Case 830 opinions?

There is a Case 830 for sale near me, and I am in the market for something in that size range. Any opinions? I am not sure until I talk to the folks if it is a case-o-matic or not, how well do they work, and how do they shift? Just a hi-lo through the torque converter? The two jobs it may be asked to do is run my vermeer R23 hydraulic rake, which I don`t think it will do without a add-on pump, so the only thing that would make it desirable is how well the case-o-matic works on the baler, looking for a partial powershift to be able to match windrow conditions on the fly easier than with a syncro-range Deere.
 
WE had one(800) and went back to(830) 8 speed.The ONLY way you can change speed is with the brakes and if you are in the wrong gear,that can be hard todo.They will run the same speed in COM as direct unless you have(pulling) a big load in too high a gear,then COM will be slower.Is there any Case dealers in AK.,I never saw any there.
 
Sounds like the COM would take some getting used to, but might be workable. Dragging the brakes on the case when you get to a thick spot might be better than riding the clutch in the deere occasionally. And yes, Yukon Equipment is a Case dealership up here, though lack of a dealership is not a big problem because the deere and NH dealers are as usefull as teats on a bull, so we end up ordering almost everything anyhow.
 
(quoted from post at 13:38:44 11/06/12) There is a Case 830 for sale near me, and I am in the market for something in that size range. Any opinions? I am not sure until I talk to the folks if it is a case-o-matic or not, how well do they work, and how do they shift? Just a hi-lo through the torque converter? The two jobs it may be asked to do is run my vermeer R23 hydraulic rake, which I don`t think it will do without a add-on pump, so the only thing that would make it desirable is how well the case-o-matic works on the baler, looking for a partial powershift to be able to match windrow conditions on the fly easier than with a syncro-range Deere.

I've spent some time an 830 diesel case-o-matic. Those tractors are tough as nails and will last a long time with proper maintenance.

Compared to a JD 4020 or IH 856, that Case will be a bit clumsy and won't be as easy to manuever.

The COM requires a bit of a learning curve. Very tricky to back up to a wagon or implement because the torque converter is not yet locked up and you control the speed with the throttle, just like the automatic transmission in your car. Also, until you pull that lever up and lock the torque converter into direct drive, the tractor will free-wheel. Not a good thing if you have hills.
 
Does the torque converter let you vary the speed if you are running a baler? Can it work like a hi-lo at all, or do you have to drag the brakes the whole time to stay slow?
 
If yours ran the same speed in com as it did in direct drive you had something wrong. The com can be locked into direct drive and you can use it like a regular clutch. This will be hard on it if you are starting a heavy load. The spools can be trimmed a bit on the shoulders and then you can ease them into motion. I have an 800 that I can ease into motion at full throttle in any gear, do a lot of mowing with it.
 
Ok at a light load and 1800RPM,it will be running all most the same speed give or take a tenth or two and in 1-2 or third, the brakes will not hold it back much if at all.The 600s-630s you could control them better.
 
(quoted from post at 16:12:31 11/06/12) Does the torque converter let you vary the speed if you are running a baler? Can it work like a hi-lo at all, or do you have to drag the brakes the whole time to stay slow?

The COM does not work like a hi-lo. It would be of very little advantage on a hay baler.
 
Is it synchronized in any of the 8 gears, or crash box? This tractor looks to be a great deal, but if it is not any better than what I have, I can wait.
 
Post this on the Case forum. There are some great people that can help you with your questions. Kow Farmer (Kurt)
 
Yeah, really, ask on the Case forum because it's obvious some folks here haven't spent much time with a COM. It's a locking torque converter, built very, very stout. COM will be about 1/3 slower than direct, even at part throttle. Great tranny, I love mine. There is a learning curve but it's basically like using an auto tranny in a car or truck. That foot throttle (gas pedal) does the work.

Mines an 811B gasser, I'd love an 830 COM diesel!
 
I think yours had been hot and was warped. The ones we had and still have around (6) all go go slower does not matter about the load. The 400 and 600 did not have as much sucess as the bigger ones
 
I thing we are splitting hairs on this speed thing.It wasn't 4=4,it was more like 4=maybe 3.7 so yes it was slower in COM.These were all new tractors so I don't think they were warped.On heavy PTO work,you could get more done with a 700 with less hassle because(unable to slow engine down) you could not feather the clutch when starting back up.It was just the same as you having your car truck engine running 2000-2500RPM and putting your automatic into drive.COM was a good deal,but worthless on some jobs.
 
I think your memory is playing tricks on you. I don't understand at all what you mean about not being able to start or slow down, makes no sense. And the COM is 1/3 lower according to the op manuals and my experience.

Some people just didn't like the COM and that's fine, but there's nothing wrong with one once you get used to it.
 

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