Allis Chalmers questions

JDB

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What is the proper way to shift a Power Director? Does it work like a TA on IH tractors? Which is better, TA or power director? Never been around AC tractors and just curious. Always wanted to spend some seat time on like a 185.
 
Proper way? Just push or pull the handle.

Differences from TA- my recollection is that you don't freewheel in "under" like TA- but it was a long time ago. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, Power Director has a "neutral" in the middle, and that is how you get live PTO: Depress foot clutch, engage PTO lever and put tractor in gear. Put power director in center (neutral) position, release foot clutch and PTO will engage. When PTO implement is up to speed, move power director lever forward or back, to begin forward motion of tractor.

Which is better? Its a little like comparing apples and oranges- I like independent PTO, so guess I'd prefer TA or the Oliver system. But I spent considerable time baling with an AC, and it worked fine.
 
Maybe just my age. I grew up running baler all summer with a WD45. The "hand clutch" made it possible for a youth to run smoothly.(Guys on the wagon didn't like getting thrown)!
Again my age- but I think they hit their zenith with the high-low clutch in the D series. You could easily feather it with the big handle which manually controlled the clutch. The 180 on up it is hydraulically engaged. Positive is that it's always automatically engaged with the correct pressure. Negative is, unless you're real good, or real careful, there isn't much "feathering".
 
After Bob's post above, I'll add that my experience was on a D14, and yes, you could get to be kind of an artist at smooth starts and stops. I rested my elbow on the fender, and ran the lever with my fingers- got to where I could stop to clear a slug in the baler and start up again, with the guy on the wagon not even being aware of it. 'Course, he was pretty busy stacking, because I tried to keep the baler running at capacity. Sure liked that little D14- very smooooth, like all AC's!

I can see where hydraulic engagement would take that away.
 
Owned several 185s, 190s, & 200 series always just held down on the lever and made the shift. Never had as many problems and my dad who was died in the woool ih, 856,706,1068 ect..
 

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