Water pump ideas (manual)

Anonymous-0 · Jul 3, 2012

Hey,
Have a water wagon (two tanks) with 3/4" faucets that gravity feed. They are only about a foot higher than the tub they fill so kinda slow (with a 1/2" hose). Anyone know of a simple (and manual operated) way of speeding things up... Just set them up yesterday and haven't had any headscratching time. Thinking just a couple fittings and a length of 2 or so inch PVC will be the ticket, but if a simple/wife friendly pump is available and practical, I'll look that way also....

Thanks, Dave

DH in Carolina · Jul 3, 2012

Maybe mount a bicycle on the wagon and remove the back wheel. Mount a pump and let the sprocket chain run the pump while she exercises. Kill two birds with one stone. She gets healthy and you get your water pumped.

Tom in TN · Jul 3, 2012

Dave,

I am so glad you asked this question. I have a remote pasture
that I have to haul water to when I restrict my cattle into that
pasture. I have two 65 gallon water tanks that I haul on a utility
trailer and each of them gets emptied through 5/8 inch hoses
relying on gravity feed. It takes nearly an hour for the tanks to
empty into the water troughs that I use for the cows to drink
from.

There has to be a simple pump mechanism to speed up the
process. I hope to learn from the responses you get to your
question.

Tom in TN

DH in Carolina · Jul 3, 2012

Don't know what your tanks are made of , metal or plastic but I would get a couple bulkhead fittings 2 inch. Hole saw a new hole in the tanks and install a 2 inch ball valve with a 2 inch hose to empty the tanks.

Anonymous-0 · Jul 3, 2012

(quoted from post at 12:28:13 07/03/12) Dave,

I am so glad you asked this question. I have a remote pasture
that I have to haul water to when I restrict my cattle into that
pasture. I have two 65 gallon water tanks that I haul on a utility
trailer and each of them gets emptied through 5/8 inch hoses
relying on gravity feed. It takes nearly an hour for the tanks to
empty into the water troughs that I use for the cows to drink
from.

There has to be a simple pump mechanism to speed up the
process. I hope to learn from the responses you get to your
question.

Tom in TN

For you, there is...Same thing I did for avoiding tearing up muddy ground to fill tanks...
I have a power inverter, a sump pump, and a 1" hose. I can fill a 55 gallon drum 60 ft away (10ft higher) in 3 or so minutes. Portable generator would be nice for the sump pump also.
Can you get the IBC containers at a reasonable price? Can pick them up here for 25-50 bucks. They are great and hold up to 250 gallons. You can even buy automatic drinkers for them here...

Joe IRL · Jul 3, 2012

can you get a pump powered by a drill. not sure of their output but might be worth a look if you have a battery drill

Anonymous-0 · Jul 3, 2012

(quoted from post at 12:26:43 07/03/12) Maybe mount a bicycle on the wagon and remove the back wheel. Mount a pump and let the sprocket chain run the pump while she exercises. Kill two birds with one stone. She gets healthy and you get your water pumped.

Easy for you to set on that side of the pond and say that..... Good idea, but I think I'll keep it to myself awhile :roll:

Anonymous-0 · Jul 3, 2012

(quoted from post at 12:41:55 07/03/12) can you get a pump powered by a drill. not sure of their output but might be worth a look if you have a battery drill

The simple stuff just blows right over.... Have all that stuff here, she just don't like to cart stuff around.....

RalphWD45 · Jul 3, 2012

I sure wish I had to haul water to my cows. That bicycle Idea would help my wife out , just fine! That is if I lived over making the suggestion!

Errin OH · Jul 3, 2012

Couplel thoughts.

I assume you have to hual the trailer with something that has a motor, thus access to 12V. For $25 bucks or so ($20 air pump and $5 roll of duct tape) you could run air pressure in the tank to aide in pushing the water out.

N'other option would be a 12v sprayer pump. I seen up to 4gpm for under $100 bucks. If your using a tractor I think for just a little more, under $150 you can get a 20 gpm PTO roller pump.

Unruh · Jul 3, 2012

If your water tank can be made air tight enough to put pressure in the tank, it should also work to make it air tight and just put the hose in the tank with the valve open. If the tank is full to start with, not much will run out until it sucks air and lets more water out. You would have an automatic waterer - of course you have to leave the tank set out there.

El Toro · Jul 3, 2012

I have a Wayne 1/2hp PC4 Utility pump that will pump a lot of water. You can use 3/4 garden hoses for the suction and discharge. You need to prime the pump if it isn't used often. That's easily to do. I bought the pump from Home Depot. You need 120ac volts. Hal

Nate V. IA · Jul 3, 2012

Dave
Search YouTube for this pump, they used it to suck a five gallon bucket of grease from one bucket to another in short order. You will need a bigger outlet on your tank though.
Crank EZ pump

El Toro · Jul 3, 2012

Here's that Wayne pump. It will pump 350 gallons an hour. Hal

Duner Wi · Jul 3, 2012

For me gravity was my friend.
Don't know if you can believe the chart.
http://flexpvc.com/WaterFlowBasedOnPipeSize.shtml

samn40 · Jul 3, 2012

Self Priming 1/2" Siphon / Syphon Hose - Gas, Oil, Water, &
Aquarium Siphon. This syphon pump is available in 1 inch hose,
just don't stand in front of the hose!

Brad Buchanan · Jul 3, 2012

Hey Dave.

I have been irrigating my orchard until I get my well hooked up and after some experimentation I came up with the following:

2 55 gal plastic barrels on my 2 wheel trailer along with a 1000 watt 2 stroke generator that I paid about $125 for, a submersible sump pump with float switch and a 50 foot 5/8 hose.

I just put the pump, hose and power cord in one of the barrels (tops are removed) and fire up the generator.

With the hose on the level with the trailer it will empty the barrel in about 15 minutes. if you had a 2" hose on the output I imagine it would be several times faster.

I think the pump is a 1/2 horse.

And before I am savaged by the Deerman or the T-guy the generator is not grounded to the trailer, no ground rods were pounded t into the earth and there is no equipment ground.

I jes dragged the rubber hose around and when done killed the gen.

Have fun, Brad

showcrop · Jul 3, 2012

Picture a 6 inch hole with no pump, no hose, the tank would empty in seconds right? The water is being slowed by friction loss which is caused just as much by distance as size. I would do something like 3/4 by 1 inch bushing to bring up to 1 inch valve. (Look for plastic) then bush again to get up to 1 and 1/2 or so. Then you will move some serious water by gravity only. I can remember from early fire service training; 3" hose flows double what 2 1/2" does.

OldFarmTractor · Jul 3, 2012

I am going to be building a two drum wagon out of an old Craftsman lawn tractor. Somewhere on this former garden tractor I am going to mount a water pump. The plans are to take an old but working lawn mower and mount the pump from a washing machine onto the mower housing. I think an idler pulley will be incorporated to keep the belt snug.

As long as the pump is lower than the level I will typically fill the drum, it will not have any problem with cavitation.

I do have some worries about too much pressure in the system but I think I can devise a spring operated pressure relief system. Or maybe I can work with the pressure relief from a water heater.

IA Roy · Jul 3, 2012

Link to Bulkhead Tank Fitting. http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/BANJO-Bulkhead-Tank-Fitting-1MKH9

Available in 2" for sure, maybe larger. Drill hole and install in tank. Hook up a low pressure flexible sump pump discharge hose. Hang open end above tank, and lower into tub to drain/fill. A valve in the bulkhead fitting would also shut off the flow, but would not be necessary.

Anonymous-0 · Jul 3, 2012

Thanks Folks!! I'll see what works... Gotta keep momma happy :wink:

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