a little Fiat Spyder roadster.

The owner's manual and shop manuals were a hoot to read.
 
Roundabouts, if designed and built correctly work very
well,much better than an intersection with lights, providing
that drivers use then correctly.Magic round abouts on the
other hand are a different story!
 
I also have travelled a lot in America and Canada, and have used this forum for a few years now....I am catching on to your terminology....slowly...but as far as English goes and English spelling....Let us not forget who started it and who changed the spelling and terminology. Not wanting to sound too posh or snobby... for correct English spelling and terminology, please consult the Oxford ENGLISH dictionary.....LOL
By the way...it won't list TVO there, but it has already been explained here!
Oh! as for roundabouts, or traffic circles They were designed to sort out the good drivers from the bad ones!....LOL
Sam
 
Try reading a Chinese manual on a generator control set up. It will really confuse you.Terms like pushy wire into term socket 6 board. Make known engine stoping while working on brain board.
 
What's wrong with round-abouts? I always liked them. They keep traffic moving in busy intersections with heavy traffic coming from all 4 directions. If you have heavy traffic on one road and not the other than lights would suffice but a round-about is a simple way to keep things moving.
 
Roundabouts only work if you have competent drivers, that's the problem. We are so in love with roundabouts or "rotaries" here in Wisconsin we are building freeway exit ramps with 4 roundabouts, two on each side, kind of a figure 8 thing. Some of Darwin's theories should start coming into play soon. They were going to install one in our city as part of our new 4 lane by-pass until the unwashed majority showed up at the hearing with pitchforks and torches. Many of our local trucking companies complained they couldn't move 18 wheelers through roundabouts efficiently.
 
Also in the most recent copy of T&M, there is an article about starting a Kohler engine with a "cartridge". Is this a spark plug or an explosive charge to be used instead of a recoil? I"ve never heard the term used before.
 
Open the bonnet to check the dynamo = open the hood to check the generator. Look in the older David Brown manuals for such terminology.
 
Perhaps if you have PERFECT vision, me I have trouble passing the eye test because of side vision. With that possibly the cause I cannot see good enough to be able to tell where the road is and where the rest of the vehicals are as well, so they are mighty dangerous.
 
Your problem is simple. You don't know what "heavy traffic" is. In the state of New Jersey, which was one of the first states to use "traffic circles", which is the correct US name for them, every cop in the state had to attend a class entitled "How To Unlock a Circle". They're quickly becoming or have become history. Let's face it. People in Wisconsin are usually the last to get the word.
 
For a time I had an old English sports car (Singer). This was before the time of turn signal lights; it had little manually-operated wings that recessed into the body. I loved their name: "Trafficator arms."
 
T&M = "Tractor and Machinery" It's the UK based magazine mentioned in the original post. I've been buying them at TSC, but am thinking about subscribing. It features in depth articles that span multiple issues. I also enjoy seeing all of the minor differences that make European tractors look different from the ones sold here in the States.
 
Other people call them round abouts, traffic circles, me I just call them as they are they are SILLY CIRCLES. They are just coming more popular here and most people don't know how to navigate them. It just baffles me to see someone looking both directions when everything goes to the right. People to the right of you are going to go away from you so they don't matter to you.

Steven
 
The trouble with them when traffic is heavy is no one knows how to use a signal. You can have a line coming around at you but if no one signals you don't know they are all turning out before they get to you.
 
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