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Tractor Talk Discussion Forum

Topic: Crooked auctioneer
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Steve terplak

10-10-2012 17:07:27
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Just talked to my dad...he went to an auction this evening in
upstate, ny. O'conner's auction service. Was looking at a
nice, clean Chevy S-10 to replace his, which he will use to
drive to the farm and use the tractors...loves his little Chevys.
100 k miles, 6 cyl. Auctioneer said "I'm going to sell the Truck
now, if you'd like to hear it run, follow John outside." He went
outside, heard it start, ran great. Outside for 30 seconds, got
back inside and it was sold. $2500. He and several others
complained but got nowhere. It is a few crooks like that who
give he rest a bad name. Figured I'd share as I like a good
auction story.

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RodInNS

10-12-2012 18:05:02
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 Re: Crooked auctioneer in reply to Steve terplak, 10-10-2012 17:07:27  
Seriously... it's an auction. If someone wants to buy something, inspect it beforehand. When it comes up for sale, be ready to bid.
Mabey he called for bids and got a yell for 2500... hearing no other bids, he sold it. Happens all the time. I can remember going to a TCL auction 11 years ago where they'd go through a whole list of items... mabey a dozen or more... ask if there was any interest in the items... and if you didn't JUMP then, they moved on. Time was short and they wern't interesting in dealing with nickle and dime bids that were far less than the scrap value of the assets they were selling.

Most people... if they'd had the 2500 bid on something that was worth more... would be mad as hornets if the auctioneer tried to drag the sale out to get more money.

Rod

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36 coupe

10-11-2012 05:18:46
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 Re: Crooked auctioneer in reply to Steve terplak, 10-10-2012 17:07:27  
I was at an auction looking for a post hole digger.The were 6 new diggers on the ground.Two guys started bidding running the price up fast.I wondered why.On multiple items one person may bid and others hold back knowing the rest can be bought at the same price.I stayed late to help a friend load some stuff.When I left all 6 diggers were still there.



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gtractorfan

10-11-2012 04:07:00
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 Re: Crooked auctioneer in reply to Steve terplak, 10-10-2012 17:07:27  
Sold in 30 seconds? That sounds awfully quick. On bigger things they usually drag it out. Seems like the seller would be all over this!



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paul

10-10-2012 22:25:51
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 Re: Crooked auctioneer in reply to Steve terplak, 10-10-2012 17:07:27  
Your subject implies there is an honest auctioneer someplace?????

:)

--->Paul



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Keith Molden

10-11-2012 05:35:45
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 Re: Crooked auctioneer in reply to paul, 10-10-2012 22:25:51  
I resent your implying that all Auctioneers are crooks. I for one am not. That's like saying all farmers are lazy because one doesn't take care of his animals. Nuff said. keith



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paul

10-11-2012 09:14:12
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 Re: Crooked auctioneer in reply to Keith Molden, 10-11-2012 05:35:45  
Sorry for my harsh comment, didn't mean it to come out quite like that.

Auctioneers represent the seller, and as such they do - and should - have a slight bias. A buyer needs to watch out for his own intrests.

That's not dishonesty, just how the business is - and should be.

But it does cause a smile when an item is described from time to time.... ;)

I prefer buying at an auction over a dealer or private sale. I just feel more comfortable at the auction environment. Dad took me to them when I was a little kid, and I plan my calander around good farm auctions within 100 miles of me.

--->Paul

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JayinNY

10-11-2012 05:54:20
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 Re: Crooked auctioneer in reply to Keith Molden, 10-11-2012 05:35:45  
Reread the post. It said "a few crooks" not all are crooks. Yes I'm sure your a, real stand up guy.



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Keith Molden

10-11-2012 08:17:27
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 Re: Crooked auctioneer in reply to JayinNY, 10-11-2012 05:54:20  
Jay, I was refering to Paul's post that is just above mine. I don't think I read it wrong at all with all his question marks. & yes, I think I'm as stand up as anyone else on here. No better and no worse. keith



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JayinNY

10-11-2012 08:44:47
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 Re: Crooked auctioneer in reply to Keith Molden, 10-11-2012 08:17:27  
Sorry, I see that post now. I did think you ment the original post.,, ;)



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paul

10-11-2012 09:06:29
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 Re: Crooked auctioneer in reply to JayinNY, 10-11-2012 08:44:47  
My post was tonuge in cheek, but I made it a bit too realistic. Sorry about that. :)

Auctioneer represents the seller, and it's their job to get the most money for the goods. It's the name of the game, how it is and not dishonest, but things are worded in the seller's favor? Its always up to the buyer to look after his own intrests....

In this case as first described, might not be a dishonest auctioneer - just a bad situation. Told people to look t the item, then got to selling it before that got settled out - a mistake, and once he said sold, then what, he can't open it up again, that wouldn't be right either. Auctions move along, th timing just went wrong.

But it sure was a mistake, and leads to some questions at least.

--->Paul

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Keith Molden

10-11-2012 09:19:36
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 Re: Crooked auctioneer in reply to paul, 10-11-2012 09:06:29  
Thanks paul, I appreciate that, and you're right, I would imagine the auctioneer either forgot what he'd said or had poor judgment of time. Should have checked to see if everyone had come back from looking at the truck. More money in his pocket usually because most of us work on percentage. Don't know what happened. We went to an auction week before last as they had some farm equipment advertised. Usually I and most others around here will sell off the wagon (small stuff) for awhile, not this auctioneer, we got there at 10:20 auction started at 10:00 All equipment was sold before we got there. Just looked like poor planning or lack of knowlege by a young auctioneer. Farmall M with good rubber went for $600.00. His loss. Just my thoughts, Keith

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Brad Buchanan

10-10-2012 21:08:54
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 Re: Crooked auctioneer in reply to Steve terplak, 10-10-2012 17:07:27  
That is kinda interesting...

I leased an S-10 in '97 from an upstate NY dealer. Brand new had I think 7 miles on it.

It was a pretty good truck for real light duty as 6 bags of groceries would make it sag in the rear.

The lease was ending and I decided to buy the truck. It was nearing the 40.000 mile mark and was coming off warranty and I took it in to the dealer because the engine was getting loud (as in knock-clatter.

The service manager (dealers son) said that that engine had head clearance problems and they would fix it in a day.

He called me the next day and told me they were ordering a long block for the truck and to pick up a loaner car.

I got the truck back (ran great) and about a year later I was putting a receiver on it and found the trailer pigtail cut off with sides and stuffed into the frame member.

Makes one wonder.

Brad

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NCWayne

10-10-2012 21:06:19
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 Re: Crooked auctioneer in reply to Steve terplak, 10-10-2012 17:07:27  
Funny thing the ones interested in hearing it run were probably the ones willing to pay the highest price for it. Obviously the auctioneer has both questionable integrity as well as questionable common sense, expecially if he was drawing a commission on the sell......Like my Great Grandma used to say, "All fools ain't dead yet"



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Will Herring

10-10-2012 18:38:40
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 Re: Crooked auctioneer in reply to Steve terplak, 10-10-2012 17:07:27  
Usually I notice this sort of dirty trickery when they're running "two rings" of auctioning stuff off... Aggravating. :evil:



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wisbaker

10-10-2012 18:32:19
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 Re: Crooked auctioneer in reply to Steve terplak, 10-10-2012 17:07:27  
Gosh the last one I sold for the county we had to run through the ring 3 times to get $2,700 for it and it wasn't in bad shape, If I'd had a little coin in my pocket I would've bought it and swapped my dad for his Honda Civic he was trying to part ways with.



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Steve Terplak

10-10-2012 18:46:35
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 Re: Crooked auctioneer in reply to wisbaker, 10-10-2012 18:32:19  
My dad was willing to go up over $3k, never got the chance...I bet the auctioneers friend is real happy and the people of the estate aren't happy.



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