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something shorted and burnt the wiring harnes just before it plugs in to the ECM..... Set myself a rule that when repairs would cost close to a replacement vehicle, that I'd replace it... No real telling where all the harness could be damaged and 60 bucks an hour for headscratching and a maybe could add up quick. Gonna junk my sportage and pick up a VW Polo tomorrow (for considerable less money than a new coil pack and ECM would cost (assuming they were damaged on the kia)... .. May miss the 4wd sometimes, but frt wheel drive and twice the gas mileage may soften the blow some...
Back to the roots.... I always liked the VW's anyway...
 
(quoted from post at 19:01:49 07/03/12) what kind of vehicle is it. couldnt you find yourself a good used harness.
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Kia sportage (97)...
Used harness on ebay= 200 bucks
New coil pack (couldn't find used and I think the coil pack was the root of the problem)= 100-150 bucks
ECM= used 150+ bucks and new not in my line of thinking...
getting someone to install it= 60 bucks per hour x ???
Possibility of the wire fry having screwed up something else????
Borrowing/renting a driver til it's fixed=???

Go this afternoon and pick up (unless it's not worth anything) a vehicle that gets about twice the mileage, easier to work on, cheap parts, and historically reliable for 600+/- a little expected haggling bucks.
Just means using the tractor, quad, and bicycle more... which really isn't a bad thing....
 
Dave, Not being NASTY( I could be, because I turned 77 yesterday)But my question to you would be,"Just what in the he-- would you do if you didn't have answers to your rinky dink problems being solved here"? You seem to have more small problems then you have answers for.Learn to fix em or just give up and hire it done. Regards LOU.
 
(quoted from post at 20:39:22 07/03/12) Dave, Not being NASTY( I could be, because I turned 77 yesterday)But my question to you would be,"Just what in the he-- would you do if you didn't have answers to your rinky dink problems being solved here"? You seem to have more small problems then you have answers for.Learn to fix em or just give up and hire it done. Regards LOU.
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Happy Birthday Lou.... Hope you had a good day... Seems like you missed your nap today and are a little cranky tho... You'll get better results if you try takin out the frustration some other way than bating an argument with me...... Sleep good. Tomorrow is another day.

Enjoy your 4th of July.

Dave
 
Thanks for the "Happy Birthday ".Realy didn't miss my nap at all.Just reading your post when you do, brings to mind,Wonder what Dave 2 will be complaining about this time?. You never fail me.I'm not trying to bait you into an argument at all, just observing and wondering why you don't research the web for qualified answers instead of broadcasting all the meaningless problems you inquire from day to day or at least hire people to fix or advise you from the local pool of folks who can be of help where your at?The saying that comes to mind is"GOD HELPS THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES" I've learned a lot, being in my late 70s that being self sufficient as much as possible ,fixing items that are broken, worn out etc,just to stretch the budget until time comes around and funds become available.YOU should have been able to install a power steering kit that was manufactured for you particular tractor with little brain effort, or meanial mechanical skills.Ever hear of a power steering pump factory installed on a 1972 Ford F 150? Never had em. It took me about two weeks to figure out how to mount it and re-design the Pitman arm to accomidate the steering arms ect. That was LONGGGGG before we had a computer to research the possibility. All the installation of our re manufactured parts passed the DOT inspectors.Still Plowing snow years later with no malfunctions.What I'm suggesting ,is for you to at least try and solve your small problems with out crying the blues over such mundane problems. Have a happy 4th. LOU.
 
(quoted from post at 22:09:30 07/03/12) Thanks for the "Happy Birthday ".Realy didn't miss my nap at all.Just reading your post when you do, brings to mind,Wonder what Dave 2 will be complaining about this time?. You never fail me.I'm not trying to bait you into an argument at all, just observing and wondering why you don't research the web for qualified answers instead of broadcasting all the meaningless problems you inquire from day to day or at least hire people to fix or advise you from the local pool of folks who can be of help where your at?The saying that comes to mind is"GOD HELPS THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES" I've learned a lot, being in my late 70s that being self sufficient as much as possible ,fixing items that are broken, worn out etc,just to stretch the budget until time comes around and funds become available.YOU should have been able to install a power steering kit that was manufactured for you particular tractor with little brain effort, or meanial mechanical skills.Ever hear of a power steering pump factory installed on a 1972 Ford F 150? Never had em. It took me about two weeks to figure out how to mount it and re-design the Pitman arm to accomidate the steering arms ect. That was LONGGGGG before we had a computer to research the possibility. All the installation of our re manufactured parts passed the DOT inspectors.Still Plowing snow years later with no malfunctions.What I'm suggesting ,is for you to at least try and solve your small problems with out crying the blues over such mundane problems. Have a happy 4th. LOU.
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Have a good day Lou...
 
Have you seen the Fiat 500? Maybe it's a crime to own one in Germany...

I want one. I watch a lot of "Top Gear."

I loved the episode where they battled the Top Gear team from Germany and showed up in a bunch of Spitfire planes! That was tremendously funny!


I like the Audi A4 cars. They will practically pleasure you while driving. I think it's on the list of options. The VW Rabbit (new one) was a little gem. I don't know if the polo is available for the north american market. I'm fond of cars that I can fix myself, so I stay clear of anything that requires $3000 in service manuals and updates for my snap-on modus.


How about Ford cars over there? Are there any that we can't get in the states? I know Australia was privvy to a Ford Maverick in recent years, but wasn't sure which platform it was built on. (volvo? gag!)



Tell me what the most common cars you see on the road.

Citroen? Fiat? Chevy? mercedes? volvo?

I'm intrigued... a Friend of mine is thinking of moving to Gilching, Germany. He works for Eaton.

I'm jealous as he got to take a company car on the autobon. A rented mule on an unrestricted highway... breathtaking...

I want to drive a tractor on the nurburgring. Just let that diesel exhaust fly and try not to get run over! hahaha
 
While I would definitely look at replacement, I would also be
keeping my eyes out for a wrecked Kia or one with tranny
problems. There is still residual value in that Kia unless you
are ready to see it go.

Aaron
 
(quoted from post at 00:17:36 07/04/12) Have you seen the Fiat 500? Maybe it's a crime to own one in Germany...

I want one. I watch a lot of "Top Gear."

I loved the episode where they battled the Top Gear team from Germany and showed up in a bunch of Spitfire planes! That was tremendously funny!


I like the Audi A4 cars. They will practically pleasure you while driving. I think it's on the list of options. The VW Rabbit (new one) was a little gem. I don't know if the polo is available for the north american market. I'm fond of cars that I can fix myself, so I stay clear of anything that requires $3000 in service manuals and updates for my snap-on modus.


How about Ford cars over there? Are there any that we can't get in the states? I know Australia was privvy to a Ford Maverick in recent years, but wasn't sure which platform it was built on. (volvo? gag!)



Tell me what the most common cars you see on the road.

Citroen? Fiat? Chevy? mercedes? volvo?

I'm intrigued... a Friend of mine is thinking of moving to Gilching, Germany. He works for Eaton.

I'm jealous as he got to take a company car on the autobon. A rented mule on an unrestricted highway... breathtaking...

I want to drive a tractor on the nurburgring. Just let that diesel exhaust fly and try not to get run over! hahaha
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I'll answer you later... I'll be working while everyone is 4thing :roll: There's no quick answer to your ???'s...
 
(quoted from post at 04:24:34 07/04/12) While I would definitely look at replacement, I would also be
keeping my eyes out for a wrecked Kia or one with tranny
problems. There is still residual value in that Kia unless you
are ready to see it go.

Aaron
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Sad thing is... these little things just don#t tear up that often.. It's a long story, but it would cost me more than it's worth to keep it around waiting on a donor. Any car a US service member/civilian has has to be plated and insured. Also can only have 2 vehicles without a waiver and hassle for a third. I hate to, but I think it'll be on it's way to africa.....
 
After reading the details of your problem, I understand why you're choosing the solution you are. Obviously, if you "let the smoke out" of the wires, there was a short somewhere...and even with a replacement harness, whatever caused the initial short may still be there to short out the replacement harness. No use getting your shorts in a twist over the shorts...let the next guy figure it out.

When I was a teenager keeping my "junkyard refugee" cars and trucks on the road, I had a rule of thumb. Break your analysis of a vehicle down into 4 areas: body, mechanical, interior/glass, and electrical. Then never buy/keep a vehicle with major problems in more than two areas...and if it has electrical problems, START by counting that as two instead of one. That rule has served me well in not getting hung up buying a true lemon over the years.

My guess is, your Sportage probably has a problem or two other than electrical...which, by my rule of thumb above, puts it over the limit for keeping or investing much money into.
 
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