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JDseller 10-05-2012 21:13:03 208.126.196.144 Report to Moderator	I have 10-15 log chains that get used to tie down things being hauled or just needing a pull. I have them hanging on a rack that keeps them sorted. The problem I have been having the last 4-5 years it the darn liquid calcium that the state is using to keep the roads clear. It just rusts the chains terrible. Not big flaking rust but makes them real nasty to handle. I had a guy that delivered some things a while back that had painted all of his chains. He said that he just would spray paint them when he bought them. Yes they get chipped where you hook them but the rest was real clean and rust free. So I wanted to do it to mine. I started out with one and just washed it off in some paint thinner. Then I painted it with spray paint. It looked good for about a week them the paint fell off. I looked and the rust under that paint did not let the paint bond to the steel. I was wondering about using Electrolysis to clean them up. Would it work?? I was thinking about using a twenty gallon kitchen garbage can. Put a steel plate with a wire in the bottom. Then make a rack to hold the chain in loops across the inside of the can. Would this clean them back to bare steel?? If I can get them relatively rust free I am going to try dip painting them. I just want them so you can handle them without looking like you fell in a rusty barrel. [Reply]   [No Email]
muleboss 10-07-2012 17:51:22 184.2.96.90 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   Guess it would depend on what color you wanted to paint them on how you clean them. :lol:   [Reply]  [No Email]
Tim Barnes 10-07-2012 14:29:47 98.84.218.25 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to rrlund, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Yepper, vinegar & salt solution will clean it well BUT you need to rinse/soak it in water and baking soda to neutralize the vinegar or it will re-rust again   [Reply]  [No Email]
donol60 10-06-2012 20:40:02 67.22.7.203 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   Wait till winter and drag them through the snow,you do not have to go to far and they will shine. DON   [Reply]  [No Email]
jimlll 10-06-2012 19:00:26 66.217.123.81 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   White vinegar does a nice job of removing rust from imersed parts. cheap also   [Reply]  [No Email]
Will Herring 10-06-2012 18:53:26 50.103.227.28 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   I always drag 'em through the pasture when I go to use them; seems to keep 'em looking fairly good. Maybe hit them with used oil every now and again.   [Reply]  [No Email]
PJH 10-06-2012 18:45:38 50.44.244.217 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   Drag 'em down a gravel road. They'll shine like a new dollar. Gotta switch ends when you turn around, of course. . .   [Reply]  [No Email]
Ron Corkum 10-06-2012 14:33:11 71.7.157.140 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   Utube http://youtu.be/KZCFcxf5IBw Check this video out for one method   [Reply]  [No Email]
Ron Corkum 10-06-2012 14:32:58 71.7.157.140 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   Utube http://youtu.be/KZCFcxf5IBw Check this video out for one method   [Reply]  [No Email]
Ron Corkum 10-06-2012 14:32:03 71.7.157.140 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   Utube http://youtu.be/KZCFcxf5IBw Check this video out for one method   [Reply]  [No Email]
kevinj54 10-06-2012 12:26:00 50.36.187.64 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to Best engine, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see You need to post the reg for that. My books clearly state you can use anything from rope, grade 30, grade 43, grade 70 etc so long as you are in the working range. Nowhere do I see a spec about a certain type of binder either.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Ray 10-06-2012 11:33:57 74.5.145.85 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   If there the old style 5/16 chains your not allowed to use them anymore.The dot wants 3/8 chains and ratchets instead of binders.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Walt Davies 10-06-2012 10:28:14 70.199.228.205 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   Never worried about it a little rust on the Hands UH gloves won't hurt you or the chains. Walt   [Reply]  [No Email]
Dutchman 10-06-2012 10:09:28 69.66.113.248 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   I'm not sure if this works or not .... was told by a older guy he wanted to paint his chains too. so he {living on gravel } drag them behind his tractor a while till they were clean up .. he blew them clean and painted ... not sure how it turn out ... mark   [Reply]  [No Email]
Teddy (punchie) 10-06-2012 08:53:48 74.98.59.127 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   When painting old oil on wagons or on manure spreader wood. Paint chains at same time. Let them sit in the spreader until needed or dry out some. Then store again on rack in building, after most of oil is off or use in fall dragging cord wood. Used Motor oil is thin enough that it is not too messy and work well for a while. May wish to use gloves but all up to you.   [Reply]  [No Email]
TomH in Pa 10-06-2012 06:18:21 67.235.10.94 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   Boiled linseed oil might stick better than paint.   [Reply]  [No Email]
eldo case 10-06-2012 06:17:16 70.195.1.25 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   Use this stuff! Have used it on underbody of Modot trucks and in a stock trailer. Have had very good luck with it. http://magnetpaints.com/underbody.asp   [Reply]  [No Email]
Dachshund 10-06-2012 06:01:31 216.139.126.249 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   I just cleaned one awhile back by putting it in a plastic bucket with Muratic (hydrochloric) acid and water. You need to rinse, then blow dry, then oil or paint.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Royse 10-06-2012 05:58:10 69.36.49.151 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to larry@stinescorners, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   JD, I've never tried electrolysis on chains, but I don't think it would work well. From my limited experience with it, electrolysis works essentially in "line of sight" so I don't believe it would clean all the way around and through.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Allan In NE 10-06-2012 05:10:38 148.66.98.174 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   You're makin' this harder than it is. :>) Hook 'em to your favorite tractor and go for a mile ride down a gravel road draggin' the chains. Allan   [Reply]  [No Email]
Billy NY 10-06-2012 07:36:21 24.29.79.122 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to Allan In NE, 10-06-2012 05:10:38   Yeah but don't go too far or you'll have no chains left, soil will have plenty iron though LOL !   [Reply]  [No Email]
GVSII 10-06-2012 08:54:31 74.71.178.71 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to Billy NY, 10-06-2012 07:36:21   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see I just drag them through the pasture on the way back from the woodlot.   [Reply]  [No Email]
s.crum 10-06-2012 05:05:52 67.142.181.26 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   The cement mixer idea works pretty good as several have said here. Cleans up the hardened on stuff inside the barrel of the mixer that was left by the last guy that borrowed the mixer too.   [Reply]  [No Email]
RBnSC 10-06-2012 04:50:49 76.73.221.117 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   What we do is let the machines leak a little oil and over grease them. That way every time you use them on the lowboy they get a fresh coat. Down south we don't have a problem with calcium in fact I never heard of loading tires with calcium until I read about it here on this forum. But I did have a job taking out a Marina with about 3600ft. of 7ft wide floating dock. We would haul 3 30ft sections at a time on our trailers. Now that caused some rust problems. Ron   [Reply]  [No Email]
Gene Dotson 10-06-2012 03:48:23 69.88.222.62 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   I once found a chail with my chisel plow shank. Don't know how long it was dragging there, but was cleaned up nice and shiny. No telling how long it had been buried, but had a nice chain. Hace hearc of fastening the chain to a moldboard plow and letting the dirt clean them. Gene   [Reply]  [No Email]
showcrop 10-06-2012 02:55:19 75.67.231.80 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   Take two 5 gallon buckets. put a chain in one then a gallon of phosphoric acid then add water until the chain is covered. leave it in for an hour. then fill the other bucket with water, transfer the chain to it, leave it in for an hour while second chain is in acid bath. remove first chain to dry. It is now coated in black iron phosphate. you can top-coat if you want or leave them, but they are now protected.   [Reply]  [No Email]
gene bender 10-06-2012 02:33:57 67.55.227.68 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   Just dragem down s grsbrl road that will shinem up   [Reply]  [No Email]
Cal Innes 10-06-2012 02:12:25 75.213.81.79 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   As already mentioned, I use a cement mixer with a mix of dry gravel and sand. Works slick! I have an old electric mixer and I can set it to working and walk away and do other things while they are getting cleaned up.... maybe an hour depending on how rough the chains are. Cal   [Reply]  [No Email]
LOU from Wi. 10-05-2012 22:33:16 72.160.236.78 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   Put them in a cement mixer with sand or sandblaster sand, turn it on and let em go.Cleans em like new.LOU   [Reply]  [No Email]
casecollectorsc 10-05-2012 21:34:18 64.33.228.223 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   When I was in the Army we cleaned chains by dragging them down a gravel road. Hook about 10 to a wrecker, lift them up and drop in 5 gallons thinner, lift out to dry and drop in 5 gallons of paint, lift out to dry. Course if they are 20 footers probably only 4 or so in 5 gallons.   [Reply]  [No Email]
BigMarv1085 10-05-2012 21:23:16 74.176.249.81 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   Thats what I do is just drag them in a plow field   [Reply]  [No Email]
Rickieblue 10-05-2012 21:22:11 65.37.19.129 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   I think if I had that problem I would shorten a 55 gallon drum to about 24 inches and weld the head back on after welding about 4 pieces of angle iron in it...cut a 12 inch hole in the center of the head, mount it to a rear wheel on the tractor, add a couple scoops of crushed stone..throw a couple chains in her and go and work a field or go for a ride.   [Reply]  [No Email]
BCnT 10-05-2012 21:20:01 68.65.150.242 Report to Moderator	Re: Cleaning up log chains. in reply to JDseller, 10-05-2012 21:13:03   have you got some clean ground thats a lil sandy??? hook em on the back of your 4 wheeler and drag em around till theyre shiny...then paint...gravel road will work too.   [Reply]  [No Email]