oats into wheat ground?

is it worth trying to double crop some oats into the wheat ground with the lack of rain? wouldnt mnd a bit more feed but im not hurting for it.

the other thing is i dont have a notill drill, how hard would it be on a conventional drip to get some seed in the ground?

maybe broadcast it and lightly work it in with diamond harrows?
 
Oats is a cool spring crop, don't think it would be a good option. What would work is a sorghum sudan grass. Usually does pretty good planted late in season.
 
When I worked in Oklahoma we grew sudan grass on wheat ground and then chopped for silage. I've also seen soy beans drilled on wheat stubble.
 
A guy in Kansas told me that if you want the best fall grazing, plant oats. But plant them the last week of August. AND you have to get the seed underground or it will just lay there dry. A little dirt and a little rain and it will sprout and die. Find a drill that will put it an inch underground. I use a JD 1590 no till drill 20 feet wide.
 
Personaly ive not had much problem planting oats in just about any way.Ive dropped a feed bucket on the ground and they would grow. I would just put them in my regular drill and try it.Your harrow would plug up too bad i would think if you had lots of loose ground cover.Of course oats will freeze kill on you.I plant them in fall for deer but we NORMALY have fairly mild winters.And i'm not really trying to make a real crop. Just curious,none of my buisness at all,why oats instead of wheat?IN MY OPINION( got to say that been in way too much trouble lately) wheat does better in dry weather,and if your trying to make a crop probably would make you more money than oats even if your harvest was way down,with basicaly the same gas money.but again thats MY opinion.my question would be wheather to fertilize or not now, or wait to see if the weather broke.but again THATS MY OWN opinion. I do plant oats just about every year for ground cover,or variety in my food plots.but if i were attempting to still make a cash crop,the simple fact that they can winter kill would turn me off them.to many things to worry about without adding another!LOL
 
A farmer in Indiana plant winter wheat after he harvests corn, the same day he combines, he bales the straw and plants beans. Gets a triple cash crop that way.
 
Depends on wher your at- southern Ohio Valley or South Dakota. Central Iowa a couple times oats has been late summer/fall planted for erosion control and some pasture, a early bean harvest or winter wheat as neighbor used for his dairy herd spring feed means oats can get to green dough stage and be green chopped with corn for silage or cut for late hay crop after hay sprout nurse crop use. As noted the neighboring dairy farmer used it in rotation with winter wheat for continous cover on slope and green chop/feed stock.
 
I've planted a fair amount of oats, and have been involved with harvest, in addition to planting them for food plots, I can share some of what I have seen.

One year field tillage was done, moldboard plowing, followed by a heavy disc harrow, in clay/loam/ with a little gravel mix type soil. The oats were broadcast and the last pass was a cultipacker. The germination of the seed was good, but there was a noticeable amount of ungerminated seed still on the surface. If wet weather persisted, those remaining seeds may have also germinated, even without a lot of cover, the root still penetrates the soil, and I have seen the same thing happen after harvest, whereas the oat grass came back and most if not all spilled oats on the surface germinated within the field. Field was sprayed for weeds as well. Crop was good, yield was good, and 10 700 lb bales of straw came off it. That year, all of the oat grass came back and even headed out again, you could have baled it, harvest would not get much grain but due to rains and weedkiller, I was amazed, turned into one big food plot for deer, was counting 30 in there often.

Following year, same tillage, oats drilled in, germinated fine, crop was fine, weed killer applied and I believe some additional fertilizer, I helped harvest and hauled the grain the to the buyer myself, the bale count was five more, 15 total, which fills the tandem grain/sileage body Mack DM we used to haul it. Quite a bit of oat grass came back but there was less rain and more weeds.

On my own , I have moldboard plowed, made 1 pass with a mounted disc, then broadcast oats, made another pass with the disc, mid to late august, and the results were excellent, I think a little earlier, and depending on rain, temperature overall weather, PH and fertility being right, oats seem to like nitrogen, you could make a decent grazing stand for the fall.

What you describe, broadcasting on untilled ground would seem to be marginal or less, really don't think without going to no till or some tillage to get some soil loose and make decent contact to the seed, the results will be dismal.

I learned a lot by helping my farmer friend an on my own, I also enjoyed the heck out of planting several food plots, and as much as a pest deer are or can be, we take a few annually for food, they were finished on oat grass which is high in protein, the meat was excellent, of course they browse for the most part but boy did they graze the heck out of what I planted, its like having a herd without fences, water trough's vet bills and what have you.
 
Sorghum will only work where the growing season is long,first frost and it is done.Oats will grow untill a hard freeze.We are planing on no-tilling oats into our small grain feilds the middle of Aug. with some rain we should harvest a good crop in Nov. We will round bale and wrap it.
 

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