OT: steel cased ammo

KYfarm · Sep 28, 2012

am thinking it is time to get a decent stock of .223 fmj

have a stag ar-15

Has anybody had any consistent problems shooting steel cased, polymer coated ammo out of your ar-15?

thanks and sorry for the off-topic

RGMartin · Sep 28, 2012

Keep your chamber spotlessly clean and you might be fine with it. Some guns just plain don't like it, and will give you fail to extract issues. Don't leave a live round in a smoking hot chamber. Try a few before you buy a bunch.

KYfarm · Sep 28, 2012

yep, I think I will get a box today and see how they go.

Do you have any experience with the scopes designed for AR's?

RGMartin · Sep 28, 2012

(quoted from post at 07:49:22 09/28/12) yep, I think I will get a box today and see how they go.

Do you have any experience with the scopes designed for AR's?

I have used an assortment of different scopes on mine. For general purpose use, My favorite budget scope is a Nikon 2-7x32 "Pro Staff". It is a shotgun scope in their catalog. Can be had for under $150. Bright, clear, repeatable adjustments. On 2x it is super fast and with some practice you can keep both eyes open. On 7x it is more than adequate for groundhogs at 400 yards if you know your holdovers.

Cody Meister 2 · Sep 28, 2012

I have heard that if your AR is stamped .223 only do not shoot steel casings if it is stamped .223/5.56 you can

KYfarm · Sep 28, 2012

it is dual stamped.

I'm being lazy this morning because it is raining (thank you lord for the rain) but what a great excuse to drive to the gun store and buy some ammo to try out!

Rich Iowa · Sep 28, 2012

When I had a Bushmaster AR, I had no problems with any ammo; brass or steel cased, fmj or hp. Rifle shot anything I fed it. Hope you Stag is the same way. Try a couple boxes before you stock up in large quanities. I noticed that the steel cased Wolf ammo was much dirtier than other ammo.

teddy52food · Sep 28, 2012

Clean the chamber after each use as the coating of the casings may gum it up. Also steel on steel is hard on the extractors.

rufus80 · Sep 28, 2012

Only problem I have heard of is in match rifles that don't have a chromed chamber. In competition I have seen guns jam with steel cases because of an unlined chamber.

dhermesc · Sep 28, 2012

Some guns just plain won't shoot any kind of steel cased ammo - DPMS and Olympic are two that come to mind. Olympic specifically tells you it won't work - but I had to try it out for myself just to make sure - it only made it through 4-5 rounds before it started failing to feed - chamber was all gunked up.

Some steel ammo will not work in any kind of AR rifle. If they got carried away with the lacquer sealer (Russian factory tolerances) it will gum up any tight chamber.

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BushogPapa · Sep 28, 2012

For longer term storage, Brass is the most desirable..
If you have a choice, opt for soft point or hollow point..
Military "Ball" is is adequate..

For my bolt-action and groundhogs, I like a 40gr Ballistic Tip over a FULL case of IMR 3031..
That is the Perfect load for mine..shoots Laser-perfect..(Leup. Scope)..
Ron..

oldtanker · Sep 28, 2012

Freind has an AR that doesn't like steel cased ammo. About 1 in 40 with fail to extract. Don't now the brand off the top of my head and he's down south right now visiting grand kids. I do know that some people have been haiving problems with some makes.

Rick

kyplowboy · Sep 28, 2012

If your gun doesn't like steel, if you are in the west part of the state watch the Rural King adds. They have been run'n 55gr PMC fmj's in their sales pretty regular. While my mini 14 will eat anything I feed her these are very accurate out of my little NEF handi rifle I keep in the truck.

Dave

KYfarm · Sep 28, 2012

thanks all for the info, local gun shop-by the time I could get somebody to wait on me (lines of people buying guns before the election)- was completely out of any steel cased .223 and any bulk priced .223 at all.

Just ordered some quality brass shells from cabelas and some rare 32-20 for my dad's old winchester

Tony in Mass. · Sep 28, 2012

Probably just as well. got to remember steel cases are an iron curtain idea, for all the worn out much hated Russian and Chinese rifles, for a soldier to stay alive long enough to find a better gun.
Steel on steel in the chamber, the bolt face- and the 'space age alloy' in your upper reciever is fine for Y3K or a zombie attack, but, not if your rifle is to last a long long time.
Brass cases take the pounding rather than the expensive or irreplaceable steel parts. That's why some live to get reloaded, some got smashed keeping your rifle from getting smashed.
And... if this stuff is from eastern Europe or Asia... if most likely has a corrosive primer, no swet with your chrome barrel, but the rest of the action would have to be field stripped and cleaned with solvent at the end of every shoot without fail.
I have lived thru atleast 5 gun grabbin black helicopter, red hoard invasions, so I wouldn't be so impatient to not hunt down a stash of brass cased FMJ, or handload whatever brass and bullets you do run across.
But you finding 32-20 brass is enough of a find to make my year, good going!

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