school tax time

Last year I paid $4200 on 7 acres, average ranch house and a barn. Have to add on county tax after that.
 
Spending by government at all levels is completely out of control. We Must reign in their spending.
The big spenders will scream and yell and say - but "it's for the kids" and tug at everyone's heartstrings.
The education system in the US is failing our kids despite the massive spending.
It's time to draw a line in the sand and force the education bureaucracy to do what they are supposed to be doing. On LESS.
 
Yep mine are high here as well.

But somebody paid there taxes 50 years ago so I could go to school. 25 years ago I paid mine so my kids could get an education and now I am paying for my grandkids education.

Gary
 
Sad part is about $1.50 of your $3500 will actually make it to the kids, the rest will go to unneeded administrators,multiple vice principals,extravagant offices,fuzzy warm feel good programs and other bureaucratic waste.
 
I own 1.3 acres with a 1200 square foot 37 year old ranch in upstate new york and my school tax bill is 4600.00 this year and will be more next year
 
Our real estate tax on our farm is mainly used to fund schools.(Some goes to welfare dept). Tax went up fifteen percent this year,yes in one year.Can't tell me the cost of operating the schools went up that much in one year. Salaries possible went up 2-3% in a year. What are they doing with that money.Some finance people calculating these rates need to be called on the carpet or something.
 
Bob,

The first guy doesn't have a chance. All my property insurance is $6000 and my taxes is $7600. This doesn't include car and truck insurance, about $1600 auto ins. My Fed quarterly taxes is $1500. Always pay at end of year too.

BTW, I'm retired.

Want to trade?


George
 
The county I live in the cost of education is almost $10,000/child/year. $4,000 from county, $600 federal and the rest the state. 80% of the money goes to school employee pay. A school employee can retire with only 20 years of service. Most just work in one county 20 years and go to the next for the next 20 years and get 2 pensions. I live goes to an elementary school cars are only there from 8:15 to 3:30.
 
NO! Notice I didn't complain. Even though I disagree with the "system" as it is, and where it's headed, I don't have much to complain about compared to many others.
 
15% !!!! Yikes. School tax bill up 8.6%. There will be another "real estate" tax (county/town) bill in Jan. Usually runs about the same as school tax.
 
Taxes and rising cost of all kind is exactly why after new highway took excellent retirment location in southern ind hills wife and I sat down and considered all options. setled on going to my farn actually deeded to kids . We bought used 16 by 80 trailer remodled as needed (less than 4000.00 remodeling cost) bough new truck all was cash. put lots of cash in safe deposit boxes in different banks, hid some. use debit cards, buy what we want don't even look at prices just get what is wanted. Life is good!!!!
 
As a current highschool student I get to see how ridiculous the system is every day. Our school has 2,000 students. As a result we have 1 principal, 5 vice principals, and a secretary for all 6 of them! They have "5 star" offices...while our science books refer to the Soviet Union in the present tense.....


WT
 
Hey old friend how you doing?? Saw your brekfast Doctors got you thinking healthy huh???Will call you later today
 
Wow, guess I should not complain at my $600 plus tax bill. They ag exempt everything but the house and 10 acres, pay a fire acre tax. 145 acres, house , storage building and 2 barns
 
Suppress your common sense and just keep kidding yourself that the taxes, like the teachers unions are "all for the kids".
 
$2000 on 157a. The town county tax will be about the same in Feb. The disturbing part is the school has about 60% of the students of ten years ago.
In England some rural schools own a fair bit of farmland and have for centuries. The rent received from that land pays some of the cost of operating the school. Here I guess they own all of it and receive rent on all of it.
 
$4800 on 1.6 lot with 2100 sq ft house, no garage, no barn.

The way I see it the biggest problem with school budgets in general is the too high cost of upper administration that in my opinion are redundant and do little that actually "touches" the kids in the classrooms.
As a accountant and software consultant I have experienced first hand the waste in school budgets.
For example, if the maintenance dept does not use its entire budget by year end, then they go out and buy a bunch of new equipment or supplies needed or not to use up their budget or fear their budget will get reduced. All the dept"s do the same thing.
There is no reward or incentive to be thrifty or cut costs. Until the tax payers revolt and vote down the school budget it just creeps up and up and up. Then when it does get voted down, teachers union plays the "its for the kids card."
I have to agree with this 20 yrs and retire stuff not being fair to the rest of us. Same for police, fire and sanitation dept"s. Put in your 20-25 yrs, work massive overtime your last 2 years to inflate your pension calculation and then retire on 1/2 to 3/4 of your regular pay.
When the median life span was shorter it was feasible, now it needs to be moved up to 30-35 years or else you can retire but not start collecting till your 60 or 65. Population growth is slowing and the actual percentage of people working is decline. NEW MATH just doesn"t add up!
Pete
 
I hear you, 30+ years ago I had the same opinions about the local school system. I got on the Board, by the end of my 12 years I realized that the school was there for the students and teachers. If a taxpayer has a question they can go to the Board office and look at the books or attend any board meeting. I think a lot of people just complain at tax time. Get involved!
 
I saw on the news that the city of Allen, Texas has a new HIGH SCHOOL football stadium that costs $60 million dollars and that the facilities exceed a lot of four year college stadiums. Now I know that high school football is big in Texas, but I wonder how the gridiron proponents managed to get that past the voters.....
 
Seems like Canada ain't that greedy.
I pay $1200 on 1800 acre,incl the house and yard.
I get $1800 back in powerline revenue.
I ain't complaining :wink:
 
I was on the local school board when they first Unionized the teachers. We had been saving money for several years to repair the old school buildings we had. They needed new furnaces and insulated windows. We still had three that where coal fired. We where doing a school every other year just by saving the money else where. The first thing the Des Moines Union guy did was raise he!! that we had "cheated" the teachers out of that money by not paying them everything in the budget. They then started talking about how our pay was so much lower than the highest district in the state. No mention of the fact that our cost of living was much lower too. Our teachers where in the top 20% of wage earners in the district.

When they started raising cane I had my maternal Grand Mother keep track of the time the teachers actually worked. The local grade school was right across from her house. She would log when they got to school and when they left. She even wrote down what they where carrying. So if they had a arm load of books or papers we gave them credit for working at home. It worked out they they where working about 35 hours each week. Average one getting there at 8:15 am and leaving at 2:45pm. That was giving them credit for working at home too. Then they had the summer off. They where making about $30 an hour for the actual time worked. This was in the 1980s.

Before the Union got a hold of the schools we had the top schools in the nation. The Iowa tests results showed that. Now we are in the bottom half. Makes you get all warm an fuzzy about these teachers today doesn't it???

I finally did not run for another term after ten years. I was get sick of the waste and mis-management. The local high school has a total of 350 kids. We have a Principle and a vice principle. The principle makes $100K each year. The lazy slob weights in at over 400 lbs. We had to put in a special chair for him because of his "handicap". When I started the board the principle made $1500 more than the teachers. Plus he taught at least a class or two each day as well.

Today we are buying Harbor Freight teachers at Snap On prices. My grand kids can tell you how to put on a condom but can't tell you who wrote the Declaration of Independence.

For this "improvement" I am paying $15,000 each year in real estate taxes. That is more than the farm mortgage payment was when we bought it in the mid 1980s.

Want to know a real sickening thing. Our local school board now had two retired teachers on it. They always vote for anything the teachers want. There are two more running this year. They play on the fact that they know all these kids and parents so they are hard to bet in the election. All of us local farmer type are just mean old tight wads. If they get these two in they will have a majority on the board. Can you imagine what they will give their old teacher buddies??? Also all four are drawing teacher retirement. None of them are over sixty years old. So they will get their retirement and the school board pay. Seems kind of like letting the fox run the hen house.
 
Recently there was a vote here on closing one of the school buildings. It was voted down. The school board ignored the vote. The thing they like to spend money on here is new building projects.
I served seven years in three different capacities in town government, including supervisor. Most frustrating.
Get involved my a$$.
 
(quoted from post at 08:42:18 09/02/12) I was on the local school board when they first Unionized the teachers. We had been saving money for several years to repair the old school buildings we had. They needed new furnaces and insulated windows. We still had three that where coal fired. We where doing a school every other year just by saving the money else where. The first thing the Des Moines Union guy did was raise he!! that we had "cheated" the teachers out of that money by not paying them everything in the budget. They then started talking about how our pay was so much lower than the highest district in the state. No mention of the fact that our cost of living was much lower too. Our teachers where in the top 20% of wage earners in the district.

When they started raising cane I had my maternal Grand Mother keep track of the time the teachers actually worked. The local grade school was right across from her house. She would log when they got to school and when they left. She even wrote down what they where carrying. So if they had a arm load of books or papers we gave them credit for working at home. It worked out they they where working about 35 hours each week. Average one getting there at 8:15 am and leaving at 2:45pm. That was giving them credit for working at home too. Then they had the summer off. They where making about $30 an hour for the actual time worked. This was in the 1980s.

Before the Union got a hold of the schools we had the top schools in the nation. The Iowa tests results showed that. Now we are in the bottom half. Makes you get all warm an fuzzy about these teachers today doesn't it???

I finally did not run for another term after ten years. I was get sick of the waste and mis-management. The local high school has a total of 350 kids. We have a Principle and a vice principle. The principle makes $100K each year. The lazy slob weights in at over 400 lbs. We had to put in a special chair for him because of his "handicap". When I started the board the principle made $1500 more than the teachers. Plus he taught at least a class or two each day as well.

Today we are buying Harbor Freight teachers at Snap On prices. My grand kids can tell you how to put on a condom but can't tell you who wrote the Declaration of Independence.

For this "improvement" I am paying $15,000 each year in real estate taxes. That is more than the farm mortgage payment was when we bought it in the mid 1980s.

Want to know a real sickening thing. Our local school board now had two retired teachers on it. They always vote for anything the teachers want. There are two more running this year. They play on the fact that they know all these kids and parents so they are hard to bet in the election. All of us local farmer type are just mean old tight wads. If they get these two in they will have a majority on the board. Can you imagine what they will give their old teacher buddies??? Also all four are drawing teacher retirement. None of them are over sixty years old. So they will get their retirement and the school board pay. Seems kind of like letting the fox run the hen house.


Seems to me that allowing currant teachers or retired teachers on the school board is a serious conflict of interest.
 
Move to Oregon I pay $700 on 37.5 acares and a house and large barn. Ain't it great to have farm deferral. They wanted to build a new high school for $80 million we voted that down because they couldn't tell us what they were going to do with the old school which was ten years old. Wow my old high school celebrated it 100th anniversary in 1997.
They just remodeled the auditorium the year before looked great.
Walt
 
When farming in Wi.,20yrs ago our tax bill was $7000.00 on 200 acres with outdated, rundown buildings. That is $ 35.00 per Acre Rite acros the road was Ill. Same land , Taxes were $35.00 per Acre.
 
MN - basically $2,200 on a hair less than 80 acres! It has more than doubled, probably closer to tripled, in our 26 years of owning our farm. It is crazy.

NOTHING fancy here either! Our house is a small 3 bedroom built about 96 years ago with a detached 1 car garage. Only out-buildings are the small old original farm buildings that we have sided and roofed to preserve them.
 
Ask for an itemized statement. You will probably find that the buildings are over 75% of your tax bill. Bare land is taxed at a very low percentage rate compared to residential homes.
 
The problem doesn't seem to be the taxes, but the fact that incomes for most folks aren't rising.
 
And about 50% of the entire country is getting a free ride cause they aint got a pot to pi$$ in, wont work, and dont want a pot to pi$$ in.

Gene
 
OOPS, I made a mistakein my earlier post about taxes in Wi.and Ill. The Ill. taxes were$ 11.00 per acre, NOT $35.00. Sorry ! clint
 
We have school board members that are married to teachers, this way the the teachers can go to Madison and protest and work on the campaign to recall the governor and collect their sick pay AND get time credit for their retirement. We have judges that are married to teachers, administrators and union officers that rule on cases dealing with schools, union contracts and legislation that limits collective bargaining rights.
 

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