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Topic: Update: Help! Water line woes
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CB in central NY

09-14-2012 07:34:23
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Thanks to the suggestions I was able to hook a pump to a mid-point in my line and push the water through. I am now confident that the line is clear. But not out of the woods yet...

Yesterday I hooked my regular shallow-well pump to the pipe in the house. It draws water and fills my pressure tank but it takes a while to come to pressure - about 4 or 5 minutes. So I took the pump off and let her run into a garden hose. The stream is not consistent in that the water flows well for a few secons and then drops off a bit, almost like it's picking up air somewhere. I checked all the accessible fittings and tightened them. My only hope (probably a fool's hope) is that the pump's impeller got trashed by all the sand and silt that it pulled through. I've got a rebuild kit coming but can't be sure it'll fix the problem.

I've checked the area where I think the line runs underground and saw no water anywhere. Then again, since it's a suction line, maybe it wouldn't show up. I would surely hate to dig it up...

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El Toro

09-14-2012 13:51:29
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 Re: Update: Help! Water line woes in reply to CB in central NY, 09-14-2012 07:34:23  
I think you may have a pin hole in the water line as George suggested. Hal



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Richard G.

09-14-2012 10:20:33
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 Re: Update: Help! Water line woes in reply to CB in central NY, 09-14-2012 07:34:23  
I have had the same problem pulling water out of a creek to pump into a pond. Pump is about 10 feet above the creek and about 200 feet from creek. Foot valve in creek. Stream of water would be great for a few seconds then drop off to nearly nothing for a few seconds. Kept cycling like that.
Realized that line from creek had high and low places in it. The high places had air pockets in them. The pump would pull a vacuum on the air pockets and at a certain point, would suck water in through the foot valve. Water would flow well for a few seconds and then slow down to a trickle. Walked the line and picked it up as I went to get all the air out. With no air in the line, I now have full flow at the outlet.
When I bury the line, I will make sure it is going uphill all the way to the pump so there can be no air pockets.
You may have to put a lot of water and pressure on the bottom end to force all the air out at the pump.
Richard

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George Marsh

09-14-2012 08:12:17
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 Re: Update: Help! Water line woes in reply to CB in central NY, 09-14-2012 07:34:23  
CB, Is your pump making air bubbles? If so, air must be coming from some place.

A. could be pump seal.
B. could be a hole in pipe.
C. Lack of supply water
D. My old packard jet well was making air. Bad well screen, pump was sucking hard pulling air past seal. Replaced well old well. No way was I putting money in an obsolete well.

So go to where you added the second pump. Install a shut off valve before second pump. Shut off line at house. Pump up pressure, shut off valve when second pump shuts off and see if pressure bleeds off. If it does, good guess you have a hole in pipe.

LOL
George

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