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| Red1
10-03-2012 11:07:39
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I asked a tire dealer..after he wanted over 130$/tire..whether anyone has ever come in with bare rims and said put on the cheapest 16 inch tire you have..balance, and I'll take the old ones home, and mount the new ones myself...thus avoiding those costs..
He said yeah,,,doesn't recommend it ....does absolve him from any problems the buyer might have....
P235/65R16...03 saturn vue....cheapest I've found is over 600$/4 tires..and I know I've seen other vues with something along the size of 215/60R16..
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| jose bagge
10-04-2012 09:37:20
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Re: Tires in reply to Red1, 10-03-2012 11:07:39
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| The 4 cyl could have come with either a 215/70-16 or the 235/65-16..There's about a $20 per tire difference in price wholesale between the two sizes...diameter about the same, load carrying capacity about the same, 215 about 3/4" narrower. Best deal in a 235/65-16 looks to be a Uniroyal Tiger Paw T (80k warranty) or a Hankook 727 (100k warranty w/ road haz coverage.
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| INCase
10-04-2012 09:13:22
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Re: Tires in reply to Red1, 10-03-2012 11:07:39
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| I get all my new tires from the Tire Rack. Of course I only live 45min away but have the local mom-pop shop mount/balance. The beater car has gotten used from the salvage yard or craigslist and had been lucky enough to get them on factory rims so i just bolted to the car.
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| cannonball
10-04-2012 04:43:34
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| JDseller
10-03-2012 18:15:42
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Re: Tires in reply to Red1, 10-03-2012 11:07:39
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| I have a Vue that uses 16 inch tires. I have gotten the last two sets at the local salvage yard. The set that is on it now are Michliens that only had 15K on them. I gave $300 for the four.
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| Goose
10-03-2012 16:55:13
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Re: Tires in reply to Red1, 10-03-2012 11:07:39
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| | I buy all my tires online or cash and carry. Several sellers on ebay have free shipping. Then mount and balance them myself with my bubble balancer. Very rarely do I ever have to have someone spin balance them.
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| Red Mud
10-03-2012 16:48:10
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Re: Tires in reply to Red1, 10-03-2012 11:07:39
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| Tires prices differ, depends on where you are located. Let say you buy your tires from Discount Tire, look up zip codes for the big cities in your state and get the price on a particular tire, you'll notice the prices will vary as much as 10 bucks or better per tire. You can also do the zip code outta state, when you find the cheapest price go to you're local Discount Tire store and tell them you will be in the city that had the cheapest price and your local store will give you that price. It never fails.
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| Dachshund
10-03-2012 16:20:02
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Re: Tires in reply to Red1, 10-03-2012 11:07:39
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| I always ask for options in whatever size I need,
then pick what I want. Tire dealers don't always
sell you a tire based on what vehicle you drive,
they will sell you a specific SIZE. I ALWAYS take
the old ones home - and avoid the "disposal fee".
There are several uses around the farm for old
tires - not just for a "wagon". If you buy them
"cash and carry",then there is no other fees
except tire/tax. You can balance them yourself, or
take them to a tire shop, and have them balanced
after you mount them.Even if Goodyear were the cheapest, I'll never buy
another one...Worst tires ever made.
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| brian brooks
10-03-2012 16:16:04
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Re: Tires in reply to Red1, 10-03-2012 11:07:39
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| I just checked tirerack.com and you can get a set of 4 for about 450
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| hd6g tom
10-03-2012 15:30:25
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Re: Tires in reply to Red1, 10-03-2012 11:07:39
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| Unfortunatly the dealer must put the required size back on the vehical, he cannot by law, put the cheepest 16 inch tire he has, on the vehical. Keep your family and the other drivers on the road safe and put the tire on the vehical that it was designed to have. It does NOT absolve him from being sued by the driver you hit or run off the road because you have the wrong tires on your auto.
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| WGWKy2
10-03-2012 15:21:52
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Re: Tires in reply to Red1, 10-03-2012 11:07:39
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| I buy tires online, UPS delivery mount them myself and bubble balance them, no problum.
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| Ray
10-03-2012 14:43:29
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Re: Tires in reply to Red1, 10-03-2012 11:07:39
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| I don't see what you'll be saving if they mount and balance them,just putting them on the vehicle doesn't cost any extra.I just put 6 new 16 inch on my ton truck,$1200.
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| wisbaker
10-03-2012 13:42:52
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Re: Tires in reply to Red1, 10-03-2012 11:07:39
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| 15 years ago I lived in Tennessee, not to far from
Union City where Goodyear had a tire plant. Goodyear
wanted to go to continious production (run Sundays
with no over time). They put it to the Union and
they voted it down, the next day millwrights were in
the plant diassembling tire machines, seems that
morning Goodyear decided the plant was slated for
closure. Goodyear paid good wages, most folks were
making over 50K if they had been their for any
length of time. The Union scheduled a new vote and
the membership accepted the continious production
and avoided plant closure, IF folks could "trade"
their Sundays with another worker, Goodyear agreed
provided they didn't inccur any overtime. Seems the
major objection to Sundays was from about 6-8 folks
that were also Pastors for small congregations, some
were being paid cash and I suspect they weren't
declaring it. Those 6-8 people worked the rest of
the membership up into a frenzy and almost cost them
jobs that were paying almost twice the local
average.
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| jm.
10-03-2012 19:42:02
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Re: Tires in reply to wisbaker, 10-03-2012 13:42:52
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| Drive by that same plant today... Nothing but a concret slab.. Union finaly put them out..Just would not give on old work rules. The economy ther in that area really took a hit.
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| Dick2
10-03-2012 16:28:20
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Re: Tires in reply to wisbaker, 10-03-2012 13:42:52
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| | The company that I worked for had a plant in the south. The employees voted one day to have a union. When they showed up for work the next day, the plant was all closed up and locked. All the equipment and inventory was moved back to the main plant in the Midwest. Plant building in the south was sold to be used as a warehouse.
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| thurlow
10-03-2012 12:12:03
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Re: Tires in reply to Red1, 10-03-2012 11:07:39
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| | quote"""anyone has ever come in with bare rims and said put on the cheapest 16 inch tire you have..balance, and I'll take the old ones home, and mount the new ones myself...thus avoiding those costs.""""" What am I missing here? If you bring in bare rims, aren't your old ones already at home? If he puts them on and balances them, how're you gonna mount them? Maybe it's a regional interpretation......
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| Red1
10-03-2012 12:47:18
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Re: Tires in reply to thurlow, 10-03-2012 12:12:03
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I would take the tires off the vehicle (put jacks all around)...take them off the rims myself and take the rims in for the new ones, have them mounted and spin balanced, I would take the old ones home and throw them in the pole barn...I could probably find 4 @ 55$ to 65$ per .....for a total of around 300$...
Thing is, if you tell the dealer what you drive they will only price you tires for that vehicle...If I tell them its for a toyota camry.....cheaper by a few hundred...
Yeah, I know..frustrated...township trustee, who lost his election a month ago..put tons of river rock down (4 years ago)..and folks are torqued off...no one is getting 1/2 the mileage the tires are warranted for...before this clown was elected I was getting within a few thousand miles on a 50000 mile tire....now not even 20000. New trustee won't enter the pic until 2013..and he ran on the platform of "I will fix the roads"...
Appreciate the feedback. Undoubtedly I will end up paying around 140 - 160$/tire...balanced..valve stems and tire disposal fees...Which are itemized separately from the other costs...
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| mkirsch
10-03-2012 12:09:10
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Re: Tires in reply to Red1, 10-03-2012 11:07:39
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| IIRC, NY state requires the tire disposal fee be paid up front, when you buy the new tire.
Since you're paying for it whether you actually dispose of a tire or not, you're stupid to bring bare rims to the tire shop. The only reason to keep an old tire is if you need it for a wagon or something, and then you may as well bring the old tire off the wagon in to get rid of it.
You can call it a money grab if you want, but it does cut down on people just dumping old tires on the side of the road to avoid paying the fee. Can't avoid the fee, so no point in dumping the tires.
IMHO it would be even better if it were a DEPOSIT like a beer can. You get $5 back for every tire you turn in. Of course, that might encourage theft.
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| english
10-03-2012 15:45:33
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Re: Tires in reply to mkirsch, 10-03-2012 12:09:10
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| What the h-ll does IMHO mean for us simpletons?
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| Trkr
10-03-2012 15:59:27
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Re: Tires in reply to english, 10-03-2012 15:45:33
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| In My Humble Opinion-IMHO
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| Trkr
10-03-2012 12:08:48
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Re: Tires in reply to Red1, 10-03-2012 11:07:39
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| Just bought 8 drive tires for my truck.11r24.5 Bridgestone 726EL's.My cost through national account was $478.a piece.Asked the dealer what they list for,$799.!What the hell happened to the price of tires?
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| jackinok
10-03-2012 12:58:15
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Re: Tires in reply to Trkr, 10-03-2012 12:08:48
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| havent you been watching the presidential smear ad campains? japanese tires have a tarrif now to "protect" american workers. 1000 uaw tire workers protected from competing against cheap jap import tire prices. Oddly enough the american consumer pays the price ,but who cares,as long as we can say "buy american". Cant have it both ways anymore it seems,either a cheap japanese tire price or a expensive american tire price for those who want them. When americans cant compete we just level the field. Of course the japanese have gotten a little smarter also,they immediatly placed tariffs on american goods ,so more american workers suffer when what few manufactured goods we do still make wont sell overseas . BUT the UAW is happy thats the main thing!LOL
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| Spook
10-03-2012 18:32:09
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Re: Tires in reply to jackinok, 10-03-2012 12:58:15
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| I have news for you.
1) It's Chinese tires that have the duty.
2) The UAW doesn't represent American tire workers.
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| jackinok
10-04-2012 12:24:46
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Re: Tires in reply to Spook, 10-03-2012 18:32:09
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| they represented them here for years.knew several guys who worked there.
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| buickanddeere
10-03-2012 12:07:13
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Re: Tires in reply to Red1, 10-03-2012 11:07:39
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| You are going to ride in, carry your family and drive in traffic
with the lowest priced tires on the market?
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| Cold beer
10-03-2012 15:43:13
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Re: Tires in reply to buickanddeere, 10-03-2012 12:07:13
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| Seems they sent a craft (Apollo) to the moon on lowest bidder.
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| buickanddeere
10-03-2012 20:24:04
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Re: Tires in reply to Cold beer, 10-03-2012 15:43:13
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| Not even a worth taking the time to compare the two applications.
Try driving and stopping on the cheapo treads then measure the wet and dry stopping distances on premo tires.
My family is worth more than the few lousy bucks between econo tires and quality tires.
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| soundguy
10-03-2012 11:49:59
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Re: Tires in reply to Red1, 10-03-2012 11:07:39
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| be glad you don't own my f450 dually with 19.5" rims... I needed a spare.. cheapest tire I got was 328$ ARGH!
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| Dick2
10-03-2012 11:40:07
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Re: Tires in reply to Red1, 10-03-2012 11:07:39
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| | Just checked prices @ Costco; 245/70/16 Michelins rated for 60K miles are $168 each plus $15 mounting charge. $732 for 4 tires plus tax and disposal fee. I put 80K rating Michelins on that vehicle in 2005 that cost me $5oo out the door at Costco.
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| tomturkey
10-03-2012 11:32:56
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Re: Tires in reply to Red1, 10-03-2012 11:07:39
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| bought a 235R6016 just last week for my daughters 2001 Merc Van 124$ total. included dismount remount balance recycle fee for old tire. Hancook tire Adel Iowa, Dallas County tire
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| thebigyellowtruck
10-03-2012 11:17:25
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Re: Tires in reply to Red1, 10-03-2012 11:07:39
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| walmart carries the size tire your looking for
between $100-171 depending on the tire.
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