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Thought i would post a picture of a harvested corn field in my area.This is farmed by a BTO who is using a new John Deere combine.He is using a 12 row header and running very fast.He makes this mess every year.I don"t know how much corn is leaving on the truck,but its easy to see what is staying in the field.It must be the speed he is traveling or the combine settings.
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3 kernals per sq ft equals 1 bu per acre lost. get out there and count them as soon as he is done to find out. regardless, if i was to rent my ground, i would NEVER let a bto have it. that's just me though.
 
Why is the corn green in Oct? We chop green corn, what is the nitrate level like? Is it feild corn or corn for canning. With the price of corn you want all you can get.Even baled stocks are valuable this year. I must be missing something, edyukate me.
 
North Alabama and harvested about 3 weeks ago.It is very warm here and we have had plenty of rain.It's not my ground he is renting but,if it was i'd be hunting someone else to farm it.I just thought i would take a pic before we had a frost.
 
As thin as it looks there is less than a bushel loss. We only plant a little under a 1/2 bushel to get a full stand when planting corn.

Lots of hybrids will shell at the head and hard to avoid. I set everything as best I can and slow down and it still will shell. Sometimes going faster helps.


Gary
 
i have seen some german made corn heads around but no Italians even the Germans are going away now that deere is making a chopper model. if you can get corn to grow that fast you should get about three crops a year
 
Somewhere there is a hungry cow herd that would be happy to chew it down to ground level. In the early fenced in field days that stand would get the spring farrow of hogs or the small dairy herd turned out to graze or last of spring lambs and the ewes for next spring lambing- but only the Mennonite seem to have fences nowadays. May as well wait for frost and see if the deer have been nibbling, collect some venison presuming that no silage chopping is done. RN.
 
I don't understand the problem here. Frost will kill the volunteer corn and provide a nice cover for the soil.
 
hard to say by looking at it this way how much was lost. you bout have to get down on your hands and knees and count right after the combine goes through. most didn't germinate probably, some were cracked and split by the chopper on the way out the back, birds and critters ate some. and the 3 per sq ft formula only counts if your combine has a spreader, not just dumping it out in a windrow. it could be this formula is not valid when you're using a newer combine that does a good job of grinding out the back. but it would still give you an idea when considering loss at the head.
 
1% loss on a 100 bushel crop is 1 bushel... on 200... 2 bushel. Normal rate is half per acre?
Not many combines are going to be under 1% total loss; certainly not a green one. A Lexion... mabey.

Rod
 
Was the corn down when they harvested it? Can't tell very well by the pic but it looks like the corn was going out the back and the chopper was spreading it. We actually had volunteer corn coming up here in Iowa this fall with our early harvest. It really did a good job of telling me who knows how to adjust a combine and who doesn't when I was driving by their harvested fields. We also had some down corn and those areas were green as grass a few days after a warm rain. I don't think I've ever seen vounteer corn like that in the fall here in NWIA.

I've been holding back on commenting about BTO's but here goes. First of all, how many acres does it take to make a farmer a BTO? Most, not all, but most BTO's are pretty darned good farmers. The sloppy ones aren't BTO's for long. Today you just can't do a sloppy job of farming and survive. In my neighborhood there are five of them that I can think of, and all of them are above average operators. The biggest one is so picky they follow their two 24 row planters with a four wheeler to catch any slight problem. When fertilizer is spread the boss is out there stepping off the swath to be sure it's spread evenly. Landlords call them, asking them to farm their land. All five of these BTO's are kind of arrogant and hard to deal with, it just seems to be their nature. They are very competitive and are in a kind of informal competition with each other, but the competition isn't about speed or how fast they can farm. It's about quality of the job they are doing. I see many more small farmers with maladjusted combines than I do with the BTO's. Jim
 
I custom harvest here in central Ga with two old Ford 642's(built by Claas) ant they have ALWAYS been great at leaving nothing behind them but not so this year.I pulled corn in the same area with three other guys that use two newer J.D. combines as well as a 2188 case I.H. and you cant tell any of the fields apart.They all look bad but if you get to figuring on a 230BPA yield 1% would be over two bushels.We lost a lot to shattering just time the head touched it and we also lost some out the back because green leaves and stalks off of high moisture seems to let more corn ride out the back instead of shredding up and working over the sieves like it should.I combined one field at 18.5% moisture and three weeks later went back to the same field and combined some test polts at 13%,if you look at the field now there is only half as much volunteer on the low moisture spot compared to the high one.
 
I agree. I don't care for the bto's here, but thats becuase they are such tough competition. The few around here are excellent farmers.
Josh
 
any bto should be using gps and/or air booms to spread dry fertilizer. none around here still sling it out the back.
and just when did farming become a competition? right there's half the problem.
 
Germans just signed a contract to open a factory in central Minnesota to start making the heads here in this country.

Kinda popular displays at the farm shows the last 5 years, chopping corn heads.

--->Paul
 
Yep, the competition is knocking the young farmer out of ever having a chance to farm on his own unless he has plenty of family land to work with that his siblings don't want to sell out from under him. I'm certainly not defending big farming, but I am defending the good job of farming most of them IN THIS AREA do.

What we are seeing in my neck of the woods is the owner of a large hog feeding company buying land right and left so he can grow his own feed. With the high grain prices I can see his philosophy even though I don't like what he's doing. With land going for 10,000/acre or more here he has to have investors lined up somewhere and I'm suspecting some of them are over seas. What I'm afraid of is large corporations buying land so they can control the expenses and income from the land clear to the supermarket. The ones actually doing the physical farming won't have ownership and neither will their supervisors so the pride in doing a good job will go out the window. Jim
 
shades of the old soviet union for sure... no landowner/farmers, just workers and machine operators and millions starved. way down the road for sure, but that's where we are headed.
 
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