Anyone near Portland Tenn???

NCWayne

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Just curious if anyone on here lived close to Portland, Tenn. Reason I ask is that I am considering bidding on a horizontal band saw that is located in Portland that's listed on one of the Government auction sites. My problem only problem is that it weights nearly 1000 lbs so it's a little heavy to load by hand. If it were closer I'd simply take my service truck and pick it with the crane like I did my mill, but with the costs of fuel it would run me nearly $800 just to drive there and back. Unfortunately even if the saw went dirt cheap, heck even if they gave it away, I still couldn't afford to both buy it and then pick it up too.

According to the person in charge of the site there is a forklift on site but they don't know if it runs, and even if it does there will be no one there authorized to use it. Given the items they are selling I imagine alot of people are having to take this problem into consideration before bidding on many of the larger items.

I've thought about several ways to get the thing loaded on my own, like a tile top trailer and a winch, etc but what I think would be ideal would be to find someone in the area with the capabilities to help. That all said what I'm hoping is that someone on here will live close by and possibly know of someone in the area that has a service truck with a crane, etc, etc that would be willing to assist with the loading for a fair price. If anyone knows anything I would really apreciate having that info so I can call the guy and make sure I'll have a way to get the item loaded, because that one snag, more than anything, is the deciding factor in wether I'm even able to make a bid. Too I am open to any and all suggestions ya'll may have to get the thing off the ground and onto a trailer or into the back of my truck....without a forklift or a crane.....

My email is open if anyone has any info and would rather send it that way. Thanks for any and all assistance. Wayne
 
Pry it up enough to get a plank or plate under it. Then with a piece of pipe or shaft it would roll right along and up a ramp. A couple or three sizes and pieces would be best. Once the first one is under at the balance point, you could get a larger diameter under it, till it would either tip up enough to start onto a ramp or the trailer. With the aid of tilting the trailer by unhooking it ti could be started then just go from there.
 
(quoted from post at 20:25:44 06/21/12) Just curious if anyone on here lived close to Portland, Tenn. Reason I ask is that I am considering bidding on a horizontal band saw that is located in Portland that's listed on one of the Government auction sites. My problem only problem is that it weights nearly 1000 lbs so it's a little heavy to load by hand. If it were closer I'd simply take my service truck and pick it with the crane like I did my mill, but with the costs of fuel it would run me nearly $800 just to drive there and back. Unfortunately even if the saw went dirt cheap, heck even if they gave it away, I still couldn't afford to both buy it and then pick it up too.

According to the person in charge of the site there is a forklift on site but they don't know if it runs, and even if it does there will be no one there authorized to use it. Given the items they are selling I imagine alot of people are having to take this problem into consideration before bidding on many of the larger items.

I've thought about several ways to get the thing loaded on my own, like a tile top trailer and a winch, etc but what I think would be ideal would be to find someone in the area with the capabilities to help. That all said what I'm hoping is that someone on here will live close by and possibly know of someone in the area that has a service truck with a crane, etc, etc that would be willing to assist with the loading for a fair price. If anyone knows anything I would really apreciate having that info so I can call the guy and make sure I'll have a way to get the item loaded, because that one snag, more than anything, is the deciding factor in wether I'm even able to make a bid. Too I am open to any and all suggestions ya'll may have to get the thing off the ground and onto a trailer or into the back of my truck....without a forklift or a crane.....

My email is open if anyone has any info and would rather send it that way. Thanks for any and all assistance. Wayne

I'm near Portland. I don't know anyone with a service bed, but it looks to me like you could get a couple furniture dollies under it and roll it onto a trailer with a ramp.
 
Wayne I am 70mi southwest. I haven,t looked but I am guessing it is at the state tech school there. If that is the case I bought a bunch of used steel beams there about two years ago and they were not real help full. I carried my r 420 kubota and done my own loading even though there was a forklift there. I am busy as heck but if it comes down to having to do it I can load my lift and go get it. Don,t miss it if it is a bargain..jm. e-mail open
 
how about doing a search for a towing co local there
seems like a tow truck with boom on back either cable or hydraulic should be the ticket
probably 50-80$ for the service

good luck
Ron
 
Wayne;; You do know it is 3 phase.. do you have 3 phase or know the cost fo a convertor.. Saw looks cheap now. Might bid on that lathe above it if you know about a convertor for the three phase.
 
Yep, three phase is good. I've got one small rotary converter right now running my lathe, a drill press, and a home made pedistal grinder. Three phase is one of the things that keeps the prices down on stuff like that. Did you see that old Johnson that sold the other day? It was like an 18x24 with power down feed, etc, etc. Weighed in around 1700 lbs. It was alot closer and they had a forklift on site to load it. I lost out on it because I cheaped out and only bid $250 instead of $300 like I started to do.

Look a few months back. I got a Supermax Mill, 5 HP vertical and horizontal spindles, all of the table feeds are powered, plus some tooling, and set up with the slides for am Accurite DRO from the NC surplus site. Went in with a friend and got it for $1600 which was less than every one of the old step pulley Bridgeports were going for. Another $750 for the display for the DRO and I'm setting on a machine that, everywhere else, was selling for $7000 to $10000. Funny thing I had called the surplus site and they said they had a lift to load it but I took my service truck anyway. Got there and the largest lift they had was a small one that would do maybe 4000lbs...the mill weighted in closer to 7000. Needless to say I was glad I had my truck and my crane with me.....

That said, the government sites are great, it's dealing with the places they have the stuff setting, the problems getting stuff loaded, etc, etc. that is the only real problem I've seen with them so far.
 
Almost forgot your question about the converter. Running a lathe with a single motor you can use a static type converter for that. It'll derate the motor HP by 1/3 but it will run a single motor with no problem. Just do a search for phase converters and you'll come up with numerous sites offering them at a relatively cheap price.

If you want to spend a bit more you can step up to a rotary converter. They allow full output HP of the motor being driven. Too you can run multiple motors on them of different HP's with no problem as long as the smallest motor meets the minimum HP reauirements and you don't overload them with more than the max combined HP when using more than one motor at a time. Even then, once the converter is started, every other motor you start actually acts as a converter itself, making even more maximum HP available. I've seen a site giving more info on that but can't remember exactly where I saw it.

Now as far as the rotary converters are concerned there is more than enough info online telling you exactly what's needed to build your own rotary converter. Given the low cost of surplus three phase motors and capacitors it's way more economical to build your own if your comfortable doing so. In my case the mill I got is too big to use with my current converter. I just found a brand new 10 HP, 3 phase, TECO Westinghouse, TEFC motor that a company had special ordered for a customer and then couldn't return when the customer changed their mind. I bought the thing for a song so now all I need are a few capacitors and I'm set.

Good luck with the bidding if you decide to go for the lathe. Let me know if you get it and I'll do the same if I get the saw. Maybe we can meet up and pick up both pieces on the same day and help each other out. My email is open.
 

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